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kimchicowboy
12-02-2002, 04:00 PM
i saw a black one parked today. man, it looks sweet. a lot better than the sedan.

ArkiStan
12-04-2002, 03:29 AM
Just curious...How is the g35 related to the 350Z? (Not in terms of opinion, but rather genetics)

Cantacuzene
12-04-2002, 08:12 AM
A bit less power, a bit more luxury.

ArkiStan
12-04-2002, 08:22 AM
no relation at all? (ie. maxima and I series) cause they do look similar...sort of...

Cantacuzene
12-04-2002, 08:29 AM
The 350 and G35 are on the same platform and have the same engine.

ArkiStan
12-04-2002, 02:08 PM
thanks! that answered my question! ;)

Jihforce
12-05-2002, 11:46 AM
saw one yesterday too. Black. Very sweet. I think its better looking that the Z and definitively different the the sedan. Me want one now...:drool:

kevs
12-15-2002, 07:59 PM
I had a buddy test drive the G35 coupe. He said it rides real nice. As a matter of fact, he's already put down some cash for a silver G35 coupe, but he's not sure if he wants it.

I gave him a resounding "GO FOR IT!" :D

Jihforce
12-15-2002, 08:10 PM
http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/g35coupe/3.jpg
:drool:

Apex
12-15-2002, 09:51 PM
They have some great hi-res images here:

http://www.nissannews.com/?http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/infiniti2003/g35sportcoupe.shtml

kimchicowboy
12-15-2002, 10:59 PM
i read that this got motortrend's car of the year award, no?

Tommy Boomfiger
12-15-2002, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by Apex
They have some great hi-res images here:

http://www.nissannews.com/?http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/infiniti2003/g35sportcoupe.shtml whoa, really high res

guiseppewv
12-16-2002, 06:34 AM
I have an ALtima SE, which is very similar to the G35. I would get it. Take a look at the Altima too. I like the G35's interior but the Altima has a better looking exterior IMO. The engine on these cars rock!!!

Jihforce
12-16-2002, 09:40 AM
So are you planning to get the car Apex? :D

Apex
12-16-2002, 12:11 PM
The Altima is not a bad looking car. I think it definitely looks better than the g35 sedan.

http://www.nissannews.com/?http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/nissan2003/altima.shtml

I don't think I'd go back to front wheel drive though. I guess I've been on AWD and RWD for too long.

ArkiStan
12-16-2002, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by Apex
I don't think I'd go back to front wheel drive though. I guess I've been on AWD and RWD for too long.

What AWD have you driven?

Apex
12-16-2002, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by ArkiStan


What AWD have you driven?

Eclipse GSX (1st and 2nd gen), Audi A4, Skyline GT-R.

Tommy Boomfiger
12-16-2002, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by Apex
I don't think I'd go back to front wheel drive though. I guess I've been on AWD and RWD for too long. same here, i cant see myself getting a front wheel drive car. there are a lot of good FWD cars out there but BMW has spoiled me. at least vw/audi comes in AWD :hihi:

Jihforce
12-16-2002, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by Tommy Boomfiger
same here, i cant see myself getting a front wheel drive car. there are a lot of good FWD cars out there but BMW has spoiled me. at least vw/audi comes in AWD :hihi:

I agree. I'm not a huge car buff but driving a FWD and a RWR makes a huge difference. Now I have to try out an AWD. I haven't driven one of those yet.

kimchicowboy
12-16-2002, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by Apex

Skyline GT-R.
yeah baby yeah!

ArkiStan
12-17-2002, 06:05 AM
What are the benefits of RWD cars?

bachviet
12-17-2002, 07:06 AM
Originally posted by ArkiStan
What are the benefits of RWD cars?
Faster and better handling than FWD but you will spin more often on icy or wet road. AWD cars are the best for snowy states!

Jihforce
12-17-2002, 09:51 AM
Yup, that's why Subaru's sell very well in the northeaster states that I've been to. :)

bachviet
12-18-2002, 06:56 AM
I rode in my friend's brother's new 350Z Track Edition and it already has rattle sound (around 7000 miles). The ride is nice but a little stiff because of the sport suspension. He paid $38K out of the door I think!

rasetsu
12-27-2002, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by bachviet
I rode in my friend's brother's new 350Z Track Edition and it already has rattle sound (around 7000 miles). The ride is nice but a little stiff because of the sport suspension. He paid $38K out of the door I think!

$38 out the door for track? That's pretty damn good. My dad and I strolled into a Nissan dealer on Thanksgiving right before they were about to close. There was a black performance model w/nav system in the showroom with a $3K mark-up. The dealer offered to sell it at MSRP.

Anyone know if the DVD nav system can play regular DVDs?

Tommy Boomfiger
12-27-2002, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by rasetsu


$38 out the door for track? That's pretty damn good. My dad and I strolled into a Nissan dealer on Thanksgiving right before they were about to close. There was a black performance model w/nav system in the showroom with a $3K mark-up. The dealer offered to sell it at MSRP. if you buy a 350z from the dealer lot expect to pay markup until demand dies down. if you buy it at the dealer, but have it shipped from the manufacturer you will only have to pay sticker. this is better because you can get it in your color with your options. that is the best way to buy a 350z right now. if you go to a dealer and they say you have to pay extra for it still walk out.

rasetsu
12-27-2002, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by Tommy Boomfiger
if you go to a dealer and they say you have to pay extra for it still walk out.

Yeah, no kidding. A buyer should have that attitude no matter what car they buy. Look at all the suckers who paid a premium for the PT Cruisers when they came out. Dealers are now give $2K discounts on them. Even if I won the lottery, I don't think I would ever pay a dealer's mark-up for a car. I can't think of anything I want THAT bad as to let a dealer take an additional $3K from me on top of what they already make. All for what? Just so you can show your neighbors and friends that you're the first on the block to have that car? That's just ridiculous and a stupid way to spend money.

Universal Nissan along the 101 freeway across from Universal Studios here in CA has over 20 Zs in various trims and colors lined up. I think most dealers are more than willing to let them go at MSRP now, but are leaving the mark-up stickers on the window to let the buyer feel better about themselves by thinking they knocked $3K off the price.

nomoney
12-27-2002, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by bachviet

Faster and better handling than FWD but you will spin more often on icy or wet road. AWD cars are the best for snowy states!

Faster???? Dunno bout that one. Maybe because a lot of the high perf cars are RWD they are on average fast but the fact that they are RWD doesn't make em faster.

As far as better handling, it kinda depends on where you are driving, the way the suspension is set up, and the way the weight is distributed in the car (not just the drive wheels). FWD, RWD, and AWD cars all have different "attitudes". To answer the question of what makes them better, well that depends on where you drive and your driving habits.

PS: the nissan and infinity are the shizzle. i would love one as a weekend car.

Cantacuzene
12-27-2002, 05:43 PM
Yes faster. Its easier to push the weight than pull it.

nomoney
12-29-2002, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by Cantacuzene
Yes faster. Its easier to push the weight than pull it.

Interesting. Please explain your reasoning. So what would happen if you raced 2 cars with the same amount of power, same body shape, same amount of loss in drivetrain, etc? (Assuming no loss of traction because that is a suspension/tire setup issue) Would the RWD win because "it's easier to push the weight than pull it"?

/me thinks it would be a photo finish.

Apex
12-29-2002, 11:34 PM
There are a few issues that give RWD more of an advantage in most situations (though definitely not all):

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With RWD, you split the work each tire does. Front wheels steer, rear wheels provide the power. Each tire has only so much "grip," so with all things equal, you get more use out of all 4 of your contact patches with RWD.
When accelerating, weight transfers backwards. On FWD, this unloads the driving tires, causing wheelspin. On RWD, it increases your contact patch, and thus, grip.
During braking, weight transfers forward. Ideal weight distribution is 42% front, 58% rear, like on an F1 car. As weight transfers during braking, this creates a close to 50/50 distribution, and you get maximum usage out of all 4 of your contact patches. This is only likely to happen with mid (or rear) engine, RWD.
During hard cornering, again, you want all 4 contact patches to do maximum work. With FWD, the rear 2 patches tend to do a lot less than they are capable of. Also, it's difficult to balance a FWD car in the corners with your gas pedal, because the more you gas it, the more you tend to reduce the available traction for turning, and thus understeer.
Because of the way the drivetrain sits, it TENDS to be easier to have a lower sitting engine in a RWD car than front. This gives you a lower center of balance, for better handling.
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Of course, all things are never equal. There will be advantages and disadvantages with each drivetrain package/setup.

nomoney
12-30-2002, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by Apex
what he said...

Now there is the explanation. Sorry to get wordy but I just didnt like the explanations "they are faster" or "it is easier to push than pull".

I have been thinking about getting a WRX lately. AWD turbo w/that pancake motor would be really fun around a dirt corner at about 60. I really want the STi though.

Tommy Boomfiger
12-30-2002, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by PsillyPyro
would be really fun around a dirt corner at about 60. i dont think so :hmm:


im waiting for the sti as well. i still dont know if im going to get it, i have at least 4 other cars on my list right now and the sti is still the ugliest one

rasetsu
12-30-2002, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by PsillyPyro


Interesting. Please explain your reasoning. So what would happen if you raced 2 cars with the same amount of power, same body shape, same amount of loss in drivetrain, etc? (Assuming no loss of traction because that is a suspension/tire setup issue) Would the RWD win because "it's easier to push the weight than pull it"?

/me thinks it would be a photo finish.

Hmmm...based on those stats, I might even venture to say that the front wheel driver might even be faster if both cars produce the same amount of power as the RWD will suffer more drivetrain loss because of the longer transaxle.

I've heard that "easier to push it than to pull it" theory before and that seems to be the case for human power, but I haven't heard it explained in terms of the physics of it when applied to cars.