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brainsmile
07-31-2002, 09:59 AM
How many of you would go under the knife or get "snipped" after you're done with kids?

Hey GAM can we add a poll to this thread
1. Snip
2. No way
3. Already done my boy

joe52985
07-31-2002, 10:04 AM
hells no! god forbid something happens to my wife and kids (freak car accident that i wasnt in or something) i wanna be able to rebuild a family, or if i get a divorce and she takes the kids i want my soldiers to march again!

whitak24
07-31-2002, 10:10 AM
heck, i'd do it just to avoid having kids in the first place.

way more reliable than birth control.

i have absolutely no personal longing to see my genes and family name passed down to another generation. i'm just fine right here.

WhiskeyPapa
07-31-2002, 10:13 AM
Now, you could either consider me the expert on this subject, or the last person you'd ever ask... but I do have a unique perspective...

Most of our friends were done having kids several years ago. Some are just starting the "empty nest" phase of their lives. When people hear that we have 9 kids (well, 8 now and one due in November) we almost always hear the same comment:

"I wish we would have had more children."

Most people get "fixed" very soon after the second kid is born. When you have two little rugrats running around causing a ruckus, that's the worst time to decide you don't want, or can't handle, anymore. We know several couples who have done something permanent, and now are trying to raise money for a reversal. For some reason, they always spill their guts to us about it...

My advise would be to wait until your youngest is at least 5 years old before you do something permanent. Also, make sure that you and your spouse are in 100% agreement about it. If you're not, it will cause marriage problems down the line.

Bottom line - this is a permanent solution to a (possibly) temporary feeling. Make sure you give it more thought than the average person.

hapoo
07-31-2002, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by joe52985
hells no! god forbid something happens to my wife and kids (freak car accident that i wasnt in or something) i wanna be able to rebuild a family, or if i get a divorce and she takes the kids i want my soldiers to march again!


its reversable

WhiskeyPapa
07-31-2002, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by hapoo
its reversable
That's VERY expensive and has a less than 75% success rate.

brainsmile
07-31-2002, 11:21 AM
is this from personal experience?:bigmouth:

Hiro
07-31-2002, 11:24 AM
personally, i would get snipped after the second or third kid. it costs less than the wife to get her tubes tied, its reversable (with a chance of it not working, its still worth it), less recovery time.

jase71
07-31-2002, 11:47 AM
I suppose it would put an end to my fantasy of being the last man alive, and having to help repopulate a planet full of women...

But aside from that, I'd get snipped if I was sure my child producing days were behind me. There's the chance I might regret it, but there's a pretty good chance I might regret NOT doing it too...

ChahSiuBow
07-31-2002, 11:56 AM
What's the point of snipping? It's a waste of money, and you gotta leave it for contigencies. :angel:

Doesn't it affect your hormonal balance too? Like...start getting man boobies or something? lol :sad: :cry:

brainsmile
07-31-2002, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by ChahSiuBow
What's the point of snipping? It's a waste of money, and you gotta leave it for contigencies. :angel:

Doesn't it affect your hormonal balance too? Like...start getting man boobies or something? lol :sad: :cry: no... dude you're not chopping them off... just snipping the line

ChahSiuBow
07-31-2002, 12:20 PM
hmm.... oh yeah.

Merlin
07-31-2002, 12:38 PM
Ain't no sharp object goin anywheres near my junk. End of story. :|

DoPeY5007
07-31-2002, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by DarkFury
Put some in a bottle... snip it, then enjoy... :hihi: :stupid:



that is what I want to do later!

jase71
07-31-2002, 01:19 PM
Never mind... it's just too disgusting...

Pinkgirl36
07-31-2002, 02:07 PM
well considering I never really want to have kids, I would totally consider it.....

I know a couple though, that after their 3rd child was born the dad got it done....then in January of this year their oldest daughher ( she was 16 ) died.

hang10wannabe
07-31-2002, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by Pinkgirl36
well considering I never really want to have kids, I would totally consider it.....

I know a couple though, that after their 3rd child was born the dad got it done....then in January of this year their oldest daughher ( she was 16 ) died.

:neartears

i hate it when stuff like that happens...

whitak24
07-31-2002, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by jase71
I suppose it would put an end to my fantasy of being the last man alive, and having to help repopulate a planet full of women...
well.....if you're going to imagine that kind of fantasy coming true, just add a piece to it: you magically reattach so that you can help humanity survive in this dire time of need. both pieces are about as realistic :P

j/k. that is a pretty funny/desirable idea. i wouldn't mind if it happened to me :hihi:

Kim
07-31-2002, 03:09 PM
We are going to do this. We are both nearly certain that we are done having children, but we want to wait a few more years to make sure.

hang10wannabe
07-31-2002, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by whitak24

well.....if you're going to imagine that kind of fantasy coming true, just add a piece to it: you magically reattach so that you can help humanity survive in this dire time of need. both pieces are about as realistic :P

j/k. that is a pretty funny/desirable idea. i wouldn't mind if it happened to me :hihi:

fooshnick... that would be cool... it would be it would be :heh:

johnnymk
07-31-2002, 10:35 PM
I never had the desire to have kids. As a matter of fact, I avoided women who wanted them. I have quite a few friends and relatives who feel the same way.

molecularfire
08-01-2002, 10:28 AM
With my sex life... snipping it would be a complete waste of time and money for me. :shrug:

hapoo
08-01-2002, 10:33 AM
Just out of curiousity... What are your reasons for not wanting a child? And i don't mean the ones who don't want one now, i mean the people who say they NEVER want one.

Hiro
08-01-2002, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by Pinkgirl36
well considering I never really want to have kids, I would totally consider it.....

I know a couple though, that after their 3rd child was born the dad got it done....then in January of this year their oldest daughher ( she was 16 ) died.
that sucks. it happens all to often these days. :(

jujubees
08-01-2002, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by hapoo
Just out of curiousity... What are your reasons for not wanting a child? And i don't mean the ones who don't want one now, i mean the people who say they NEVER want one. The bf and I are still undecided on this issue.

We think we'll be good parents, and eventually want some of our own (ideally 2), but the thought of being responsible for the well-being of another human being ... it's intimidating, to say the least.

I also look at the state of the world and wonder if our kids will thank us for bringing them into this existence ...

*sigh*

topane
08-01-2002, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by hapoo
Just out of curiousity... What are your reasons for not wanting a child? And i don't mean the ones who don't want one now, i mean the people who say they NEVER want one. I'm with juju on this one -- the world is a crappy place, why would I want to bring a child into it? Besides, I'm not entirely confident in my ability to raise a human being. I'll stick with retrievers.

molecularfire
08-01-2002, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by hapoo
Just out of curiousity... What are your reasons for not wanting a child? And i don't mean the ones who don't want one now, i mean the people who say they NEVER want one.

I've been posting here for a while. You guys basically know what kind of a person I am, and the kinds of things that I believe in. Do any of you really want a kid to be raised that way? :P

sbp
08-01-2002, 11:58 AM
At any time in history the world could be considered a crappy place.

Merlin
08-01-2002, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by hapoo
Just out of curiousity... What are your reasons for not wanting a child? And i don't mean the ones who don't want one now, i mean the people who say they NEVER want one.

1. They are expensive
2. They make too much noise
3. They require supervision which cuts into my quality time
4. They are expensive
5. You put them down and go out. When you come home they are never where you left them.
6. They smell funny
7. They are expensive
8. I don't want anyone touching my stuff
9. You can't just take off for a weekend somewhere without making arrangements
10. Parents night
11. And they cost too damn much!

whitak24
08-01-2002, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by Merlin


1. They are expensive
2. They make too much noise
3. They require supervision which cuts into my quality time
4. They are expensive
5. You put them down and go out. When you come home they are never where you left them.
6. They smell funny
7. They are expensive
8. I don't want anyone touching my stuff
9. You can't just take off for a weekend somewhere without making arrangements
10. Parents night
11. And they cost too damn much!
ok, part of it, as merlin expressed here, is the convenience factor.

but more than that, and in line with what topane said, it frightens me to think of being responsible for raising a child. i mean, if you screw up, you're affecting the life of another human being. and i don't know that i'm ever going to come to a point in my life where i'm comfortable with that idea.

hapoo
08-01-2002, 04:07 PM
I love kids, but i don't know what kind of parent i could be even though people say i would make a great dad. Obviously none of our parents knew what the hell they were doing when they had their first kid, and i'd say for the most part they did an OK job. As far as the responsability goes... well hey, some of you got pets right? especially dogs. Sure a human isn't a dog, but its still a responsability and the older they grow the easier it gets, providing you actually did some parenting to begin with. I think its very rewarding. As an intresting side note, studies actually show that as people become more successful, they have fewer kids.


But all that aside... I want someone to drive me back and forth from the nursing home and the hospital when i'm an old fart :D

topane
08-01-2002, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by hapoo
But all that aside... I want someone to drive me back and forth from the nursing home and the hospital when i'm an old fart :D I know it's incredibly selfish, but I've actually thought about that. When my father-in-law was dying, his wife, all his kids, and a couple of us in-laws were right there holding his hand until he died. I hate the thought of being on my deathbed with no one with me. Not a good reason to have kids, though.

johnnymk
08-01-2002, 04:24 PM
I guess if you were brought up in a stable happy home, getting married and having kids is something to look forward to. My parent's marriage was a disaster, so that's what I relate to.
So, I basically agree with all of the reasons that whitak gave, plus I never felt that I had to prove anything by having kids.

hapoo
08-01-2002, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by johnnymk
I guess if you were brought up in a stable happy home, getting married and having kids is something to look forward to. My parent's marriage was a disaster, so that's what I relate to.




That make a lot of sense... Guess i'm lucky in that respect.

OC
08-01-2002, 05:56 PM
I'm considering "storage" and getting snipped.

-OC

brain
08-01-2002, 06:51 PM
Who needs to get snipped? I'm sure the cell phone radiation has already "taken care of" the boys. Well, at least this is probably true in my case.

Memo
08-01-2002, 07:06 PM
I'd never get snipped. I want kids. Probably 2 and after that all you have to do is be responsible about sex man. By the time i'm that old I won't care all that much about sex anyways. Plus, i'll always abort if I don't want it.

OC
08-01-2002, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by UT Memo
Plus, i'll always abort if I don't want it. Well, that part isn't up to you.

-OC

chrissy
08-01-2002, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by topane
I'm with juju on this one -- the world is a crappy place, why would I want to bring a child into it? Besides, I'm not entirely confident in my ability to raise a human being. I'll stick with retrievers.

Yeah, the world is a crappy place. BUT, if we all raise our kids right, or work on raising our kids right, the world has to get better, right?

It's sad that people get down about the world being a bad place when they do nothing about it to help make it better (general statement).

Kim
08-02-2002, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by UT Memo
I'd never get snipped. I want kids. Probably 2 and after that all you have to do is be responsible about sex man. By the time i'm that old I won't care all that much about sex anyways. Plus, i'll always abort if I don't want it.

You make it all seem so easy. I wonder if your wife will have as easy a time aborting as you?

WhiskeyPapa
08-02-2002, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by chrissy
It's sad that people get down about the world being a bad place when they do nothing about it to help make it better (general statement).
:stupid:

That is precicely the reason we have so many kids. People are a resource, not a liability.