more proof that Afghans are mentally screwed up...

[Nanotech9]

watching a show on ABC...

this lady is interviewing two females... both wives of a 45yr old man... one of them was traded to this man because the family was indebted to him...

and the girl is only 10...

and also apparently this mentally twisted 45yr old man has "tried to have babies" with her... (thats teh way the lady interviewing worded it)...

Sick Basterd :angry: :angry: :angry:

and the father is even sicker for "trading" his 10yr old daughter to this guy just to get out of debt. :angry: :angry:

[NuTs62]

from what I'm learning in my Legacy of Asia class, that actually does happen .. or did happen alot back in the days.. :disa:

[attgig]

oh, but isn't that just cultural...
and it's ok, because who are we to judge?
:rolleyes:


http://www.gotapex.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=50205

[Nanotech9]

there is NOTHING right about fusking a 10yr old girl.

ya'know... if we can judge weather or not countries can harbor terrorists, and if we can go in and take over a government just because we dont like it, then i think its safe to say we can also judge that its wrong to fusk someone that young.

[hang10wannabe]

the PC i hear sometimes on G|A kinda sucks... i hear alot "well culturally who are we to judge" and all this other rubbish (not to attack you at all attgig... ur cool... just lots of others say it alot too) about how we cant judge and stuff like that... i say that it is all wrong... any culture that uses human beings as a form of payment is just wrong... now there is the whole prostitution deal and i know the US has still to work this out, but any man who "tries to make babies" with a 10 year old should be shot... common sense people... i think sometimes that these cultures blind themselves with that culture... just like terrorists using their beliefs in the wrong way to justify terrorism... just pisses me off sometimes... sometimes i think we need to take a lot of these messed up people and thin out the gene pool :angry:

[sho.gun]

Originally posted by hang10wannabe
the PC i hear sometimes on G|A kinda sucks... i hear alot "well culturally who are we to judge" and all this other rubbish (not to attack you at all attgig... ur cool... just lots of others say it alot too) about how we cant judge and stuff like that... i say that it is all wrong... any culture that uses human beings as a form of payment is just wrong... now there is the whole prostitution deal and i know the US has still to work this out, but any man who "tries to make babies" with a 10 year old should be shot... common sense people... i think sometimes that these cultures blind themselves with that culture... just like terrorists using their beliefs in the wrong way to justify terrorism... just pisses me off sometimes... sometimes i think we need to take a lot of these messed up people and thin out the gene pool :angry:

Well for one, I'm sure FCKGWing a 10 year old girl is definitely not part of any type of culture. Using humans as a form of payment IS a part of some cultures in the world, heck we did it back in the early days of America in the form of slave trading. The man sure is twisted by doing that, but I'm pretty damn sure I heard more than one of such stories coming from here in the US. Btw:

http://www.lemonizer.com/uploads/usetheperiod.jpg

[sho.gun]

I'm sure not ALL Afghans are like this, most of them are just trying to live normal lives. I don't see why one must hate an entire country just because of terrorism, the fact is that not every Afghan is a terrorist and not every Afghan is mentally screwed up. That is all.

[xsiled2]

Originally posted by Yossarian
:eek:
hes IS capable of thought and intelligent posts :eek2:


are you? :D j/k don't wet ur panties


any who, another reason to go to war :D

[Nanotech9]

Originally posted by sho.gun
I'm sure not ALL Afghans are like this, most of them are just trying to live normal lives. I don't see why one must hate an entire country just because of terrorism, the fact is that not every Afghan is a terrorist and not every Afghan is mentally screwed up. That is all.


did you even READ my post...? this has NOTHING to do with terrorists...


and whats REALLY screwed up... Afgan law states that Trading the girl like that is illegal, and that the 45yr old perv beating her is illegal, but doesn't have a problem with him screwing her.

i understand that its a different culture, but still, if ANYTHING stuff like this would be a GREAT humanitarian cause, instead of tree hugging or animal saving.

[sho.gun]

Originally posted by Nanotech9



did you even READ my post...? this has NOTHING to do with terrorists...


and whats REALLY screwed up... Afgan law states that Trading the girl like that is illegal, and that the 45yr old perv beating her is illegal, but doesn't have a problem with him screwing her.

i understand that its a different culture, but still, if ANYTHING stuff like this would be a GREAT humanitarian cause, instead of tree hugging or animal saving.

I know... but I'm just tired of people generalizing every middle easterner these days. You're right, your post had nothing to do with terrorism and I don't even know if it's such a good idea to bring up the matter in this thread. The reason I posted that reply is because after posting my first reply I was looking at all the threads and the words "more proof that Afghans are mentally screwed up..." just kinda sticks out. I mean what if someone of an Afghani descent were to visit the forum and read that, I'd think he/she'd be offended. Anyway, my point is that not all Afghans are bad people and shouldn't be thought of as such.

[hang10wannabe]

Originally posted by sho.gun
I'm sure not ALL Afghans are like this, most of them are just trying to live normal lives. I don't see why one must hate an entire country just because of terrorism, the fact is that not every Afghan is a terrorist and not every Afghan is mentally screwed up. That is all.

i think ur pullin stuff out of ur arse... no one ever said the whole nation consists of terrorists nor did we say that we hate the country... and "im" saying that all of these (and i quote)

sometimes i think we need to take a lot of these messed up people and thin out the gene pool

"messed up people"... not the whole nation... and yes we did do that... but i must say that the middle eastern nation has been around for much longer than the US and we have learned from our mistakes bout the value of human life... they dont have such an excuse...

and i like three . instead of one b/c it helps me flow an idea :)

[hang10wannabe]

Originally posted by sho.gun
I mean what if someone of an Afghani descent were to visit the forum and read that, I'd think he/she'd be offended. Anyway, my point is that not all Afghans are bad people and shouldn't be thought of as such.

i dont think that way at all... i mean... look at shazia... shes grrreat... :D her and her cutness at the way that everything is funny and how shell keep on talking even if U (sho.gun) are not listening :P and arjun and our own boss... but need u go see the footage of what many afgans were doing when they got wind of the wtc tragedy? they were celebrating... now i know they were a select few, but we know those few are out there... and those are the people talk about here... not the whole population, but a select few...

now think of the way middle easterners generalize "us americans"... <<thought provoking>>

[sho.gun]

Originally posted by hang10wannabe


i think ur pullin stuff out of ur arse... no one ever said the whole nation consists of terrorists nor did we say that we hate the country... and "im" saying that all of these (and i quote)


"messed up people"... not the whole nation... and yes we did do that... but i must say that the middle eastern nation has been around for much longer than the US and we have learned from our mistakes bout the value of human life... they dont have such an excuse...

and i like three . instead of one b/c it helps me flow an idea :)

I was vague I guess but I was talking about the title of the thread.

As for them not having an excuse I don't think that is true. For one their living conditions are totally different than ours, maybe if their economy is stronger, maybe if they have cars to drive, maybe if they even have a damn bank somewhere, maybe if they don't have to walk 2 miles to get drinking water... maybe they'll think about things the way we do. The only reason we value human life is because our society is based on order by the government who states that we are all equal. This brings me to the second reason, for a country that was ruled under the Taliban such equality does not apply. In fact an INequality was forced upon them and humans (especially females) are valued as nothing.

[sho.gun]

Originally posted by hang10wannabe


i dont think that way at all... i mean... look at shazia... shes grrreat... :D her and her cutness at the way that everything is funny and how shell keep on talking even if U (sho.gun) are not listening :P and arjun and our own boss... but need u go see the footage of what many afgans were doing when they got wind of the wtc tragedy? they were celebrating... now i know they were a select few, but we know those few are out there... and those are the people talk about here... not the whole population, but a select few...

now think of the way middle easterners generalize "us americans"... <<thought provoking>>

If the title said "more proof that a select few Afghans are mentally screwed up..." then I guess you're right.

About them celebrating, I'm sure every man's natural reaction to that is "WTF you aholes die." But you must also realize that to those people who are celebrating, the US is an enemy. In fact they have been raised ever since they are children believing that we are enemies. Now who's fault is that? The parents? I don't think so... because the parents were also raised by the same beliefs. It is in fact their government who is to blame. I mean if you were to raise your son telling him that carrots are bad for him, 15 years later he would still believe that carrots are bad for him UNLESS someone tells him otherwise.

In such a rigid communist-like government, there is absolutely no sources to tell the citizens the "otherwise" part. That is, no one is there saying "But hey guys... these Americans they're actually good people". No. All there are is a bunch of people constantly saying that the U.S. is evil, that we are against every single inch of the Koran and their religion... now given such circumstances I wouldn't be surprised that some will hate our country.

So what are we to do? Kill em all?

[hang10wannabe]

Originally posted by sho.gun

So what are we to do? Kill em all?

ahh good ol metalllica... but yea... u have some points... but i tragically went through Geography 150a... so i know that some (not all) of ur comments pertaining to the way they live are false... but yea... didnt know u were talking about the title... but much of the society dont know otherwise b/c they choose to and want to... :bandit:

[hapoo]

Thanks for the words sho.gun. :thumbup:
I'm not afghan but i still appreciate the words.

Yeah, that whole 10 year old girl thing is pretty messed up, and i hope they do something about it. There are screwed up people everywhere in this world unfortunately.

On a side note i wish all the countries who participated in kicking out the taliban would follow through and setup a decent government with some support. Isn't that was they promissed before they started the attacks? From what i hear, since the taliban was kicked out, opium production has risen 1400%!! Great, terrorists out, drug dealers in.

[psycho-]

I think Hang10 just completely MISSED ATTGIG's sarcasm. ATTGIG was being "un-PC" becuase he said that schoolgirl prostitution was wrong...and got bashed for it.


In any case. I hope people aren't being hypocrites in this thread. (only applies to those who responded to that thread)

[brain]

I'm not trying to justify the actions of this Afghan individual, but many years ago, people were married at the age of 10. Humans didn't have much of a life expectancy so they tried to procreate as early on as possible. SInce our life expectancy has far surpassed what it used to be in those days, it's no longer required that we find a mate by our early teens.

[hang10wannabe]

Originally posted by psycho-
I think Hang10 just completely MISSED ATTGIG's sarcasm. ATTGIG was being "un-PC" becuase he said that schoolgirl prostitution was wrong...and got bashed for it.


In any case. I hope people aren't being hypocrites in this thread. (only applies to those who responded to that thread)

well whether or not i was able to catch his sarcasm doesnt mean i didnt mean what i said... it still stands...

and i meant no hostility to attgig... hes in the coo dudeski handbook o greatness... :thumb:

:shifty:

[Grimm]

As far as marrying and raping (yes, it is rape) a 10 year old girl, that is truly screwed up.

But as far as condeming other cultures for something like that, don't assume that the culture in general approves of that. You can't expect someone to be unaffected by their bias. But you can challenge them into being aware of their bias, and considering it when they judge others.

So what would be worse? Giving your 10 year old daughter to someone you owe money to and could take care of her, or watching her slowly starve to death because you didn't have the money to feed your family? Sometimes you don't have the luxury of high moral standards, sometimes it's all you can do to survive and try to keep your family alive. Not that this is really the case, but it could be. Hold off your judgement untill you get all the facts.

[hang10wannabe]

Originally posted by Grimm
So what would be worse? Giving your 10 year old daughter to someone you owe money to and could take care of her, or watching her slowly starve to death because you didn't have the money to feed your family? Sometimes you don't have the luxury of high moral standards, sometimes it's all you can do to survive and try to keep your family alive. Not that this is really the case, but it could be. Hold off your judgement untill you get all the facts.

but how can u go against us without knowin all the facts urself? :confused:

[hapoo]

Originally posted by hang10wannabe


but how can u go against us without knowin all the facts urself? :confused:



I believe its called innocent until proven guilty. Grimms just giving an example, but he's right, we don't know the whole story. Screwing a little girl is still wrong IMO. Its not like the "husband" has to screw to stay alive himself.

[Ladogaboy]

Yeah, that reminds me of this other really f**ked up culture where it is okay for 30 year-olds to marry their 12 year-old cousins... Just sick if you ask me. Oh... wait... that's the U.S. :disa: