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latingirl
08-05-2002, 08:39 PM
...and timely for me esp with my recent promo. I was gettin a bit discouraged, but kept encouraging myself that God was going to give me what He promised me. I recieved this today...

SEEDS OF PROMISE
By Dawn Jones

Paging through a botanical magazine last winter, I found myself marveling at the beautiful flowering trees and exotic plants pictured inside. In a moment of sheer inspiration, I decided it would be awesome to have more in my yard than one scruffy pine tree surrounded by a few faded wood chips. Whether impetus or impetuous, this surge of enthusiasm compelled me to order the "Jasmine flowering tree" so exquisitely displayed on page 5.

I was jazzed. In fact, I couldn't wait to get my plant.

Weeks after I had placed the order, however, my excitement was beginning to wane. "Where's my tree?" I wondered. "Spring will be over next week, and I still don't have an award-winning landscape!"

Finally, a package from California arrived. Staring blankly at the way-too-small parcel, I decided it must be the invoice or perhaps the all-important stakes needed to support my new tree. As I opened the little brown box, I simultaneously surveyed the area around me, looking to see where the rest of my delivery was hiding.

After carefully unveiling the mysterious arrival, I stared motionless into the shallow carton. Finally, in disbelief and agitation, I drew out a package of tiny, unimpressive seeds.

My initial excitement quickly dissipated. "You've got to be kidding me," I moaned. "They actually expect me to plant these dead flakes?" I simply could not imagine that I would have to WORK to obtain this tree.

Suddenly I came to a sobering realization: That's how many people would like to go through life--wanting results without doing the work, expecting a harvest without planting the seeds. Unfortunately in God's kingdom it doesn't work that way. In fact, most of what God accomplishes on Earth today starts in seed form.

When God wanted to send a deliverer to save mankind, He sent a seed and placed it in a plain human package. No wonder those who had so long awaited the coming of the Messiah were less than impressed to see an ordinary baby instead of a king.

And what about the teachings of this infant grown to full stature? He taught that the kingdom of God was like a seed which, when planted, would grow gradually: "first the blade, then the head, then the mature grain in the head" (Mark 4:28, NASB).

In other words, Jesus told us that the dealings of God would almost always involve a maturing process. God gives us seedlings of promise that must be nurtured and cared for until they can stand tall like an oak tree.

So many times we get discouraged when we don't see quick results from our labors. We may even become so frustrated that we are tempted to stop and quit. But God's Word helps us remember this principle: The plantings of the Lord begin in seed form.

In Old Testament times when Zerubbabel was rebuilding the temple, people laughed and scoffed as they compared the fledgling work to the majesty of the original built by Solomon. But through a messenger the Lord sent reassurance: "Do not despise these small beginnings, for the Lord rejoices to see the work begin" (Zech. 4:10, NLT).

Right now you may have a beautiful picture in your heart of what you long for. You may even have dared to ask God for great things and have sensed His promise to you of success.

But when you opened your hands to receive, all you found was seeds-small, unimpressive conceptions. Don't be discouraged! Remember that seeds contain life and have within them the very essence of your promise. If you plant them in good soil and invest yourself in the nurture and development of them, they will grow and bloom forth with fruit.

Today, hear the Holy Spirit whisper to you, "Do not despise the day of small beginnings, for I delight to see the work begin." Plant your faith, my friend, and watch and see what God will do.

PRAYER POWER
Week of 8-5-02

Thank the Lord this week that each day is an opportunity to sow and nurture seeds of faith for the fulfillment of your dreams. Continue to pray for the salvation of lost souls and for God's kingdom to be established throughout the world. As you pray for the peace of Jerusalem and surrounding nations, ask for godly wisdom for those who make decisions affecting the entire world. Gal 6:7-9; 2 Cor.15:58

oblongmelon
08-05-2002, 09:13 PM
what is with you and all these religious based posts??? You're not from YDF are you?:hmm:

latingirl
08-05-2002, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by oblongmelon
what is with you and all these religious based posts??? You're not from YDF are you?:hmm:

Okay, what's YDF??

And....AND???? You REALLLY don't have to read em if you don't want to... (I need a smilie that can roll her neck several times and roll her eyes real hard to the left).

One day, when you're bein drug through the mud, you're going to think back on one of these posts and smile like this. :D

oblongmelon
08-05-2002, 09:29 PM
probably not... and you're right-I don't have to read them, but this is the off topic forum and thus, I try to see what everyone is off-topic-ing about. And like I said-what is it with you and all these religious posts? HEY we all have our own beliefs here..I do not condemn anyone's view on religion/god/etc..but enough already.Gawd.:rolleyes:..I loved that part about ONE DAY WHEN I'M BEING DRAGGED through the mud...hahahah I was around before mud was even invented!

chrissy
08-05-2002, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by oblongmelon
what is with you and all these religious based posts??? You're not from YDF are you?:hmm:

:P

I was thinking the same thing. But I then remembered a lot of those yahoos were from the east coast and decided that it was prob not true.

BUT, I have been proved wrong before :)

oblongmelon
08-05-2002, 09:35 PM
I don't know chrissy, they come from all over anymore..I would bet some hard cold cash on this one..hahaha it's just very very strange that the moment that the YDF religious zealot posts were approached, G|A has turned into a new found mecca for prayer. Maybe Apex should have a religious forum..if I want to be preached to/at I'll go to church. This stinks to high heaven of a YDF PRAYER THREAD.

attgig
08-05-2002, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by oblongmelon
I don't know chrissy, they come from all over anymore..I would bet some hard cold cash on this one..hahaha it's just very very strange that the moment that the YDF religious zealot posts were approached, G|A has turned into a new found mecca for prayer. Maybe Apex should have a religious forum..if I want to be preached to/at I'll go to church. This stinks to high heaven of a YDF PRAYER THREAD.


AHH!~ took me a while to remember what YDF was...

latin, and for any of you REALLY real newbies here:
http://www.gotapex.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47119&highlight=YDF

if you're not quite getting something, most of the time, it's cause people are weird here :P ....but every now and then, the search helps.

hang10wannabe
08-05-2002, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by latingirl


Okay, what's YDF??

And....AND???? You REALLLY don't have to read em if you don't want to... (I need a smilie that can roll her neck several times and roll her eyes real hard to the left).

One day, when you're bein drug through the mud, you're going to think back on one of these posts and smile like this. :D

i agree with ya on this... i think that if people dont like it... dont read it... second ... if u do read it... dont complain... common now... i dont mind religious posts... so there... my two cents :bandit:

:heh:

oblongmelon
08-05-2002, 09:54 PM
and you are 'WHO' exactly? :yawn:

hang10wannabe
08-05-2002, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by oblongmelon
and you are 'WHO' exactly? :yawn:

I AM YOUR FATHER!... nah... fooshnick... im obviously a G|A member.. *sheesh* :rolleyes:

latingirl
08-05-2002, 09:59 PM
Oh, this YDF thing was submitted by the same oblong fool who doesn't have to read my posts.

oblongmelon
08-05-2002, 10:00 PM
:duh: :rolleyes:

hang10wannabe
08-05-2002, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by DarkFury
Hoo boy.. this is goin' from "bad to UGLY" fast. :eek:




(Buckle your seatbelts kids... it's gonna be a bumpy ride!)

LOL! totally :heh:

Windsor
08-05-2002, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by DarkFury
Hoo boy.. this is goin' from "bad to UGLY" fast. :eek:




(Buckle your seatbelts kids... it's gonna be a bumpy ride!)


ooh yeeah...might be better to just jump ship right now before the whiplash and broken bones come

oblongmelon
08-05-2002, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by DarkFury
Hoo boy.. this is goin' from "bad to UGLY" fast. :eek:




(Buckle your seatbelts kids... it's gonna be a bumpy ride!)



DF, for someone who is sooo very OBVIOUSLY DEVOUT..she is quick to call names eh? I don't think the lord would like that very much..name calling and all...does anyone have a portable confessional booth they can rent out cheap? You know..for soul saving and all?

latingirl
08-05-2002, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by oblongmelon


DF, for someone who is sooo very OBVIOUSLY DEVOUT..she is quick to call names eh? I don't think the lord would like that very much..name calling and all...does anyone have a portable confessional booth they can rent out cheap? You know..for soul saving and all?

If He was posting, I'm sure he'd call you a fool, too. Actually, the Lord called many a folk fools in His time...and they way you've been spoutin off, I know you'd be one of em...

oblongmelon
08-05-2002, 10:12 PM
hey I'm an ARSEBAG! well that's what I was also called tonight by that Hang10character-(who seems to know this latin girl quite well) must be the tag team from YDF..so now that I'm an arsebag AND a fool.and it can be concluded that these two yokems are trolling for a bad scene...whats new with you DF?

sbp
08-05-2002, 10:12 PM
the thread is fine.

Pinkgirl36
08-05-2002, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by DarkFury
Hoo boy.. this is goin' from "bad to UGLY" fast. :eek:
:stupid:

latingirl
08-05-2002, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by oblongmelon
hey I'm an ARSEBAG! well that's what I was also called tonight by that Hang10character-(who seems to know this latin girl quite well) must be the tag team from YDF..so now that I'm an arsebag AND a fool.and it can be concluded that these two yokems are trolling for a bad scene...whats new with you DF?

DF says "my name is bennet..."

oblongmelon
08-05-2002, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by latingirl


If He was posting, I'm sure he'd call you a fool, too. Actually, the Lord called many a folk fools in His time...and they way you've been spoutin off, I know you'd be one of em...
wow..how very witty of you. Yeh that's it.

oblongmelon
08-05-2002, 10:17 PM
oh yeh, and back to my ORIGINAL POST..what is with you and all these religious threads? Seems to me like you don't want to answer that question...hmmmm?

latingirl
08-05-2002, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by oblongmelon
hey I'm an ARSEBAG! well that's what I was also called tonight by that Hang10character-(who seems to know this latin girl quite well) must be the tag team from YDF..so now that I'm an arsebag AND a fool.and it can be concluded that these two yokems are trolling for a bad scene...whats new with you DF?

You can settle down now.

Just don't read my posts and we will all be happy. :o

Cantacuzene
08-05-2002, 10:20 PM
I'm in the camp that agrees that this is unnecesary. These 'devotionals' should be posted in the referrals forum it seems to me. I cant post a devotional about how much I love Velvetta Shells and Cheese here.

oblongmelon
08-05-2002, 10:20 PM
lalalallalalaaaaa...still not answering the question.lalalaaaaa

oblongmelon
08-05-2002, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by Cantacuzene
I'm in the camp that agrees that this is unnecesary. These 'devotionals' should be posted in the referrals forum it seems to me. I cant post a devotional about how much I love Velvetta Shells and Cheese here.
EXACTLY Canta, you read my mind..

latingirl
08-05-2002, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by oblongmelon
lalalallalalaaaaa...still not answering the question.lalalaaaaa

Oh, man. And you just gonna STAY a fool, too.

oblongmelon
08-05-2002, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by DarkFury

Nuttin' much... same ol' same ol'...



Tryin' to stay out of the "heat"... :shifty:

How's the boy? I wanna pinch his cheeks.

Pinkgirl36
08-05-2002, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by Cantacuzene
I'm in the camp that agrees that this is unnecesary. These 'devotionals' should be posted in the referrals forum it seems to me. :stupid:

latingirl
08-05-2002, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by Cantacuzene
I'm in the camp that agrees that this is unnecesary. These 'devotionals' should be posted in the referrals forum it seems to me. I cant post a devotional about how much I love Velvetta Shells and Cheese here.

Didn't I just read a "devotional" to..."the Asian people and bodyhair..."????

oblongmelon
08-05-2002, 10:29 PM
http://www.elswhere.net/Preist.jpg

attgig
08-05-2002, 10:31 PM
I can start taking bets on how soon GAM stops this....

do I hear 10 minutes?
20 minutes?

Pinkgirl36
08-05-2002, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by attgig
I can start taking bets on how soon GAM stops this....

do I hear 10 minutes?
20 minutes?

15 right here :P :cool:

oblongmelon
08-05-2002, 10:35 PM
there is really nothing to stop..a simple answer to the question would be sufficient.

Got Apex Moderator
08-05-2002, 10:38 PM
chill out now!

brainsmile
08-05-2002, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by hang10wannabe


i agree with ya on this... i think that if people dont like it... dont read it... second ... if u do read it... dont complain... common now... i dont mind religious posts... so there... my two cents :bandit:

:heh: way to defend your woman. :P

brainsmile
08-05-2002, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by attgig
I can start taking bets on how soon GAM stops this....

do I hear 10 minutes?
20 minutes? I dunno when the hammer is gonna fall but I'm ducking and running now

brainsmile
08-05-2002, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by Got Apex Moderator
chill out now!

I'm a regular church attender and I think most peeps know where I stand on most issues but I gotta agree :stupid:

Freelance Superhero
08-05-2002, 11:38 PM
okay i said i was gonna stay outta these threads, but i'm sorry, that troll picture made me laugh out loud...:heh:

eSDee
08-05-2002, 11:52 PM
Hmm very interesting. I agree that overdoing it on any kind of thread it not very productive. For instance too many murder stories suck, too many sports thread suck, and too many religious threads suck. I mean, it's just like when some who will remain nameless, would post like 10 jokes in a row in separate threads. Keep it all in one thread if it's going to be the same thing over and over.

At the same time though I believe that whenever someone new comes to the boards and discover how diverse our group is, they tend overpost and monopolize the boards for a while. But they usually settle down after a while. So will latingirl, I imagine.

I think the thing we always end up coming back to is respecting eachother's viewpoints. Just remember that not all are religious, not all are sports fans, and not everyone will agree with you. But if you present your opinions to these boards in a respectful way, even if no one agrees with you it will atleast allow people to see your perspective, without discounting it immediately.

brainsmile
08-06-2002, 12:01 AM
Very wise observations eSDeeLoco
















Originally posted by eSDeeLoco
Just remember that not all are religious, not all are sports fans, and not everyone will agree with you. http://www.theforumisdown.com/uploadfiles/0702/arnoldkdl.jpg
WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT WILLIS???

sorry that's my best photoshop effort which is none.

NuTs62
08-06-2002, 01:08 AM
Originally posted by sbp
the thread is fine.

:stupid:

dont wish to step on anyones toes.

before you enter the thread, there is the topic heading, and in most cases, it is some indication of what will be in the thread itself. I think its fairly simple to skip over the threads that you don't wish to read, I do that all the time. :) That way, people can post as they please, at GAM's discretion of course, and people reading it have themselves to blame if they enter a thread that was accurately identified in the subject heading.


as Rodney King stated, "Can't we all just get along?"

Jihforce
08-06-2002, 01:30 AM
Originally posted by oblongmelon
oh yeh, and back to my ORIGINAL POST..what is with you and all these religious threads? Seems to me like you don't want to answer that question...hmmmm?

She doesn't answer a alot of questions actually. Shouldn't come as a surprise.

It seems that whenever LG posts about religion, there's bound to be controversy. :heh:

Anyway, I'm having a lot of fun with this whole "religious ping pong" match. Its interesting to see Christians going at it with each other...And I'm going to hell for being Buddhist? LOL. :heh: Carry On.

Hmmm gosh, its so late...good thing I'm on vacation :D

hang10wannabe
08-06-2002, 01:58 AM
Originally posted by Jihforce


She doesn't answer a alot of questions actually. Shouldn't come as a surprise.

It seems that whenever LG posts about religion, there's bound to be controversy. :heh:

Anyway, I'm having a lot of fun with this whole "religious ping pong" match. Its interesting to see Christians going at it with each other...And I'm going to hell for being Buddhist? LOL. :heh: Carry On.

Hmmm gosh, its so late...good thing I'm on vacation :D

wll that question answering could be due to the fact that we do have lives other than G|A and are not always on call to respond ASAP (not knockin ya Jihforce) and secondly... its Hang10WANNABE oblong... thirdly... altering the subject so we dont get into trouble... did u guys see that clip (or on tv when it was running) where Randy Johnson (pitcher for diamondbacks MLB) hit that bird with a fastball... i mean... MY GOD!!!! poor birdy... :angel:

CluelessSi
08-06-2002, 05:57 AM
Originally posted by latingirl


Okay, what's YDF??

And....AND???? You REALLLY don't have to read em if you don't want to... (I need a smilie that can roll her neck several times and roll her eyes real hard to the left).

One day, when you're bein drug through the mud, you're going to think back on one of these posts and smile like this. :D

=)
hey where u get this devotional? I usually read ODB.. those are good...

CluelessSi
08-06-2002, 05:59 AM
Originally posted by oblongmelon
probably not... and you're right-I don't have to read them, but this is the off topic forum and thus, I try to see what everyone is off-topic-ing about. And like I said-what is it with you and all these religious posts? HEY we all have our own beliefs here..I do not condemn anyone's view on religion/god/etc..but enough already.Gawd.:rolleyes:..I loved that part about ONE DAY WHEN I'M BEING DRAGGED through the mud...hahahah I was around before mud was even invented!
hmm.. it is quite funnie though, we talk about all type of things, i don't see a problem with discussiong religion i mean as LG has mentioned before .. what if ppl took offense or somethign when ppl mention sex or drunkeness? it is kinda a religion or belief in itself .. can anyhone truely be away from someone elses opinion, thoughts, belief if posting freely?

CluelessSi
08-06-2002, 06:00 AM
Originally posted by oblongmelon
I don't know chrissy, they come from all over anymore..I would bet some hard cold cash on this one..hahaha it's just very very strange that the moment that the YDF religious zealot posts were approached, G|A has turned into a new found mecca for prayer. Maybe Apex should have a religious forum..if I want to be preached to/at I'll go to church. This stinks to high heaven of a YDF PRAYER THREAD. :sure:

CluelessSi
08-06-2002, 06:05 AM
Originally posted by oblongmelon
oh yeh, and back to my ORIGINAL POST..what is with you and all these religious threads? Seems to me like you don't want to answer that question...hmmmm?
it's just part of life, are we just suppose to not post them at all? if we can't express our thoughts in a free off-topic board then where can we? I noticed the sudden surge of religious posts too but I don't think much of it. it is just as good as any other thread.

CluelessSi
08-06-2002, 06:06 AM
Originally posted by Cantacuzene
I'm in the camp that agrees that this is unnecesary. These 'devotionals' should be posted in the referrals forum it seems to me. I cant post a devotional about how much I love Velvetta Shells and Cheese here. y not? off-topic threads have a lot of weird and useless stuff .. so what, that is the fun of an off-topic thread! if u like u can post anything, it is up to the moderator to move it lock it or change it!

I had an agrguement with some posters on my work board where someone put in satan worshipping as a thread to directly attack someone who posted about bible studies! I was not pissed that he posted a tpoic like that, i was pissed casue 1) he did it to attack the other guy directly and mock him 2) because he can't even back up what he said, like meeting and stuff... I am open to it if they really had one, but they ended up not really serious about meeting nor have any information backing it up, I had been in a Pagan society before so them doing that with nothign to back up was just unacceptable (personal attack and company saw that so banned that post)

attgig
08-06-2002, 06:16 AM
dang clueless, are you just trying to re-ignite the fire or something???


anyways.... 7 minutes response time for GAM - that's awesome....
better than most fire departments in the US!!!

Tommy Boomfiger
08-06-2002, 06:30 AM
Originally posted by latingirl


If He was posting, I'm sure he'd call you a fool, too. Actually, the Lord called many a folk fools in His time...and they way you've been spoutin off, I know you'd be one of em... wow, you must be special, you know what God is thinking. :rolleyes:


maybe it would be better if you noted in your titles of the thread that it is a religious post. neither "One Opinion" nor "Devotional - long but awesome nonetheless..." gave me the impression that it was a religious post, and had i known i probably would not have read it. tricking someone into reading your preach isnt, IMO, honest or respectful of your gospel.

Tommy Boomfiger
08-06-2002, 06:38 AM
Originally posted by CluelessSi
yif u like u can post anything, it is up to the moderator to move it lock it or change it! no, its not up to the mods to move or lock or change something, its up to the poster to responsibly post in the proper forum. this is a 24 hour 365 day forum, and the mods have other things to do other than be on here 100% of the time.

attgig
08-06-2002, 06:38 AM
I guess all the morning people felt they missed the action last night and need to get this thread all hostile again :(

jase71
08-06-2002, 06:41 AM
Originally posted by CluelessSi

it's just part of life, are we just suppose to not post them at all? if we can't express our thoughts in a free off-topic board then where can we? I noticed the sudden surge of religious posts too but I don't think much of it. it is just as good as any other thread.


We lambaste Ribitch for his frequent vocal support of Apples. He's not afraid to insert his Apple promotion in any thread where it even remotely applies. And I could be accused of doing the same for Linux. That irritates a lot of people. But what we're seeing now is exactly the same situation, but with religious ideals being promoted instead. And to those who subscribe to a different system of belief, it can be annoying.

I try very hard to take everyone's point of view into account. I have no one on my ignore list. I can politely disagree with almost anyone, and still value their opinion. But that's an extremely difficult task when it comes to religion. Ration and logic go completely out the window when someone tells you you're going to hell, and they're going to heaven.

Religion is an issue where most people have little or no tolerance for disagreement. Recent threads have clearly shown that.
G|A is a tightly knit community, but religion is one issue, perhaps the only issue, that could tear us apart. So for the sake of G|A, let's all take a step back and think about what we post, before we post it.

If you're religious, preach with your actions, instead of with your words. Lead by example, rather than by fire and brimstone. One shoulder to lean on is worth more than a million "Praise Jesus!" shouts. You'll accomplish more, and alienate fewer people.

If you're not religious (like me), let's leave the religious threads alone. I don't spend much time in churches, and I'll treat overtly religious threads the same way. If I'm not there to worship, I'll stay out, and leave it to the folk who want to be there.

We can all co-exist, religious and not, if we respect each other's rights, both to be able to speak our mind, and not to have to listen.

CluelessSi
08-06-2002, 06:54 AM
Originally posted by attgig
dang clueless, are you just trying to re-ignite the fire or something???


anyways.... 7 minutes response time for GAM - that's awesome....
better than most fire departments in the US!!!
nah just replying as i read the posts =P i try to read the whole thing first but getting way too long =P

CluelessSi
08-06-2002, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by Tommy Boomfiger
wow, you must be special, you know what God is thinking. :rolleyes:


maybe it would be better if you noted in your titles of the thread that it is a religious post. neither "One Opinion" nor "Devotional - long but awesome nonetheless..." gave me the impression that it was a religious post, and had i known i probably would not have read it. tricking someone into reading your preach isnt, IMO, honest or respectful of your gospel.
:heh:

CluelessSi
08-06-2002, 06:56 AM
Originally posted by Tommy Boomfiger
no, its not up to the mods to move or lock or change something, its up to the poster to responsibly post in the proper forum. this is a 24 hour 365 day forum, and the mods have other things to do other than be on here 100% of the time.
hmmm how does this contitue as referral while other posts don't?

CluelessSi
08-06-2002, 07:00 AM
Originally posted by jase71



We lambaste Ribitch for his frequent vocal support of Apples. He's not afraid to insert his Apple promotion in any thread where it even remotely applies. And I could be accused of doing the same for Linux. That irritates a lot of people. But what we're seeing now is exactly the same situation, but with religious ideals being promoted instead. And to those who subscribe to a different system of belief, it can be annoying.

I try very hard to take everyone's point of view into account. I have no one on my ignore list. I can politely disagree with almost anyone, and still value their opinion. But that's an extremely difficult task when it comes to religion. Ration and logic go completely out the window when someone tells you you're going to hell, and they're going to heaven.

Religion is an issue where most people have little or no tolerance for disagreement. Recent threads have clearly shown that.
G|A is a tightly knit community, but religion is one issue, perhaps the only issue, that could tear us apart. So for the sake of G|A, let's all take a step back and think about what we post, before we post it.

If you're religious, preach with your actions, instead of with your words. Lead by example, rather than by fire and brimstone. One shoulder to lean on is worth more than a million "Praise Jesus!" shouts. You'll accomplish more, and alienate fewer people.

If you're not religious (like me), let's leave the religious threads alone. I don't spend much time in churches, and I'll treat overtly religious threads the same way. If I'm not there to worship, I'll stay out, and leave it to the folk who want to be there.

We can all co-exist, religious and not, if we respect each other's rights, both to be able to speak our mind, and not to have to listen.

well said, i don't usually talk much about religion directly, usually just in my words and actions it should show, at least I hope it does :shrug: only talk about it in threads like these are when something very inspiring hits =P haha as I said in some other post, don't shoot the poor pamplet distributer on the street, just don't take the pamphlet or throw it away....

Jenny
08-06-2002, 08:37 AM
Imma just gonna say one thing:

To me, the word Devotional is a religious word. Maybe it is just the churches I grew up in and am attending now. I don't know. So I could figure out automatically that this was a thread about a Devotional LG had at church. It seemed like a simple deduction right away.

I'm with LG, Clueless, Nuts & gigger. This is an off topic forum, her thread titles were clear enough. If you don't like it, don't read it. If you do get confused about the thread title and click on it, then get into it and find out it isn't something you want to hear, click the Backspace key. It's that simple and you've taken about 3 seconds out of your day. Not something to get so upset about.

:)

attgig
08-06-2002, 08:50 AM
Originally posted by Jenny
I'm with LG, Clueless, Nuts & gigger.:)

woah there...
I was just standing on the sidelines and being a commentator - never took sides in this thread....

i've learned my lesson! :P

(well not really lesson - but yeah...decided not to take sides on this one)

WhiskeyPapa
08-06-2002, 09:06 AM
Maybe the thread titles need to be more descriptive (I'd like that, even if they're not religious!) I regularly skip threads if the titles indicate something I don't want to read about.

Here are some examples of threads I don't read:

naughty issue with mail (or look what i got again!)
ever say "BE A F***ING MAN" to a transexual?
Teen Gets 12 years for "vampire killing"
the new yahoo mail ****s goats! (self censored)
All male naked review pix.
Hot Hooters calender Here!

Now, perhaps those threads had deeply moving, soul enriching content, but I'm not bothering to look and find out. I'm also not going to read them, and follow-up with a post saying "stop posting this stuff!"

Honestly, it sounds like some of you want to put religion in the same category as porn and potty threads.

Jenny
08-06-2002, 09:06 AM
Originally posted by attgig


woah there...
I was just standing on the sidelines and being a commentator - never took sides in this thread....

i've learned my lesson! :P

(well not really lesson - but yeah...decided not to take sides on this one)

well then. :P to you, too. ;) :kiss:

brainsmile
08-06-2002, 09:35 AM
http://www.theforumisdown.com/uploadfiles/0702/0be34800.jpg
No soup for you!


I just felt that this thread needed some Seinfeld

Jihforce
08-06-2002, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by hang10wannabe


wll that question answering could be due to the fact that we do have lives other than G|A and are not always on call to respond ASAP (not knockin ya Jihforce) and secondly... its Hang10WANNABE oblong... thirdly... altering the subject so we dont get into trouble... did u guys see that clip (or on tv when it was running) where Randy Johnson (pitcher for diamondbacks MLB) hit that bird with a fastball... i mean... MY GOD!!!! poor birdy... :angel:

I don't know about having a life. I mean, you both average more posts than I do. :heh: I think you can relax a bit, you don't have to jump at every chance to defend her. She handles herself very well around these parts.

Yeah i saw the "pitch". That bird pretty much exploded. :eek:

Jihforce
08-06-2002, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by Jenny
Imma just gonna say one thing:

To me, the word Devotional is a religious word. Maybe it is just the churches I grew up in and am attending now. I don't know. So I could figure out automatically that this was a thread about a Devotional LG had at church. It seemed like a simple deduction right away.

I'm with LG, Clueless, Nuts & gigger. This is an off topic forum, her thread titles were clear enough. If you don't like it, don't read it. If you do get confused about the thread title and click on it, then get into it and find out it isn't something you want to hear, click the Backspace key. It's that simple and you've taken about 3 seconds out of your day. Not something to get so upset about.

:)

I agree, if you click on it, then don't be surprised to see what you see. People should be able to start threads about anything they want (within the rules of the site). Its an offtopic forum afterall.
However, I also believe its ok for oblong to ask why LG keeps talking about religion. Just because people don't see eye to eye, doesn't mean they gotta keep quiet and ignore everything.
The most interesting threads are the ones where people express different views.
The only problem is that people get so passionate about what they talk about that they say things that may offend people. I think that as long as people respect each other and share their views instead of putting people down, we'll be ok.

DoPeY5007
08-06-2002, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by Jihforce


I agree, if you click on it, then don't be surprised to see what you see. People should be able to start threads about anything they want (within the rules of the site). Its an offtopic forum afterall.
However, I also believe its ok for oblong to ask why LG keeps talking about religion. Just because people don't see eye to eye, doesn't mean they gotta keep quiet and ignore everything.
The most interesting threads are the ones where people express different views.
The only problem is that people get so passionate about what they talk about that they say things that may offend people. I think that as long as people respect each other and share their views instead of putting people down, we'll be ok. well said



I have been staying away from these threads, I see the title and know not to go to them ;)

hang10wannabe
08-06-2002, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by Jenny
Imma just gonna say one thing:

To me, the word Devotional is a religious word. Maybe it is just the churches I grew up in and am attending now. I don't know. So I could figure out automatically that this was a thread about a Devotional LG had at church. It seemed like a simple deduction right away.

I'm with LG, Clueless, Nuts & gigger. This is an off topic forum, her thread titles were clear enough. If you don't like it, don't read it. If you do get confused about the thread title and click on it, then get into it and find out it isn't something you want to hear, click the Backspace key. It's that simple and you've taken about 3 seconds out of your day. Not something to get so upset about.

:)

she said it all... nuff said :bandit:

NuTs62
08-06-2002, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by Tommy Boomfiger
wow, you must be special, you know what God is thinking. :rolleyes:


maybe it would be better if you noted in your titles of the thread that it is a religious post. neither "One Opinion" nor "Devotional - long but awesome nonetheless..." gave me the impression that it was a religious post, and had i known i probably would not have read it. tricking someone into reading your preach isnt, IMO, honest or respectful of your gospel.

Many thread topics are misleading. But as for this thread topic, perhaps it may be misleading to some because "devotional" may perhaps be used in a different context, but for those who are Christians, Catholics, etc., many would assume that LG meant it in a religious sense.

NuTs62
08-06-2002, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by Tommy Boomfiger
no, its not up to the mods to move or lock or change something, its up to the poster to responsibly post in the proper forum. this is a 24 hour 365 day forum, and the mods have other things to do other than be on here 100% of the time.

agreed. Its not up to the mods. each user should have 'nuf brains to know what belongs in which forum. But if this topic isn't suitable for the off-topic, which is? Automobile? Software/OS? Got Deals? everyone has their own thing they like to discuss. examples: about their kids, relationships, God, Mel Gibson, news stories, food, etc. I'd be all for it if there were specific thread categories that these would be posted under, but there aren't.

NuTs62
08-06-2002, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by Jihforce
Yeah i saw the "pitch". That bird pretty much exploded. :eek:

man, i didn't see it :( wonder if there'll be clips available somewhere... wonder if any animal activists complained?

hang10wannabe
08-06-2002, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by NuTs62


man, i didn't see it :( wonder if there'll be clips available somewhere... wonder if any animal activists complained?

check kazaa and other such lovely file sharing progs... www.kazaalite.com or www.winmx.com :angel:

DoPeY5007
08-06-2002, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by NuTs62


man, i didn't see it :( wonder if there'll be clips available somewhere... wonder if any animal activists complained? it is in my share directory somewhere under videos

dbax791
08-06-2002, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by NuTs62


man, i didn't see it :( wonder if there'll be clips available somewhere... wonder if any animal activists complained?

Here's a clip...525 K.

One of the most unbelievable things I've ever seen. That bird just EXPLODES!

http://www.xtrasports690.com/video/pigeon.avi

Showtime
08-07-2002, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by the jello is jigglin
I dont mean any disrepect. Let me play devils advocate.

I doubt people would be so open in these forums to hear someone telling them they need God and that God needs them to obey him if
it didnt come from a female that us guys assume is "hot."

Theres a few spouting off against religion and I can appreciate Lg expressing her views, but lets be for real

-jel:|

Quoting myself :P
Like I said when Lg posted her 1st religious post(christianity) i was suprised no one really confronted her.

I'm not posting to stir up anything but Ob has a right to say what she feels on the subject and unless Apex says differently Lg can post what she wants to.

Lg, no one said being a Christian was going to be all roses. Christ had all the answers and he got a crown of thorns for all his troubles.
Deal better with rejection be more "Christlike."

Ob, I understand you not liking the subject but Lg is a newb and she has a right to post. She hasn't tried to convert anyone... (yet :P) or ask for donations for her church.

I've read posts from both you all and you both seem nice with decent hearts. If you two could get past the religious thing, we could all learn something by it.

I'm just rambling, forgive me.

-jel:halo:

NuTs62
08-07-2002, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by dbax791


Here's a clip...525 K.

One of the most unbelievable things I've ever seen. That bird just EXPLODES!

http://www.xtrasports690.com/video/pigeon.avi

rather disturbing.. hehe.. thanks for the link! :)

chrissy
08-07-2002, 12:45 AM
I just want to say one thing.

This has gone WAY overboard. I mean, ppl have gone off and, I feel, took this way to heart.

When Latingirl started posting the topics at hand, I could care less that she was doing it. And I still do. And I don't really think Obby minds either when it comes down to it. (I know, Obby loves assumptions on her feelings :P )

Just like I posted, I thought it was queer that a new female was posting religious threads so soon after the thread about YDF and their "dear god, please let me find good freebies and let billyjobob and her 12 illiterate children send me the recipe for moondoggie hash in a relatively short amount of time".. as to quote the previous thread.

We have always had religious thread here (and alway will), mostly debate threads and not inspirations though. Inspirations can be good everyonce in a while, especially with our rag tag group :P

I don't think it was a bashing comment to make. It was just an observation on my part (I can't assume Obby's feelings on that :) ) and didn't mean anything "harsh or bashing" by it.