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Leon
09-29-2002, 10:01 PM
Thanks for reading the review. Please post any questions or comments in this thread.


http://www.gotapex.com/reviews.php?rev=videocards/S9700/index.html
Showtime
09-30-2002, 09:15 AM
Looks like a decent card but not as good as the ATI.
I would have liked to see a comparison between the Saphire and the Ati version of the 9700pro.

:pfft:

-jel:halo:
bachviet
09-30-2002, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by Leon
Thanks for reading the review. Please post any questions or comments in this thread.


http://www.gotapex.com/reviews.php?rev=videocards/S9700/index.html
From what I heard, all R9700 Pro are built by ATI so there is no difference in memory speed.
LPMiller
09-30-2002, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by the jello is jigglin
Looks like a decent card but not as good as the ATI.
I would have liked to see a comparison between the Saphire and the Ati version of the 9700pro.

:pfft:

-jel:halo:

As I said in the review, it's the same exact card, except for the heatsink. There is no difference.
LPMiller
09-30-2002, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by bachviet

From what I heard, all R9700 Pro are built by ATI so there is no difference in memory speed.

At first yes, but that is changing as the partners begin to ramp up.
LPMiller
09-30-2002, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by DarkFury
Hmmm... so where did this "sample" card go after the review. :D

Um....it's around here....somewhere....
LegendKiller
09-30-2002, 12:11 PM
Good review LP, I need to get me one of those...



LK
Showtime
09-30-2002, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by LPMiller


As I said in the review, it's the same exact card, except for the heatsink. There is no difference.

um... no. i think that saphire regulary sells for like $30+ cheaper. also it seems the radeon version had better scores than what you got on that. in the early comparisons the ti4600 lost in every test(besides that gf one) and they ran the radeon at higher quality.

:pfft:

-jel:halo:
BTW: just stirring the pot, i'm the same guy who complained of no ocing scores on that ti4400 review :P. plz show me a direct comparison sometime. i'd like to buy the saphire card and save $ if its the ati's equal.
LPMiller
10-01-2002, 07:38 AM
Well again, the Radeon is more CPU limited, I think, then the GeForce. You wont see the trouncing on a 1.4GHZ machine that you do on a higher end one. The lower the CPU speed, the closer the two cards perform. A lot of the early raving about it being 160 percent faster was just so much hooey. It depends on the setup, and I always take tests on top end systems with a grain of salt - because top end systems are outside the average user.

It IS the same card; in fact the very first ones by Sapphire were made by ATI and used the ATI heatsink. I'm not positive that this card wasn't made by ATI - my understanding is there still aren't too many non ATI cards being produced yet.
Apex
10-01-2002, 11:42 PM
@#$#@$ just tried two 9700 Pro's and neither work with my motherboard.
Ladogaboy
10-02-2002, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by Apex
@#$#@$ just tried two 9700 Pro's and neither work with my motherboard.

What is your Mobo?
sbp
10-02-2002, 01:11 AM
The guy at www.3dchipset.com couldn't get the Radeon9700 working and he has a great power supply: the PC Power & Cooling Silencer 400 ATX. Definitely some issues to be worked out with this card. :hmm:
Apex
10-02-2002, 02:40 AM
The motherboard is an Intel OEM board, i860 dual Xeon chipset. Power supply is a 500 watt Compaq workstation class power supply, on their top of the line EVO W8000 workstation. It's extremely stout, but I've also tried 2 other PS's and none of them work.

I need to RMA the card for a revision 1.3 card.
Showtime
10-02-2002, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by Apex
@#$#@$ just tried two 9700 Pro's and neither work with my motherboard.

:hmm: Are those the "Sapphire" versions of the 9700?

Just askin :shrug:

You work out the bugs, I buy when its fixed and the price drops.
BTW, why dont you keep a cheap card that you know works lying around?
:p
-jel:halo:
LPMiller
10-02-2002, 11:07 AM
It's likely not the Powersupply, but the motherboard. I know HardOCP was mentioning some mainboards aren't providing the right voltage through the AGP slot - the Radeon is VERY picky about it, I guess.
Apex
10-02-2002, 11:42 AM
Nah, it's an ATI card. In fact, I just bought a second 9700 Pro card yesterday to try out. The first card was revision 0.0 I believe, the second card revision 1.0.