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Loki
07-24-2002, 10:40 PM
You little stalker you! (http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2002/06/11/stalker_tech/index.html) :heh:

Hiro
07-24-2002, 11:00 PM
That's just sad. I mean, it just plays on the boyfriends / girlfriends insecurities of not trusting who they are with.

mojo
07-25-2002, 03:41 AM
if people are so afraid of people knowing where they are, then they shouldn't go outside :hihi:

the article is obviously written to point out the negatives. however, this pda thing doesn't put thoughts in anyone's head. it just makes it faster to do stuff that people already do. it's like the whole farce of "the internet is evil" thing. the internet doesn't allow you to do anything that you couldn't do before...it just makes some stuff more convenient or faster. by the same token, if this thing "encourages stalking" by making it easier or whatever, then it sounds like it's just efficiency that's keeping someone from stalking you. ergo maybe they don't have it as together as you might think, and were prolly gonna do something anyways.

attgig
07-25-2002, 07:11 AM
YES! my girlfriend can know whenever I'm in the potty.


Actually my college - Carnegie Mellon had something VERY similar.

We used the jornada's for a class (but didn't necesarily have to be with a jornada, but program was on windows CE).
http://storage.hp-at-home.com/images/eps_products/F1816A.gif

anyways....one of the grad students wrote a program that would tell you which WAP you were connected with. so - it's not accurate to the floor, but it'll tell you a good radius of where a person was around.

but, we didn't have WAP's in the dorms, so no worries about them stalking g/f, b/f

Sir_Froggy
07-25-2002, 07:36 AM
well see it's very easy to avoid the problem with other people, just leave it at home and say you forgot to bring it :)

whitak24
07-25-2002, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by mojo
if people are so afraid of people knowing where they are, then they shouldn't go outside :hihi:

the article is obviously written to point out the negatives. however, this pda thing doesn't put thoughts in anyone's head. it just makes it faster to do stuff that people already do. it's like the whole farce of "the internet is evil" thing. the internet doesn't allow you to do anything that you couldn't do before...it just makes some stuff more convenient or faster. by the same token, if this thing "encourages stalking" by making it easier or whatever, then it sounds like it's just efficiency that's keeping someone from stalking you. ergo maybe they don't have it as together as you might think, and were prolly gonna do something anyways.
i agree to a certain extent. however, i think that technologies like this set up a dangerous ability for "the powers that be" to invade privacy.

currently, the police can only track people (this remotely) by putting a tether on them, which the person knows about and which comes at the result of a court order. (or, obviously, the police can also assign investigators to follow the person, but that is a much more man-power intensive endeavor).

anyway, if technologies like this become widespread, i think there is a real danger that the police, fbi, cia, etc will quickly use it to start spying on people whehter or not they have a warrant or a justified reason to do so.

with our privacy rights already under such severe attack as a result of the "war on terrorism", i think that additional resources like this pose an important threat to our ability to live our lives privately and free from government intrusion.

g222leav
07-25-2002, 09:58 AM
hmmm, more electronic leashes...as if cell phones and pagers weren't bad enough

molecularfire
07-26-2002, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by whitak24

i agree to a certain extent. however, i think that technologies like this set up a dangerous ability for "the powers that be" to invade privacy.

currently, the police can only track people (this remotely) by putting a tether on them, which the person knows about and which comes at the result of a court order. (or, obviously, the police can also assign investigators to follow the person, but that is a much more man-power intensive endeavor).

anyway, if technologies like this become widespread, i think there is a real danger that the police, fbi, cia, etc will quickly use it to start spying on people whehter or not they have a warrant or a justified reason to do so.

with our privacy rights already under such severe attack as a result of the "war on terrorism", i think that additional resources like this pose an important threat to our ability to live our lives privately and free from government intrusion.

Two things:
1) this is not state of the art technology. Anything that enters the public sector isn't. What makes you think they don't already have access to this technology and if they wanted to that they wouldn't be able to do this without UCSD's help (what makes you think they currently aren't using something like this).
/me looks behind back at the two guys in black suits pretending not to look at me. :shifty:
2) If big brother was gonna be spying on us... do you really think they'll tell us?

:)