NEWS: Jets collide in mid air.

[attgig]

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/07/02/midair.crash/index.html

UEBERLINGEN, Germany (CNN) -- At least 71 people -- including about 50 children -- are feared to have been killed after a Russian jetliner and a cargo plane collided in midair over southern Germany.



DANG. :eek: :(

[Memo]

wow 50 kids. Last I read it was when it had just happened, they said that they thought not many people had died because it was mainly cargo......50 kids dead......they need to investigate this ****.

[Sir_Froggy]

jeez....50 kids...poor kids and poor parents.... :(

[Cheesypuff]

Geez la weez...you have a vast amount of x, y, and z axis to fly around in...they had to choose that same corrdinate vector to fly in at the same time...gee, if you think about it...what are the odds!!!

[NuTs62]

Originally posted by UT Memo
wow 50 kids. Last I read it was when it had just happened, they said that they thought not many people had died because it was mainly cargo......50 kids dead......they need to investigate this ****.

well, i'm guessing its obvious that the cargo plane was carrynig mainly cargo. but the russian jetliner.. eh.. still a rather high ratio of children to adults if ya ask me.. is it just me or are these airplane accidents occuring more often.. or are we just more aware of it now?

[CluelessSi]

Originally posted by NuTs62


well, i'm guessing its obvious that the cargo plane was carrynig mainly cargo. but the russian jetliner.. eh.. still a rather high ratio of children to adults if ya ask me.. is it just me or are these airplane accidents occuring more often.. or are we just more aware of it now?
:stupid:
ditto that thought

[Burzhui]

Originally posted by attgig
http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/07/02/midair.crash/index.html

UEBERLINGEN, Germany (CNN) -- At least 71 people -- including about 50 children -- are feared to have been killed after a Russian jetliner and a cargo plane collided in midair over southern Germany.



DANG. :eek: :(

mostly kids of high ranking oficcials too

[whitak24]

i saw this on yahoo this morning.....

it's sad.

[Burzhui]

Originally posted by Burzhui


mostly kids of high ranking oficcials too

cabinet of the president

[Pinkgirl36]

:(

[molecularfire]

Man... 50 kids dead and all anyone seems to care about is where to point the finger at. :(

[Burzhui]

Originally posted by molecularfire
Man... 50 kids dead and all anyone seems to care about is where to point the finger at. :(

gotta find who did what wrong in order for it not to happen again... btw it wasn't the russians they recieved a command to desend 50 second before the collision at the same time the other plane descended as well

[molecularfire]

Swiss air traffic controllers say they told the Russian pilot three times to descend, but when he eventually did it was too late. Meanwhile, a Russian airport spokesman suggested it could have been the other pilot's fault.


"If only they had flown on time, nothing would have happened,"


But Sergei Rudakov, the head of Domodedovo airport, denied that the Russian pilot -- who he described as very experienced -- caused the collision, and he suggested to RTR television that perhaps the other plane's pilot was at fault.


Anton Maag, chief of the air traffic control tower in Zurich, said the Russian plane only began to decrease altitude after a third request by a "very experienced" controller. At the same time, the DHL plane's automatic collision warning system inexplicably issued an order to descend.


You find out what's wrong by reviewing the data and examining the wreckage. This is a bunch of people trying to cover their respective rears.

[DoPeY5007]

wow...





I think more will happen only because the air is getting crowded...

[revil]

Originally posted by NuTs62
well, i'm guessing its obvious that the cargo plane was carrynig mainly cargo.
You ever consider the cargo they were carrying was kids? I mean honastly. Do you know where they come from? My parents told me the stork, but I don't believe that. I think they ordered me from russia, just like my friend ordered his wife from russia. But since it was a cargo plan, i wonder if they put the kids in crates. they would probably have to put air holes in it and some way to eat.

[whitak24]

Originally posted by DoPeY5007
I think more will happen only because the air is getting crowded...
maybe....but what is really needed is more advanced air traffic control systems. the current technology is decades old and is from a time when the skies weren't nearly as crowded.

with more advanced on-plane control systems, situations like this could be avoided before they even come close to becoming collisions.

[Burzhui]

Originally posted by revil

You ever consider the cargo they were carrying was kids? I mean honastly. Do you know where they come from? My parents told me the stork, but I don't believe that. I think they ordered me from russia, just like my friend ordered his wife from russia. But since it was a cargo plan, i wonder if they put the kids in crates. they would probably have to put air holes in it and some way to eat.

you scare me sometimes:eek:

[Grimm]

Originally posted by Burzhui


you scare me sometimes:eek:
Hmmm.... What Revil said makes perfect sense to me... :shrug:

[Burzhui]

freaks i'm surrounded by freaks

[MJordanash]

Pretty sad stuff.:(

[NuTs62]

Originally posted by whitak24

maybe....but what is really needed is more advanced air traffic control systems. the current technology is decades old and is from a time when the skies weren't nearly as crowded.

with more advanced on-plane control systems, situations like this could be avoided before they even come close to becoming collisions.

indeed.. everything should be updated.. BUT.. lets see.. where are we gonna pay for it? as it is, people don't wanna pay for fare hikes.. airline industries are losing money.. not 'nuf people flying.. etc.. and its not just the U.S. that needs to update.. because these crashes have been occuring all over the world..

[whitak24]

Originally posted by NuTs62


indeed.. everything should be updated.. BUT.. lets see.. where are we gonna pay for it? as it is, people don't wanna pay for fare hikes.. airline industries are losing money.. not 'nuf people flying.. etc.. and its not just the U.S. that needs to update.. because these crashes have been occuring all over the world..
yeah, i realize it's far-fetched, especially right now. i mean, upgrades have been stalled for years due to lack of funds, and now with the huge amount of $$ needed to improve security, the money is just NOT going to be there.

another major problem is the air traffic controllers union. since many of the proposed new technologies would actually give the pilots more on-board information and allow them to do much of the "control" themselves, the union is extremely opposed to it (they're afraid of job losses)