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Leon
10-10-2002, 05:29 AM
If you are one of many people trying to decide which one to get, hopefully, I can help you out. A lot of games sites have reviewed both and liked both. However, I haven't seen any head to head reviews as of yet. I just played two games of NBA2K3 and a single game of Live 2003, and can give a brief overview of both.

They are both pretty good games, but they are so different from each other, that you can buy both and not feel like you just wasted your money on buying two basketball games.

NBA2K3: Like the previous 2K titles, it is solid is extremely realistic. I popped in the disc and set the difficulty on "pro" which is the 2nd level (there are three levels of difficulty total). 5 minute quarters are default. I chose to be the LA Lakers and I played against the NY Knicks. My goodness, that game was HARD! NBA2K3 is about setting up plays and strategy. You cannot use Kobe and just blow by your opponents all the time. You can use your crossover to juke them, but it's not 100%. You will need to use pretty much everything at your disposal like fakes, posting up, give 'n go, crossovers, steals, etc. in order to win. The final score was something like 48 to 49 Lakers. I won by a three point clutch shot from Kobe with the clock going to zero. Pretty exciting, I must say. Kobe was my top scorer with around 17 points.

The graphics were nice and clean and bright. They were pretty much like the ones from NBA2K2 on the PS2, except with better detail. The sound was in Dolby Digital 5.1 and it did sound like I was in an arena. The commentators were decent. Pretty much the same from 2K2.


Live 2003:
Next, I popped in the Live 2003 disc. They got some big name artists to provide the music. I personally don't care about those things. Nice touch, but it's all about gameplay. I started an exhibition game and thought, "look, I barely won in 2K3, so let me choose a crappy team for the computer." So it ended up being Memphis versus the LA Lakers. The difficulty was set at "pro" again which is the 2nd level of difficulty (Live 2003 has 4 levels of difficulty). How was the gameplay? Well, I think these endgame stats will tell you that.

Stats`````````Memphis````````Los Angeles
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Points````````54`````````````105
Bench`````````0``````````````0
FG````````````22/61``````````51/59
FG%``````````.361```````````.864
3FG```````````6/30```````````1/3
3FG%``````````.200```````````.333
FT````````````4/7````````````2/2
FT%```````````.571```````````1.000
Reb```````````4``````````````27
Off```````````0``````````````0
Def```````````4``````````````27
Blocks````````3``````````````13
Steals````````7``````````````14
Assists```````15`````````````35
Turnovers`````18`````````````19
Fouls`````````4``````````````4

Umm, yeah... The player of the game was Kobe with 80 pts with 39/42 shooting. 95% of those were dunks. Oh, he also had 8 blocks. This is with 5 minute quarters, guys. So does Live 2003 suck? No, but it is very different from 2K3. It's more of an arcade basketball game. The game's pace is so fast that The Flash wouldn't have been able to keep up.

EA Sports introduced something I thought was quite clever in LIve 2003. They call it "Freestyle Control." Basically, you use your right analog controller to control things like dribbling, and posting up, and some defensive moves. For example, if you wanted to try some killer crossover moves, you would move the right analog stick from side to side quickly. Pull the stick back and you will step back quickly. Tap it forwards and you will fake a step. I thought that it was a pretty ingenious idea that really gives you a lot of control over your players.

The graphics were a little softer than 2K3, so it didn't look as crisp. That doesn't mean Live had inferior graphics, but it was a little different. The sound is also in Dolby Digital 5.1 and the commentators were a little bit for lively than the ones in 2K3.


Overall Which one should you get? It really depends. If you liked 2K1 and 2K2, you will like 2K3. Visual Concepts went out of their way to create one of the most realistic basketball games ever programmed. The version I have is for the XBox and it does support online play, which is a huge plus. You can even download updated rosters if you sign up for XBox Live. Live 2003, sadly, does not support online play for the XBox.

NBA2K3 is best described as a basketball simulation, whereas Live 2003 is a basketball arcade game. You just gotta decide which one is best for you. If I had to only go with one, I would probably choose NBA 2K3.








Note: Remember, this is pretty much a "first impression" type of review. I haven't been able to play them both in depth.

gear02
10-10-2002, 06:54 AM
Great job Leon! I've only played NBA Live 2003, but I've played virtually every other EA or Sega basketball game, so I'll chime in on NBA Live 2003.

I must agree, it's far from a simulation. It seems you can score on a whim in this game. It's bordering on arcade-ish. Yet, even as you blow by for your 30th dunk of the QUARTER, it's still amazing fun do to it. The freestyle control is a blast and it revolutionizes the basketball game genre. It's intuitive to use and fun to play around with.

There are points to pick on though, the out of bounds situations are poorly managed. The computer will go out of bounds when they try to chase down a blocked shot. If you try to do those freestyle moves on the end line, you'll probably step out too.

There are some small things like this, but overall this game is a blast!

There's no way you can go wrong by getting either one of these, unless you decide to get a third one like NBA Shootout or something. If you can't decide which one you want, just either rent both or go to a store that allows open returns like EB.

CornMonkey
10-12-2002, 02:21 PM
just wondering...

have you guys tried the custom players option? i have it on the GC and it seems that they give you WAY too many points for player's abilities. i get 3000+ points per player, meaning that i can have EVERY stat all the way to 100 with points to spare. is this a glitch? program error?

gear02
10-12-2002, 03:41 PM
yeah...they don't limit the number of points you can use on custom players. You have to do it yourself.

CornMonkey
10-12-2002, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by gear02
yeah...they don't limit the number of points you can use on custom players. You have to do it yourself.
right...myself... :shifty:

gear02
10-13-2002, 11:43 AM
That's why the Yao Ming I created has an overall rating of 97...

Not to mention me with a rating of 99...

yeah self control works =)

Leon
10-22-2002, 08:49 AM
After playing both NBA2K3 and Live 2003, I would have to change my mind. I would now recommend Live 2003 over 2K3. The overall pace of the game is much faster and suits my tastes a little better. As far as it being too easy, bump it up a notch to level 3 difficulty and it gets harder exponentially. At that level you do have to do isolation plays and post up.

That being said, NBA2K3 is still a great bball game and having it support XBox Live is a huge plus. EA, are you listening here???