View Full Version : Ok since when did schools close for Yom Kippur?
Pinkgirl36
09-13-2002, 01:58 PM
I honestly didn't know that public and private schools have this day off....but they do...when did they start doing this???
and a side note I have a 3 day weekend :pfft:
In this area the schools have been closing for Yom Kipper as long as I remember.
hapoo
09-13-2002, 02:06 PM
For the first time my teachers asked if there were any Jewish students so that they weren't counted as being absent on monday. To be fair they also said that special days for any religion would be excused so in response i came up with my own religion, "hapoo-anity"... all mondays are holidays :P
ufcrusher
09-13-2002, 02:10 PM
Well everywhere I have lived up until now has always had a large Jewish population and as such, the schools always gave off for Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur. I really dont know if the schools here give off or not, since no one has been in them for a LONG time.
On a side note, why wouldnt they have off. Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur are the jewish high holy days. It seems only fair that if they give off for Christmas and Easter, which are the holy days in christian/catholic based religions, that they should give off for the Jewish high holy days.
mcs328
09-13-2002, 02:18 PM
Ever since I was in school I think it was a day off. I always wanted Chinese New Year off and other ethnic days off but never did. It wasn't a religion. Sigh.
Tommy Boomfiger
09-13-2002, 02:25 PM
none of my schools have had that day off, but in high school students were allowed up to 3 days off for religios holidays which would not count against attendance records. the school would talk to religious officials and figure out how many days for which holidays. now the elementary and junior high schools do the same thing. private schools can take off whichever days they want, they dont have to worry about religion because they are private institutions, not public or governmental.
Nanotech9
09-13-2002, 03:06 PM
BTW, a little offtopic, but Xmas and Easter are NOT christian holidays - they're very pagan holiday... or at least thats what they're based off of.
Originally posted by Nanotech9
BTW, a little offtopic, but Xmas and Easter are NOT christian holidays - they're very pagan holiday... or at least thats what they're based off of.
Linkage plz.
Originally posted by Nija
Linkage plz.
Yeah, I'm curious about this one too.
Originally posted by mcs328
Ever since I was in school I think it was a day off. I always wanted Chinese New Year off and other ethnic days off but never did. It wasn't a religion. Sigh.
Maybe as part of a trade package the US could have Chinese New Years off and the Chinese could have "Western" New Years off.
hapoo
09-13-2002, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by Nija
Linkage plz.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=christmas+easter+pagan&spell=1
Freelance Superhero
09-13-2002, 05:06 PM
i can't complain... my boss is jewish, so i don't have to work on monday either... :P
CornMonkey
09-13-2002, 05:14 PM
this was from the first site listed from the google link.
I hear people ask me this, "Why do you not celebrate Christmas (transgress the traditions of our elders)?". Nowhere in the pages of scripture do we find a command to keep the celebration of Christmas. Nowhere in the pages of scripture do we find an example of any disciple keeping Christmas.
i thought this was EXTREMELY funny.
Tommy Boomfiger
09-13-2002, 05:25 PM
in illinois, its illegal to take days off for religious holidays. thats why its winter break, not christmas break.
Nanotech9
09-13-2002, 06:46 PM
christmas was originally a roman (i believe) pagan holiday. I believe it was to the sun god, or something like that (could be off on that though)... this pagan holiday eventually got turned into a "christian" holiday, adn then later on "St. Nick" was added to it (norweigan custom?) as well as the tree, which was from yet another source.
The birth of Christ wasnt even the same time of year. If you research it, it more towards the springtime..
This is pretty funny:
"The only time Christmas is even mentioned in the pages of scripture is to condemn it (as we will see). "
its funny, because "christmas" was not EVER mentioned in the bible. It didnt exist back then.
to quote another source on the web i found:
"The following is a quote from the Encyclopedia Brittanica, Volume 11 ; page 390.
"During the later periods of Roman history, sun worship gained in importance and ultimately led to what has been called a 'solar monotheism.' Nearly all the gods of the period were possessed of Solar qualities, and both Christ and Mithra acquired the traits of solar seities.
The feast of Sol and Victus (open unconquered Sun) on December 25th was celebrated with great joy, and eventually this date was taken over by the Christians as Christmas, the birthday of Christ." !!
The Christians were trying to get more converts So they adapted a pagan holiday to their worship to appease the pagans in 336 AD
Now I ask..."WHO CONVERTED WHO???"
Do we murder to bring a murderer to God?
Do we rape to bring a rapist to God?
Well, the mainstream beliefs were far from the truth the apostles taught anyway.. But still...it was the pagans that taught the Christians this custom. We ought to be teaching them by example the truth about the pagan holidays.!
Christmas is a very popular holiday. However, as is often the case, what is popular is not always right and what is right is not always popular.
Christmas means 'mass for Christ'. The name of the holiday is much newer than the holiday itself.
The customs associated with Christmas, in one form or another, have been celebrated for thousands of years. 'Christmas' is just a new name for an old pagan holiday."
http://www.greaterthings.com/JeanKellySharp/Christmas_Easter.htm
Tommy Boomfiger
09-13-2002, 08:02 PM
ive always wondered about the dates of religious holidays. the calendar we use is not the same as when Christ was born, so how can dec 25th be his birthday. i believe july, august and october were added to the calendar during the roman empire. please correct me if im wrong, its been a long time since ive studied this stuff. the year as we know it now would not have been 12 months in the time of Christ. i know a year is still a year no matter how the calendar is configured, but how do we know it was the 25th of dec? maybe its just not making sense to me :shrug:
ufcrusher
09-13-2002, 09:05 PM
Nano - if you looked at some of those links you cited, they actually say that although some people believe that they are not christian based, the reality is that its just a coincidence. (I clicked on the fifth one down) http://home.nyc.rr.com/mysticalrose/pagan8.html
Part of the reason why they claim that they are originally pagan is because of the closeness of the dates to traditionally pagan celebrations. It also said that there is no possible way that Jesus could have been born then, based on the birthing season of sheep, but if you read the links, it is not only possible, but probable that he was born then.
It also said that Easter was derived from Passover, a jewish holiday...which makes sense.
I really could careless, as I am jewish and whether or not they are pagan holidays or christian based holidays, it doesnt matter. The reason why they are given off now is because of there current interpretation by Christians/Catholics.
Ladogaboy
09-13-2002, 11:23 PM
Well, schools in my area never did. I think it is a regional thing. There were no Jewish and no Asian students at my school, and we never celebrated Yom Kippur or Chinese New Year. But there is a large Latino population, and my school did hold Cinco de Mayo celebrations. Some of the schools even extend winter break because of Día de los Reyes. :shrug:
molecularfire
09-14-2002, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by Tommy Boomfiger
in illinois, its illegal to take days off for religious holidays. thats why its winter break, not christmas break.
Really? I go to school in Illinois, and we had Yom Kippur off. :)
Tommy Boomfiger
09-14-2002, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by molecularfire
Really? I go to school in Illinois, and we had Yom Kippur off. :) well, they cant say it was for a religious holiday. since schools are a governmental and public institution it cant be associated with any religions. that just means that to get a religious holiday off there would have to be another reason for that day off, like my example, Christmas break would be called winter break. at least thats why my school stopped calling it Christmas break.
brain
09-14-2002, 02:14 PM
Hmmm... One of my profs that I have class with on Monday is Jewish. I guess he'd rather be teaching.
molecularfire
09-15-2002, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by Tommy Boomfiger
well, they cant say it was for a religious holiday. since schools are a governmental and public institution it cant be associated with any religions. that just means that to get a religious holiday off there would have to be another reason for that day off, like my example, Christmas break would be called winter break. at least thats why my school stopped calling it Christmas break.
I guess that makes sense. I go to a private school. :)
Tommy Boomfiger
09-15-2002, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by molecularfire
I guess that makes sense. I go to a private school. :) yeah, private schools dont have to worry about that. thats why there can be religious private schools. a friend of mine who went to a religious private school got half a month off for some religious event and the rest of the month were half days.
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