Need a Bible quote

[eSDee]

Hey all I don't want to create a big religious thread uprising, but I need some help from some people who know the Bible pretty well. Here's the scoop:

My grandma is in her eighties, and in not very good shape. Honestly she is probably on her last leg :( Anyways she has always been very religious, and right now she is having a little problem. She is very sad because she thinks that God will not forgive her because when she was in a lot of pain a year ago, she did not pray as much as she used to. I think that her faith waivered for a while, but then regained the strength. However she is very sad because she thinks that she will not be forgiven for her lapse in faith.

Basically what I want to do is find a quote in the Bible that says something about how God always forgives those who ask, or something along that line. I am going to make a portrait for her and I want to photoshop the quote on it.

If you can give me any ideas, I would appreciate it. If you want to stay incognito you can email me [email protected] or PM me here.

Thanks.

[latingirl]

Well what immediately comes to mind is 1 John 1:9

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

But I'm sure that there are others that are really beautiful and will comfort her as well. Give me a minute.

Sorry about your abuelita. When both my grandparents got sick and died it was very difficult for me because I was very close to them.

You are a sweet grandson. I'm sure you'll put a smile on her face. I'll say a little prayer for her as well. :)

[attgig]

some of the more "prettier" verses that come to mind:


Psalm 130

1 Out of the depths I cry to you, O Lord ;
2 O Lord, hear my voice.
Let your ears be attentive
to my cry for mercy.

3 If you, O Lord , kept a record of sins,
O Lord, who could stand?
4 But with you there is forgiveness;
therefore you are feared.

5 I wait for the Lord , my soul waits,
and in his word I put my hope.
6 My soul waits for the Lord
more than watchmen wait for the morning,
more than watchmen wait for the morning.

7 O Israel, put your hope in the Lord ,
for with the Lord is unfailing love
and with him is full redemption.
8 He himself will redeem Israel
from all their sins.


and


Psalm 139

1 O Lord , you have searched me
and you know me.
2 You know when I sit and when I rise;
you perceive my thoughts from afar.
3 You discern my going out and my lying down;
you are familiar with all my ways.
4 Before a word is on my tongue
you know it completely, O Lord .

5 You hem me in-behind and before;
you have laid your hand upon me.
6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
too lofty for me to attain.

7 Where can I go from your Spirit?
Where can I flee from your presence?
8 If I go up to the heavens, you are there;
if I make my bed in the depths, [1] you are there.
9 If I rise on the wings of the dawn,
if I settle on the far side of the sea,
10 even there your hand will guide me,
your right hand will hold me fast.

11 If I say, "Surely the darkness will hide me
and the light become night around me,"
12 even the darkness will not be dark to you;
the night will shine like the day,
for darkness is as light to you.

13 For you created my inmost being;
you knit me together in my mother's womb.
14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
your works are wonderful,
I know that full well.
15 My frame was not hidden from you
when I was made in the secret place.
When I was woven together in the depths of the earth,
16 your eyes saw my unformed body.
All the days ordained for me
were written in your book
before one of them came to be.

17 How precious to [2] me are your thoughts, O God!
How vast is the sum of them!
18 Were I to count them,
they would outnumber the grains of sand.
When I awake,
I am still with you.

19 If only you would slay the wicked, O God!
Away from me, you bloodthirsty men!
20 They speak of you with evil intent;
your adversaries misuse your name.
21 Do I not hate those who hate you, O Lord ,
and abhor those who rise up against you?
22 I have nothing but hatred for them;
I count them my enemies.

23 Search me, O God, and know my heart;
test me and know my anxious thoughts.
24 See if there is any offensive way in me,
and lead me in the way everlasting.



the first one deals directly with our shortcomings (if you oh Lord kept a record of our sins, who could stand). - and God's grace (but with You, there is forgiveness)

the second one deals with how we cannot escape God's love and presence. How we can even run away from God (and surely your grandmother is trying to reach back to God, but just needs some help and encouragement) - and God will still be there - vs11&12. Vs 9&10 are great in illustrating how faithful God is. Then it continues on, with 'you know us so well - you created us'. Then the author starts to become more of awe-struck, and starts praising God. Finally, the author comes back to God saying that he considers God's thoughts precious, and that he's with God. Then, the last 2 verses, I love. Test me God - and if any of that Darkness, that evilness....ANYTHING! God - reveal it to me Lord that You can lead me back to Your path.

[jase71]

Edited for inaccuracy....

[attgig]

Originally posted by jase71
Edited for inaccuracy....

hmmm, raises eyebrows..
sigh, no energy to get into a theological debate.

[latingirl]

Originally posted by jase71
Even Jesus appeared to have some doubts and felt abandoned, asking "Why God hast thou forsaken me?" when he was in pain, and on the cross.

If Jesus himself went through it, it's perfectly understandable that your grandmother would as well.... she can hardly blame herself for struggling with a test that Jesus himself had difficulty with.

I don't think its the same context.

I thought eSDee's grandmother blames herself for something that she percieves she's done "wrong". And eSDee wants to just give her some passages to comfort her.

Jesus was without sin. He didn't feel guilt, but as a man He felt the pain and anguish of what He was going through at the time. He was reacting. But He also knew what was happening to Him and why. He could've actually chosen to not go through it, but did because He knew it was for the benefit of us all.

Although, your statement is correct "she (or any of us) can hardly blame herself for struggling with a test that Jesus himself had difficulty with.". Which for me, helps me to know that I'm not alone in the things that I go through but I have a God who knows and understands my plight (which is one of the reason's He came to walk among us in the first place).

Okay, with that said I know not everyone believes that and if you have a problem or want to further discuss this...pls start a new thread. Out of respect, lets keep this one in reference to helping eSDee's grandmother, cause she's really the topic of this thread.

Oh, and I hope you don't think that I'm just trying to correct you. I just kinda wanted to point that out. :)

[jase71]

I apologize...

I'm not religious, and I should know better than to stick my nose into topics where I don't have enough background to converse intelligently...

Please, do me the favor of removing my comments from your posts, if you would, and I'll stick to familiar ground from now on...

[Jenny]

My absolute favorite part of the Bible is Psalm 139. I went through a REALLY bad time in 7th grade, where I felt like I had nothing to live for. The youth intern at our church at the time counseled me and gave me that to read and I have never forgotten the peace I got when I read it.

My prayers are with you & your grandmother, EsDee.

[eSDee]

Thank you all for your input. I like them all but I think latingirl's original quote is best for what I want to do. I don't want to have a very long quote, just one or two sentences. Keep em coming though, these are great so far!

[latingirl]

Originally posted by jase71
I apologize...

I'm not religious, and I should know better than to stick my nose into topics where I don't have enough background to converse intelligently...

Please, do me the favor of removing my comments from your posts, if you would, and I'll stick to familiar ground from now on...

No need to apologize. I think your statement was right, just not in this context. There's nothing wrong with "sticking your nose in" esp. since your intention was to contribute.

That's why I wanted to make the point that I didn't post to merely correct you. But I thought (or hope) that the clarification would give eSDee (and everyone else for that matter) more understanding for when he talks to his grandmother.

[Blitz]

Got my prayers too, hope everything goes alright.

Just remember, God always forgives no matter what it was. A thief was forgiven before his death, a women or man can and will be forgiven if they ask. As long as you keep Jesus as your Lord and Savior, ask for repentence, He will forgive you.

[DankNstickY]

:stupid:

[Apex]

Psalm 103.

[johnnymk]

If she is truly a born again Christain, then there is nothing that she can do to lose her salvation. Once we are a child of God, the Lord keeps us; we don't keep ourselves. If we had to do something to maintain our place in eternity, it would be a very precarious, nervous situation that God would put us in.
Romans 8:38,39 states: "For I am persuaded that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Nor height, nor depth nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord."

[latingirl]

Originally posted by johnnymk

Romans 8:38,39 states: "For I am persuaded that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Nor height, nor depth nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord."

That would be a real meaningful one for your purposes, eSDee.

[Nanotech9]

Originally posted by johnnymk
If she is truly a born again Christain, then there is nothing that she can do to lose her salvation. Once we are a child of God, the Lord keeps us; we don't keep ourselves. If we had to do something to maintain our place in eternity, it would be a very precarious, nervous situation that God would put us in.
Romans 8:38,39 states: "For I am persuaded that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Nor height, nor depth nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord."

true, except if we had to do something to maintain our place in eternity, we would fail miserably everytime. There is nothing as humans and sinners that we can do to gain salvation of our own works and actions... well, other than TRUST.

Salvation is not something that is earned, it is something that is given to us, and not for anything we've done to deserve it.

... Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not unto thine own understanding... (and i forget the last half)

[johnnymk]

Originally posted by Nanotech9

Salvation is not something that is earned, it is something that is given to us, and not for anything we've done to deserve it.



AMEN!!... (I know that sounds corny, but it really does apply here)

[topane]

I don't have a Bible quote, but I want to say that if she's almost gone I think it's wonderful that you're looking to comfort her at the end. I'm sure it will mean the world to her :).

My thoughts are with you and your family.

[DankNstickY]

Originally posted by Nanotech9

Salvation is not something that is earned, it is something that is given to us, and not for anything we've done to deserve it.


sorry, but i gotta disagree there. ur sayin that salvation is something that is simply given to us, regardless of our actions while here on earth?
so, does that mean that we're all going to be saved? or does God just pick people out randomly and give them salvation?

if it was as u stated above, that would probably mean that osama bin laden could be saved too, despite everything he's done. he can, but only if he repents and asks for forgivness. i'm not one to judge and say who's going to and who's not going to be saved, but i'm just saying that u DO have to earn salvation.

sorry to bring this to ur thread eSDeeLoco, but i had to let it out :)

[attgig]

Originally posted by Nanotech9


... Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not unto thine own understanding... (and i forget the last half)

In all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will make your paths straight


proverbs 3:5-6

Trust in the Lord with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
6 in all your ways acknowledge him,
and he will make your paths straight.

(NIV version)

[attgig]

Originally posted by DankNstickY
sorry, but i gotta disagree there. ur sayin that salvation is something that is simply given to us, regardless of our actions while here on earth?
so, does that mean that we're all going to be saved? or does God just pick people out randomly and give them salvation?

if it was as u stated above, that would probably mean that osama bin laden could be saved too, despite everything he's done. he can, but only if he repents and asks for forgivness. i'm not one to judge and say who's going to and who's not going to be saved, but i'm just saying that u DO have to earn salvation.

sorry to bring this to ur thread eSDeeLoco, but i had to let it out :)

well, Christian doctrine would disagree with you (yes, both protestants AND recently, the catholics)...

that's just how amazing God is...no matter how bad we screw up - even killing people - God still loves us, and wants us to be with Him.

don't think salvation as a reward for living a good life - it's not.
salvation is eternal fellowship with God. Those who want to be with God - no matter what we did - will go be with God.
those who don't want to be with God - well, that's what they'll get.

[DankNstickY]

Originally posted by attgig


well, Christian doctrine would disagree with you (yes, both protestants AND recently, the catholics)...

that's just how amazing God is...no matter how bad we screw up - even killing people - God still loves us, and wants us to be with Him.

don't think salvation as a reward for living a good life - it's not.
salvation is eternal fellowship with God. Those who want to be with God - no matter what we did - will go be with God.
those who don't want to be with God - well, that's what they'll get.

ok yea.... its not really a reward, but in a way it is. if u dont repent and ask to be forgiven for your sins, no your not going to be saved. it all depends on whether the person has repented or not. i dont think God is going to have sinners up in heaven. its true He is saving US - sinners. but after repenting and being saved, we won't be sinners anymore.

saying you want to be witih God is one thing, but acting like it is another. its like saying you want to buy yourself a ferrari. you have to work for it. it wont be given to you by the dealership just because you want it. same with salvation.

[Cheesypuff]

My prayers are also with you and your grandma

believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shall be saved!

[Markel]

Originally posted by johnnymk

Romans 8:38,39 states: "For I am persuaded that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Nor height, nor depth nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord."
That was my father's favorite passage. He's enjoying the reality of it now. :)

[attgig]

Originally posted by DankNstickY
saying you want to be witih God is one thing, but acting like it is another. its like saying you want to buy yourself a ferrari. you have to work for it. it wont be given to you by the dealership just because you want it. same with salvation.

12Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed--not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence--continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, 13for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose.

phillipians 2:12-13

[Markel]

Salvation (deliverance from eternal death and having eternal life) is a gift: "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." (Eph. 2:8-9). "For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin." (Rom. 4:3-8)

But there are many things beyond salvation that are rewards for those who obey and serve the Lord faithfully. Those things are conditional, and can be forfeited.

[Showtime]

Yeah, this nice thread has turned into "The Bible Jeopardy."


<jel>"Alex, I'd like Faith for $1000."

<alex>"What is faith without good works?"

:hmm: <jeop theme music> :sweat:

<jel>"dead!"
BUZZ!!!!

<Alex>"No, sorry the correct answer is...err you got it right...."

<jel>:D

From what I remember Salvation is given freely, but the cost was the highest. "No greater gift than a man lay down his life for another."
etc etc etc.
So in my "humble" opinion, I feel anyone could be saved. Chances are most aren't cuz of pride. On the otherhand some of these Saints aint gonna be there(Heaven) either. I mean look at Darth Vader, he changed at the last instant and lives happily with Obi and that short green guy.j/k
BTW: Don't make me look for scripture to back it up.

Here is something sweet for Grandma, it's a song:
Jesus loves me this I know
for the Bible tells me so
Little ones to him belong
They are weak, but he is strong
Yes Jesus loves me x's 3
The Bible tells me so....

-jel:halo:

[eSDee]

Thanks again for all your input. I hope to post some good news on this soon. You all are awesome.