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Tommy Boomfiger
09-17-2002, 12:24 AM
Students at the University of Southern California could face a school year without computer access if they are busted swapping movies and music online.

In an e-mail message to all students, school officials warned that using peer-to-peer file-trading services could force the university to kick students off the network.

"We want to alert you to the fact that many of you are risking complete loss of access to the USC computer system and both disciplinary and legal action," wrote USC dean of libraries Jerry Campbell and vice president of student affairs Michael Jackson in the e-mail.

The e-mail outlines the definition of copyright violations, particularly with respect to making copies of movies and music, as well as sharing those files. It warns that the entertainment industry has been "obtaining snapshots" of Internet IP addresses and a list of files being traded by people across the country. They have then been asking ISPs to cut off access to those suspected of piracy.

The USC warning is the latest in a long line of wrangling between schools and the entertainment industry over copyright violation.

The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) has targeted schools for several years as part of its ongoing Soundbyting campaign to stamp out file trading.

It has had some success. Jeffery Levy was convicted of copyright infringement in 1999 for distributing thousands of files using the University of Oregon's network. Just two months later, 71 Carnegie Mellon University students were reprimanded for making the MP3 files available to anyone on the school's network.

At the height of the Napster craze, 17 U.S. colleges banned the song-swapping service completely.

However, the last two years have seen a change in the winds. Schools have been loath to restrict what its students can do.

MIT has taken a hands-off approach to its students' activities over the years, allowing students to use as much bandwidth as they want. The University of California at Berkeley and Stanford University have placed limits on how much bandwidth students can use.

story @ wired.com (http://www.wired.com/news/mp3/0,1285,55159,00.html)

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that sucks for USC students. on the upside, thier net connection must be fast as hell now

irwin
09-17-2002, 12:29 AM
lol vp of student affairs is michael jackson :heh:

But yea, sucks for the kids that go there. p2p is a big part of college life. :)

brainsmile
09-17-2002, 12:40 AM
Speaking of USC... did you know that if you are not a student there but are just on campus you don't have to worry about paying any parking tickets issued from campus cops? I heard that if you are a student they can block you from registering but if you are not... they don't report these tickets to the DMV cause it is private property so you can just purposefully not pay for the parking meters on campus.

NuTs62
09-17-2002, 12:47 AM
"obtaining snapshots".. i wonder how they are going about doing that? :hmm: If this was true, and they had so much power, wouldn't we be seeing a whole bunch more people getting busted?

Tommy Boomfiger
09-17-2002, 12:58 AM
Originally posted by NuTs62
"obtaining snapshots".. i wonder how they are going about doing that? :hmm: If this was true, and they had so much power, wouldn't we be seeing a whole bunch more people getting busted? since this rule is made by USC themselves and its thier own private networks they can track usage to back to a user account. i dont know how they will figure out if you are trading copyrighted materials, but any files that pass though thier servers can be sniffed out and viewed by pretty much any computer on the network. doesnt even have to be an admin. that may raise some privacy issues

brain
09-17-2002, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by passwird
lol vp of student affairs is michael jackson :heh:

But yea, sucks for the kids that go there. p2p is a big part of college life. :)

The COO of a company we will be partnering with is named Michael Jackson as well.

NuTs62
09-17-2002, 01:32 AM
Originally posted by Tommy Boomfiger
since this rule is made by USC themselves and its thier own private networks they can track usage to back to a user account. i dont know how they will figure out if you are trading copyrighted materials, but any files that pass though thier servers can be sniffed out and viewed by pretty much any computer on the network. doesnt even have to be an admin. that may raise some privacy issues

I was referring more to this


It warns that the entertainment industry has been "obtaining snapshots" of Internet IP addresses and a list of files being traded by people across the country. They have then been asking ISPs to cut off access to those suspected of piracy.

which was included in the e-mail. So its the entertainment industry, which probably means primarily the RIAA.

ribitch
09-17-2002, 04:38 AM
my school has blocked almost all swapping program ports that I know of. They are also using packeteer, so they can see what you ar edoing. It pretty much sucks. We recieved the famous sony letters telling us to do something about piracy and all of that crap. So i rely primarily on the good ol fashion websites to download albums. I am working on essential santana and xzibit right now. I got the new disturbed yesterday, and will buy it today.

Merlin
09-17-2002, 05:40 AM
Makes sense. Afterall resources are scarce and the P2P stuff can suck up quite a bit, which decreases what is available for legitimate academic use. If you must P2P, and I must, just do it at home. :shrug:

Cantacuzene
09-17-2002, 06:14 AM
We have Kazaa, Imesh, and WinMX blocked here.

Hence the beauty of Direct Connect. They cant block it because it uses IRC ports, which they cant block becuase they have legitimate uses. Same with AIM. My friends send me certain file types via AIM that re hard to obtain elsewhere.

Blocking warez at college? Well, good luck USC. :rolleyes:

Ladogaboy
09-17-2002, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by Cantacuzene
We have Kazaa, Imesh, and WinMX blocked here.

Hence the beauty of Direct Connect. They cant block it because it uses IRC ports, which they cant block becuase they have legitimate uses. Same with AIM. My friends send me certain file types via AIM that re hard to obtain elsewhere.

Blocking warez at college? Well, good luck USC. :rolleyes:

Yeah, my college has them blocked too, but I suspect that it is more because they don't want to have to upgrade from two T1 lines. :rolleyes: You have to admit, though, blocking things like Kazaa and Imesh does discourage the average person.

But what nuts is talking about with the RIAA taking snapshots of IP addresses... that's a whole 'nother ballgame. :2far:

Booyamos
09-17-2002, 09:57 AM
Well all this fileswapping does use a lot of bandwidth. I go to Boston University and they have been pretty slow to do anything so far :) but I work for the law school and from what we have heard from Information Technology fileswapping and those types of programs take up about 80% of our network resources.

So this year they are requiring all computers that connect to be activated first. Basically just have to activiate it and say Yes my name is "Joe Smoe" and I am using this comp. But I don't think they will actually do anything here... yet.