so you wanna talk about overclocking....

[xsiled2]

you need to change ur theme in XP cf...

nice btw

[Showtime]

wb cf.
wonder where you been and now i c.
i guess the games on again, i'll have to buy a new mobo to get mine past 2.4ghz.
nice oc btw, whats the voltage right now?
what ya got in the rig besides the new mobo and memory?
so secretive lately... :P
regardless nice oc bro!

-jel:halo:

[Tommy Boomfiger]

hey cf :wavey: wb

that is a sweet oc dude.
and theres nothing wrong with your theme, im using it too, only on a mac :P. i still use it on my xp box sometimes though

[SonyGuy]

Wow, that's really cool cf! And that was with a 1.6a?

[xsiled2]

Originally posted by Tommy Boomfiger
theres nothing wrong with your theme

its fruity.


Originally posted by SonyGuy
Wow, that's really cool cf! And that was with a 1.6a?

ill be CF's rep since he doesnt talk much anymore :D, yeah it was a 1.6a i believe his voltage was 1.85 or 1.9.

as for the rest of the rig, im not sure, he was hesitant to put the rest of his hardware after he OCed, he didnt want to jinx it i guess :D

[Showtime]

Voltage way too high cf rep! You go tell CF I said to lower it.

:P

-jel:halo:

[Showtime]

Many northys have burned out @1.75+ volts, but you know this MAN!

Still its good fun to get past that Ghz OC.

I figure I'll play around with mine like that when 1.6-2.3 is considered slow. I just want see what the will do. For now the voltage stays below 1.7.

-jel:halo:

[Bires]

I need faster memory. With stock cooling in my quiet 50cf/m case, My CPU temps are only 2 degrees higher at 133 FSB than 100FSB. If I had PC3000 or 3700 memory, I'm sure I can get my 1.6A to at least 2.6. I was fortunate to get the last run of Costa Rica processors last June.

[Showtime]

FYI voltage killing the 1.6A isnt dependent on temps. Many of them ran cool but the extra volts fried em internally where no amount of cooling will help.

-jel:halo:

[Bires]

Hmm...good to know

So, how do you know when a P4 is running TOO fast?

[xsiled2]

its like driving 200 miles per hour in a 50mph zone, eventually the car runs out of juice and since people ( CF in this case) is/ are crazy instead of backing up and declocking they just buy a new setup all together.

and that theme is fruity.

[Showtime]

:nono:

You know the game is to get stable oc's with no dry ice etc... At least that's what it used to be.

I only bring up the overvoltage cuz many people had theirs "maxed out" at 2XXX Mhz, at 1.75+Volts and it died or had it running fine for a while and than died or they took it down to say 1.6volts and ran it at under 2.1ghz and later it just died.

It all gets traced back to 1.75+volts. That seems to be the common breaking point for Northwoods. Check MO or AT forums. Not trying to "hate" just lookin out for my boy.

Since I can't easily get my hands on another, I'll keep mine under 1.75. Besides my board only gives me 1.6volts, if thats accurate.

If you get a chance try a ASUS P4B533 board or one of the 845 based ASUS's. They are the most oc friendly boards for northwoods. You might be able to higher oc with less voltage but every board is different so.... :shrug:

Good luck all in the quest for speed!

-jel:halo:
BTW: cf, you can RMA straight to intel?

[Jiffy John]

my 1.8A @ 2.4 (133 FSB but I have PC2700 so I can push it higher later) is running 45-46C idle and 58-60 full load.Is that too high? What's the max in temps I should tolerate? I got a Thermalright AX-478 on it with a TT 80mm 57CFM fan. I think I might have applied the artic alumina wrong or something. I constantly have to apply force on it to remove the fan filter, etc. How thin of a layer of thermal paste are we talking about?

Anyone have any instructions on applying/removing/reapplying thermal paste (ie. Artic Alumina)? Thanks =)

Btw, I haven't changed voltage and it sometimes dips to 1.41V but it's stable so I guess I'm alright in that department. I'm just worried about my heat and what effect it has on my CPU.

[Showtime]

What kind of case and what are the case temps?

I apply thermal paste by taking a plastic bag, the very thin kind from a grocery store and stretching the plastic around a finger. Smooth a thin layer on the cpu. Like a thin coat of spraypaint.
Mount the cooler on it and see if its covered. Remove cooler.
Smooth the paste on both the cpu and cooler. Usually I dont have to add any more.
Than mount it and test for heat. Run a few things and check temps.

Dont use your bare finger (oils) or a dirty bag (dirt :P) cuz that will mess with the thermal paste.
-jel:halo:

[Ladogaboy]

WB, chosen... I see you've kept busy! ;)

Nice work there, btw. :cool:

[Jiffy John]

Originally posted by the jello is jigglin
What kind of case and what are the case temps?

I apply thermal paste by taking a plastic bag, the very thin kind from a grocery store and stretching the plastic around a finger. Smooth a thin layer on the cpu. Like a thin coat of spraypaint.
Mount the cooler on it and see if its covered. Remove cooler.
Smooth the paste on both the cpu and cooler. Usually I dont have to add any more.
Than mount it and test for heat. Run a few things and check temps.

Dont use your bare finger (oils) or a dirty bag (dirt :P) cuz that will mess with the thermal paste.
-jel:halo:

To redo the thermal paste, how do I get it off on both surfaces?
I have Ever Clear mid-tower case from newegg.com
Case temps tend to be 8-10C lower than CPU temp.

[GraingerGuy]

Originally posted by Jiffy John


To redo the thermal paste, how do I get it off on both surfaces?
I have Ever Clear mid-tower case from newegg.com
Case temps tend to be 8-10C lower than CPU temp.

This stuff called goof off works really well. Just use it in an open area....it VERY bad stuff to inhale.

[Jiffy John]

Is there anything more conventional, less dangerous, and safer for my CPU core? =)

[Tommy Boomfiger]

Originally posted by Jiffy John
Is there anything more conventional, less dangerous, and safer for my CPU core? =) rubbing alcohol and a qtip or paper towel

[Showtime]

Cf,
I think you caught something. A fever or maybe some sick ocer virus.
Anyways nice oc! 3ghz is no joke!

-jel:halo:

[xsiled2]

crazy bugger.... always buying the expensive stuff and making it work for the dough he shelled out, then he buys a whole other setup within 2 months. i call it "the way of The Fool" :D

[Showtime]

I've been looking into that AGOIA 1600 athlon chip. Looks like as close as I can get to another 1.6A type oc'er and only $53 shipped.
Let the games begin!
-jel:halo:

[bachviet]

Originally posted by the jello is jigglin
I've been looking into that AGOIA 1600 athlon chip. Looks like as close as I can get to another 1.6A type oc'er and only $53 shipped.
Let the games begin!
-jel:halo:
You need to get a good motherboard and unlock the CPU to get to 1.6A O/Cing level. Unlocking the XP is not as easy as the T-bird that's why I haven't tried mine yet.

[jmeyer2718]

FYI:

If you rma a northwood to Intel, they can and will test it for overvolting. If its found that your cpu was fried because you had the voltage too high, they will void out your warranty. Its happened to several people, so be careful.

If you are running your voltage at anything higher than 1.7v idle, youre really asking for trouble. Most northwoods at 1.75-1.8v will burn out within 2 weeks to a month. It would be in your best interests to reduce your voltage ASAP to under 1.7v idle.

And finally, most overclockers only consider an oc stable if your computer runs prime95 for a few hours without crashing. Its one thing to overclock your computer to really high levels, and another to have it stable at those speeds.

[rde]

Very nice overclocks, chosenfool;)

SNDS stinks and has claimed far too many great chips already, but......as we all know: if you want to play, you must be willing to pay;)

A question earlier in the thread was about cleaning thermal paste off:

isopropyl alcohol(purer is better) is dandy;) and a coffee filter is about the best material I've found: no scratches or lint, and it does absorb the paste.

XP1600s are the best Pally's around- they can get right up into TBred territory with ease; one of the reasons they are so popular for overclocking is because they do well without unlocking!

Its fairly common to get 1800 out of a locked chip, and 1900 is not unheard of either.

Get an agoia Y 0213 and you may hit 2ghz:)

One of these days I have to add a P4 to my lone P3 duallie rig:D