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but can I send my son to someone to potty train? This kid is SO stubborn! Does anyone know if they make diapers for high schoolers??
:angry:
They make diapers for seniors, so a high schooler should fit those.
Ladogaboy
10-09-2002, 11:38 AM
Look at it this way: He will either grow out of it, or he will be living with Ma for the rest of his life. :hihi:
[Principal Skinner] She lives with me! [/Principal Skinner]
Burzhui
10-09-2002, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by Kim
but can I send my son to someone to potty train? This kid is SO stubborn! Does anyone know if they make diapers for high schoolers??
:angry:
hey if the kid poops himself let him roll around in it until he gets sick of it and starts crying then pretend like you don't care, he'll figure out that he shouldn't do it.
Btw way to get rid of your responsibilities:rolleyes:
hoey222
10-09-2002, 12:13 PM
ya rilly - he'll be embarassed one too many times at school and then all of a sudden have an urge to "learn"
:)
brainsmile
10-09-2002, 12:32 PM
Originally posted by hoey222
ya rilly - he'll be embarassed one too many times at school and then all of a sudden have an urge to "learn"
:) or be emotionally scarred for life.
Merlin
10-09-2002, 12:49 PM
I assume you have tried rubbing his nose in it. :eek:
Originally posted by Burzhui
Btw way to get rid of your responsibilities:rolleyes:
Hey, thanks for the giggle. I'll have to show this to all the people who tell me to relax a bit when it comes to my children. :D
oblongmelon
10-09-2002, 03:22 PM
:) My sons took three days to potty train..you need to set aside 3 or 4 straight days when you know you can devote ALL your time to nothing but potty training..I picked up some UNDEROO'S and told my kids-you can't wear them until you can go Pee-pee/poopie in the pottie like a big boy..then I hung the underoo's up on a hanger and attached a big bag of candy and cheap toys to it. (stuff I knew they liked and wanted)..I said..when you can do BOTH in the potty, you get the prize. I took them to the bathroom EVERY HOUR to let them try and go..and I sat right there with them while they did..We made up pottie jokes..Kids like corney jokes..One of my sons said this.."Mommo, how does a bunny go pottie?...In an easter egg"..which was preceded by his hysterical laughter..I just rolled my eyes and pretended it was the funniest thing I'd ever heard..It really didn't take long at all-but I was exhausted..and of course-once the switch to underpants took place-I still used diapers at night..if the diapers were dry in the morning, I'd try to go all night in the underpants..use caution, and use a plastic bed cover under the sheets..they'll get it eventually. Just make sure you have a quick change of sheets/blankets and jamies ready Just in case he has an accident in the middle of the night and wakes up.
welfareloser
10-09-2002, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by DarkFury
I feel your pain.... I'm going through this as well.
What worked for us is... you gotta take the diaper off him. Yeah... he'll mess up a couple of times, but eventually he won't like the "feeling" of being wet/soiled in his undies...
sigh...
i tried that.
you have no idea the depths of some kids' stubbornness.
i used to be one of those peope who looked down on the "lazy" parents who didn't bother to potty train until their kids were like, three. what awful parents!!!
my kid has a lot of self control and intelligence... AND HE'S DEVOTING IT ALL TO PEEING ANYWHERE BUT THE POTTY.
so i took the diapers away. put eg in the big boy undies. got him to pee successfully in the potty a couple of times by sitting him on it every half hour for a couple of minutes and rewarding him with massive congratulations and candy. then he starts asking "mom... where's my diapeys?" i said nope, you're a big boy in the big boy undies. you pee in the potty now! yay!
the clouds pass over his face.
"i don't WANNA pee in the potty!"
and by god, he hasn't since. he pees in his undies, and you can tell how nasty he thinks it feels, but he still does it.
i went so far as to let him run around for a day or two wearing nothing below the waist, so i could catch him the second he started peeing and slam his butt on the potty... and every time, he immediately stopped the flow of urine cuz NO WAY WAS HE DOIN IT IN THE POTTY. so i made him sit until he peed, because eventually he would ahve to do it. and by god, after and hour and a half, it's past dinner time, he's holding it, tired, hungry, and it's time for bed. or he'll wiggle and jump till he can fling his lil capn up high enough that he can pee out of the potty. (i'm sorry, i am no longer capable of winning a fistfight with a 40-lb psychopath.)
i have the potty books... the story books for him, the how-to manuals for me. i have the time. i have the patience. i have had him stay a few days with older toddlers that he WORSHIPS and emulates in every respect, to watch them use the potty... he doesn't want to do it. i know every technique in every book and have tried them all for at least a week.
we are now two months short of the big birthday number three, and he's still winning. he's very articulate and creative about various reasons why peeing in the potty is unacceptable. he will pee outdoors, his aim is marksman quality, his self-control is better than most adults. he has all the skeelz. he just won't. the only way for me to win is to resort to extreme punishment, and i'd rather have him in diapers for a bit longer. as vicki iovine (the author of the girlfriends' guides, including the girlfriends' guide to toddlers) says, there is nothing more effective in curbing undesirable behavior in a toddler, from ball-grabbing to booger-eating to diaper-peeing, than another toddler at preschool or on the playground ridiculing him for it.
point being, i feel your pain and then some, kim. and i never judge other parents as inadequate unless they are actually lighting their kids on fire.
and, to answer your original question... my friend evilredhead said i could send evilgremlin to her for a week and she'd send him back potty-trained. i jsut might take her up on it... i won't hold out too much hope of success, tho... she made that offer before she saw him in action... and after seeing his dedication to the cause, she was pretty amazed, and hasn't made the offer since :bawl:
chrissy
10-09-2002, 04:14 PM
I had a friend that had the same problem. Her girlie wouldn't go potty. And she was to the point where WL is at right now.
So, she gave up. Told the kid that she wasn't going to help anymore. Handed her the diapers and wipes and said you do it, or you can do it this way and handed her undies too.
And she stuck to it. For a week (baths every night :) ) that three year old changed her own. Waiting and asking for mom's help and recieved none. It killed my friend, but at the end of the week, the girlie was ready for undies. "mommy, this is much easier" she said.
:shrug:
You just have to find what works with your kid.
Me, I am staying out of it. I waited until spring and took the kids outside in an oversized tshirt and undies with the potty and spent my time outdoors so I wouldn't have to clean up the accidents. It was easy for both of mine. But I have seen the horror of the Potty and I will not say it's a breeze until I am done.
I'm awfully glad I posted today....let me tell ya I had actual visions of him being in diapers at college. I don't get why a child who can name every tool in dad's tool box and swear like a sailor (thanks daddy)can't tell when he needs to pee. :confused: WF, we can be moms-with-three-year-olds-in-diapers together. Good luck to us both!!
Anyway, we took off the pullups today, and only had one accident so far. Of course, setting the timer every hour has helped. *sigh* What's a few more grey hairs.
Jenny
10-09-2002, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by Kim
I'm awfully glad I posted today....let me tell ya I had actual visions of him being in diapers at college. I don't get why a child who can name every tool in dad's tool box and swear like a sailor (thanks daddy)can't tell when he needs to pee. :confused: WF, we can be moms-with-three-year-olds-in-diapers together. Good luck to us both!!
Anyway, we took off the pullups today, and only had one accident so far. Of course, setting the timer every hour has helped. *sigh* What's a few more grey hairs.
Kim, the timer is a great idea. :) My friend (has twin 2 3/4 year old boys) has hers set for every 30 minutes. :heh: But it seems to be working.
And please remember, PHYSICALLY he may not be ready. Seriously. They have to be physically ready before they can do it. Even if they want to. He doesn't want to, so I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't physically ready. :)
And damn, I hope Burzhui was kidding. Although I wouldn't doubt it if he was serious...
WhiskeyPapa
10-10-2002, 07:00 AM
My wife handles most of the potty training, since she with them all day. We give them lots and lots and lots of water all day, so they learn what it feels like to have to pee. It seems to work for us, most of the kids are trained within 2 weeks.
Our five-year-old girl was the easiest. When she was two, we filled up the "wetsy betsy" doll, showed her how it pees in the potty chair, and that was it. She never needed a reminder or anything, she just started using the potty chair from that moment.
mcs328
10-10-2002, 07:16 AM
Originally posted by Kim
but can I send my son to someone to potty train? This kid is SO stubborn! Does anyone know if they make diapers for high schoolers??
:angry:
I kinda confused...ur son is in high school and can't go pee or poopie without diapers??? Or are you talking about, at this rate they'll need to make diapers for high schoolers??
:confused:
Originally posted by mcs328
I kinda confused...ur son is in high school and can't go pee or poopie without diapers??? Or are you talking about, at this rate they'll need to make diapers for high schoolers??
:confused:
Hey, I'm not THAT old! ;) No, he's about to turn 3.
Merlin
10-10-2002, 09:29 AM
GAM,
Please give everyone here a timeout for blatently violating forum rules.
No Potty Threads, sig sizes and more
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Threads pertaining to bowel movements, poop, crap, piss, feces, and anything related to them are not permitted. Links to grotesque pages are also not permitted. Please spend your time discussing other things.
If this does not qualify as a potty thread then I can't imagine what would :hihi:
attgig
10-10-2002, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by Burzhui
hey if the kid poops himself let him roll around in it until he gets sick of it and starts crying then pretend like you don't care, he'll figure out that he shouldn't do it.
hehehe
sounds like how my friend's mom trained their dog...
whenever the dog pooped in the house, the mom would make the dog sniff his own poopy - hold its nose in the poop for 5-10 seconds...
after a couple times, the dog was scared after it pooped and hid. a few more times, and it stopped.
As for kids? my pastor's 3rd kid took a long time getting all potty trained. What REALLY sucked was that he would poop in the house in random places.... once he pooped on top of an airconditioner vent :P then, the grandma came over and saw the poop and thought it was a toad...and she freaked out :P
hhehehehehe, still cracks me up :P
Maybe we need some links to potty training sites. Then we would qualify.
brainsmile
10-10-2002, 09:57 AM
maybe it would be helpful to add at what age your child was potty trained.
brainsmile
10-10-2002, 09:59 AM
does he have any interest watching you go to the bathroom to pee or poop?
Originally posted by welfareloser
sigh...
i tried that.
you have no idea the depths of some kids' stubbornness.
i used to be one of those peope who looked down on the "lazy" parents who didn't bother to potty train until their kids were like, three. what awful parents!!!
my kid has a lot of self control and intelligence... AND HE'S DEVOTING IT ALL TO PEEING ANYWHERE BUT THE POTTY.
so i took the diapers away. put eg in the big boy undies. got him to pee successfully in the potty a couple of times by sitting him on it every half hour for a couple of minutes and rewarding him with massive congratulations and candy. then he starts asking "mom... where's my diapeys?" i said nope, you're a big boy in the big boy undies. you pee in the potty now! yay!
the clouds pass over his face.
"i don't WANNA pee in the potty!"
and by god, he hasn't since. he pees in his undies, and you can tell how nasty he thinks it feels, but he still does it.
i went so far as to let him run around for a day or two wearing nothing below the waist, so i could catch him the second he started peeing and slam his butt on the potty... and every time, he immediately stopped the flow of urine cuz NO WAY WAS HE DOIN IT IN THE POTTY. so i made him sit until he peed, because eventually he would ahve to do it. and by god, after and hour and a half, it's past dinner time, he's holding it, tired, hungry, and it's time for bed. or he'll wiggle and jump till he can fling his lil capn up high enough that he can pee out of the potty. (i'm sorry, i am no longer capable of winning a fistfight with a 40-lb psychopath.)
i have the potty books... the story books for him, the how-to manuals for me. i have the time. i have the patience. i have had him stay a few days with older toddlers that he WORSHIPS and emulates in every respect, to watch them use the potty... he doesn't want to do it. i know every technique in every book and have tried them all for at least a week.
we are now two months short of the big birthday number three, and he's still winning. he's very articulate and creative about various reasons why peeing in the potty is unacceptable. he will pee outdoors, his aim is marksman quality, his self-control is better than most adults. he has all the skeelz. he just won't. the only way for me to win is to resort to extreme punishment, and i'd rather have him in diapers for a bit longer. as vicki iovine (the author of the girlfriends' guides, including the girlfriends' guide to toddlers) says, there is nothing more effective in curbing undesirable behavior in a toddler, from ball-grabbing to booger-eating to diaper-peeing, than another toddler at preschool or on the playground ridiculing him for it.
point being, i feel your pain and then some, kim. and i never judge other parents as inadequate unless they are actually lighting their kids on fire.
and, to answer your original question... my friend evilredhead said i could send evilgremlin to her for a week and she'd send him back potty-trained. i jsut might take her up on it... i won't hold out too much hope of success, tho... she made that offer before she saw him in action... and after seeing his dedication to the cause, she was pretty amazed, and hasn't made the offer since :bawl:
Grimm
10-10-2002, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by welfareloser
... my friend evilredhead ...
That is a redundant name welfare... all redheads are evil. They are issued Union of Evil cards at birth.
I am generaly against exposing a child to the mindbending refered to as "therapy". But in this case it might be appropriate. Your child has an unreasonable fear of using the potty. The root of that fear needs to be found and dealt with. Maybe he has the impresion it is bad to put anything in the potty. Has he ever been punished for flushing something?
Jenny
10-10-2002, 04:50 PM
My son was potty-trained right after he turned 3. Like a month or so after. So Kim isn't that far behind. ;)
Actually, I'm pretty sure that the normal age for potty-training is 3. So... I wouldn't worry yet. :)
welfareloser
10-10-2002, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by Grimm
I am generaly against exposing a child to the mindbending refered to as "therapy". But in this case it might be appropriate. Your child has an unreasonable fear of using the potty. The root of that fear needs to be found and dealt with. Maybe he has the impresion it is bad to put anything in the potty. Has he ever been punished for flushing something?
nope... he finds my use of the potty appropriate. he likes to blow his nose and flush the tissues. he just ain't about to do his bidness there. df: he will emulate older kids, but not on this potty bidness...
jujubees
10-10-2002, 06:31 PM
My brother also wasn't potty-trained until he was three. He used to view flushing as a dangerous activity and refused to sit on top of the potty. He eventually told us that he thought we'd trick him into sitting on the toilet and flush him into it. :heh:
Good luck, Kim! It will happen ... just think baby steps. :)
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