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[Anck Su Namun]

I think for me it's number two...right now I make slightly more than min wage and even when I get to be a full time reporter for the local paper I am at after graduation, I will make only about $10 an hour.

[Hiro]

I would rather sit through 40 hours of work a week of stuff I absolutely despise to do if it pays more...which in turn would allow me to be happier at home. Which is what I think really matters.

Because if you think about it, you spend more time at home than you do at work.

40 Hours at work a week.
128 Hours at home a week.

Now, your probably saying to yourself, yes, but you sleep there also which is a loss of entertainment time.

Well, I sleep 6 hours a night. So, 6 * 7 = 42. 128 - 42 = 86.

That is still more than the time spent at work. Now, take into account 30 mins of driving to and from work. Thats one hour a day at 5 days a week. So, 86 - 5 = 81.

Therefore, 81 Hours at home. I think its worth it.

Do the math yourself. :D

[dbax791]

Originally posted by DarkFury
Neither... I'll take High paying job that I love for $1,000. :hihi:

:stupid:

Doesn't have to be mutually exclusive. I like my job.

[Nanotech9]

i get paid "ok" for around here... and i like my job.

i would be more than happy to endure a bad job for say, a $100k salary for about 2 years... would put me in a position to do other things after that (i'e' buy a few duplexes and start renting them, etc) and basically become independent.... oh, and buy the Testarossa i want so bad.

[Freelance Superhero]

Originally posted by Corsec
Because if you think about it, you spend more time at home than you do at work.

40 Hours at work a week.
128 Hours at home a week.see, that's assuming you have/desire/plan on acquiring a typical 9-5, 40-hour work week job. the job i would love to have is not necessarily such a one, and if i'm successful at it, it's more than likely i'll be wealthy.

oh, i'm an aspiring writer...

[YanksFanRy]

Either way, spending 40 hours at any place is quite a long time. While there might be more time spent at home it is still a lot of time to be unhappy. In my opinion if I'm unhappy for 40 hours a week that's still too much unhappiness.

[Pinkgirl36]

This is *SUCH* a double edge sword for me :sad:
For the past 4 months I have been working bascially my dream job, but for very sucky pay, I've been working at an afterschool daycare...and even though it was my dream job, it didn't give me much money for my bills and just money in general. So after much dileberation, I found another job and am in the process of leaving my job and starting a "9-5" job on Monday ( which will have better pay and stuff ). Am I happy about it? right now no, because it's hard to leave kids you get attatched to, but I think in the long run, it will be better because I will end up having more money...but then I also think that "money can't buy happiness"

[DoPeY5007]

for me, a ok paying job, that you like.... ;)

[Tommy Boomfiger]

Originally posted by DarkFury

Heh... well not being able to pay my bills and have nice stuff at my house makes me quite unhappy as well... :eek:

If it's all the same... I'mma just keep goin' to work hopin' for somerthing better to come along eventually. :hihi: :stupid:
id rather take a job i dont like and when something better opens up, id jump on it

[whitak24]

ok, there are so many factors at work here.

first of all, when you say "high-paying", what exactly do you mean? and when you say "low-paying", what exactly do you mean?

in my situation, i have a job that i pretty much hate. however, i make decent money for someone who graduated from college 18 months ago (more than 2x the per capita income for my area).

would i be willing to take a $30k/year pay cut to take a job that i totally loved? probably not. i like my standard of living, and i wouldn't want to give that much up.

as corsec pointed out, your outside of work time is pretty substantial, and i wouldn't want that to be completely limited because of a very low salary.

however, i'd be perfectly happy to take a 10k/year pay cut, decrease some of my discretionary spending and saving and have a job that i enjoyed more.

so i guess what i'm saying is that it's all a matter of degree....

[WhiskeyPapa]

I left a low paying job I loved (radio) for a high paying job I "like" (software development).

I've had jobs I've hated, and can honestly say I wouldn't work at a job I hated again for any amount of money.

[Jihforce]

Somewhere in between I'd say. I don't have to love it, or hate it. But it needs to pay decent.

[Ladogaboy]

Well, I am in a financial situation where I NEED to be making more money. I wouldn't mind doing most jobs, so that isn't a problem. Really, right now, what I am looking for is a job that will pay off all of my bills so that, eventually, I can start working in a job that I would really love to do.

[oblongmelon]

I have a great job-even greater pay, a good group of co-workers, and fab hours-life is good :)

[molecularfire]

I don't expect to have to like work. IMO, that's why they call it work. :shrug:

[Anck Su Namun]

Well most of you seem to be fans of money. I am too, of course, but I don't want a job I dislike.

I am an intern at a local paper right now, and if I become a reporter there eventually I will make about $16,000 a year. My personal definition of a low paying job is $10,000-$25,000 a year. High paying would be $50,000 or more a year. That's always been my outlook, anyway.

I was going to school as a computer major online and I couldn't stand it once I got into the upper level courses. Now I have gone back to my love of writing. My parents are bugging me to eventually get a government job like my Dad, which would pay close to $50,000.

But I don't want to. Being a reporter is one of the things I have always wanted to do. According to my boss I will need 5 years of experience at the local level before getting a job at a large paper like the Union Tribune, which is my goal.

So that is my situation. I think the 5 years of poverty would be worth it in the end though. I could always join the masses of San Diegans (and Americans in general for that matter) who live beyond their means...:D

[OC]

I spent ten months at M$ making really nice money and I absolutely hated it. I hated having to get up at 4am, I hated the lusers that called for support, and I hated the completely non-responsive management team. I said a prayer of thanks when they cut short my contract. They'd have to pay me at least triple to go back there and sacrifice happiness for 1/2 of my waking hours.

-OC

[eSDee]

Originally posted by DarkFury

I wouldn't call us being "fans of money" per se... but you do have to have a standard of living.

Think of it this way... What if you had a moderate house, say around $80K to $100K, you'd have to pay around $700 to $900 per month just to cover the mortgage... not including any bills like electricity, water, FOOD, etc...

Workin' for $10K to $25K per year is basically not going to get you a house (the most basic necessity...) Pretty much $25K per year breaks down roughly to around $12 per hour which is about $2000 per month (gross) After taxes, 25% of that is taken away so now you have $1,500.

Take away all the deductions for Medicare, Insurance, and other "job related deductions" and you are lucky to see about $1,100 of that actually hit your bank account monthy.

Now by what I said before, with $1,100... you really wouldn't have enough to live in a house, therefore you'd have to rent an apartment for around say... $300 per month (that gets you into a "bad neighborhood around my parts BTW... for a good neighborhood, plan on spendin' around $500 per month and that's cheap compared to bigger cities).

You'd still have to pay for your regular bills (i.e. electricity, phone, cable, etc...) so that's gonna take away another $300 or so a month and if you have a car payment, count on that taking another $300 per month as well (for any car over $15,000 for 5 years)

So do the math right now... $1,100 (net monthly salary) - $300 (rent) - $300 (bills) - $300 (car payment) = $200 in "disposable income"... but guess what? You haven't even EATEN yet, so pretty much there goes that $200 as well in groceries.

On this budget... you'd be on welfare if you had kids to support as well. Diapers, milk, cereal, toys, etc... are EXPENSIVE!!!!

Therefore, THAT's why I was saying that sometimes you gotta work at a job you don't particularly like just to make "ends meet". Being a single person living at home is one thing... (since Mommy and Daddy foot most of the bills), but in the REAL world things don't work out quite that nicely... therefore sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do to survive.

Hopefully now you better understand where some of us are coming from now. If not, well... I at least tried to give you an example. Enjoy your youth and your job for as long as you can and marry rich I say. :hihi:

:heh: Well put DarkFury, well put :thumb:

[Anck Su Namun]

Originally posted by DarkFury

I wouldn't call us being "fans of money" per se... but you do have to have a standard of living.

Think of it this way... What if you had a moderate house, say around $80K to $100K, you'd have to pay around $700 to $900 per month just to cover the mortgage... not including any bills like electricity, water, FOOD, etc...

Workin' for $10K to $25K per year is basically not going to get you a house (the most basic necessity...) Pretty much $25K per year breaks down roughly to around $12 per hour which is about $2000 per month (gross) After taxes, 25% of that is taken away so now you have $1,500.

Take away all the deductions for Medicare, Insurance, and other "job related deductions" and you are lucky to see about $1,100 of that actually hit your bank account monthy.

Now by what I said before, with $1,100... you really wouldn't have enough to live in a house, therefore you'd have to rent an apartment for around say... $300 per month (that gets you into a "bad neighborhood around my parts BTW... for a good neighborhood, plan on spendin' around $500 per month and that's cheap compared to bigger cities).

You'd still have to pay for your regular bills (i.e. electricity, phone, cable, etc...) so that's gonna take away another $300 or so a month and if you have a car payment, count on that taking another $300 per month as well (for any car over $15,000 for 5 years)

So do the math right now... $1,100 (net monthly salary) - $300 (rent) - $300 (bills) - $300 (car payment) = $200 in "disposable income"... but guess what? You haven't even EATEN yet, so pretty much there goes that $200 as well in groceries.

On this budget... you'd be on welfare if you had kids to support as well. Diapers, milk, cereal, toys, etc... are EXPENSIVE!!!!

Therefore, THAT's why I was saying that sometimes you gotta work at a job you don't particularly like just to make "ends meet". Being a single person living at home is one thing... (since Mommy and Daddy foot most of the bills), but in the REAL world things don't work out quite that nicely... therefore sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do to survive.

Hopefully now you better understand where some of us are coming from now. If not, well... I at least tried to give you an example. Enjoy your youth and your job for as long as you can and marry rich I say. :hihi:

Whoa kids??? hahaha noooooooo not for a long time. and yes marrying rich would be nice :)
I don't want a house. It is not something I have ever wanted. I don't think I am the house type. An apartment in Mission Valley (near Padres Stadium) would suit me just fine. Still would be a pretty hefty rent each month...
I could probably get a 1 bedroom there, utilities included, for about $800 if I shop around (I have looked a little out of curiosity haha). After college graduation in a year or so. I also have a savings and no debts (not yet anyway ;))
So I think I can do it. We shall see. One step at a time...
one thing's for sure, I want to be a journalist. I have found my niche.

[whitak24]

Originally posted by Anck Su Namun
one thing's for sure, I want to be a journalist. I have found my niche.
well, that is really the most important thing. if you really think you know what you want to do, you're far better following that path instead of doing something else just for money.

if you play it smart (which it sounds like you are) and avoid taking on responsibilities like kids or large debts, then you can work a low-paying job that you love (especially if it's only for a few years, with the possibility of advancing).

also, consider whether there are other paths you can follow to do the same kind of work and reach the same goal. for example, my sister, who loves writing, worked for an industry association (the Michigan Retailers' Assn) for 3 or 4 years, writing their newsletter. she really enjoyed it, was paid decently with solid benefits, and is in the process of moving on to a position as assistant editor of a national kids magazine (published by our church). so working at your small local paper may not be the "only" route to move ahead in journalism.

anyway, good luck, whatever you decide to do. like i said, the important thing is that you're doing what you really want to do.

[SnowSurfer]

i would rather have the high paying job i hated. i have done some really bad jobs for money and yeah they suck but its still money. like when i was saving up for a car. i would just do various chores for neighbors and they would pay me...not very much. but still i perservered and am happy now. the high paying job you could get promoted to a job u like even more which would be nice. :):) and it would pay more :):) and u would be happier :):)

[OC]

Thinking about this more, I could have stomached the M$ job better if it had been close to home AND I didn't have to get up at 4am. I am just NOT a morning person, and the afternoon commute blew chunks. If the job had normal hours and was close to home (thus significantly reducing the impact the job would have on the rest of my day/life) it would have been more bearable.

-OC

[Ladogaboy]

Originally posted by DarkFury
Dark Furynomics

That is why, before I can move, I need to find a job that pays atleast $12 and is fulltime... and I guarantee that I won't be there for long! :hehehmm: