View Full Version : A matter of perspective (or, trying to look at things differently)
Patience. I'm far better than I used to be in this regard, but it's still not a strong suit of mine.
Remember my "fast forward" question? Well, I'm the fast-forward type. I want to see what happens next, NOW.
We finally kissed last night, and of course my mind is reeling and loaded with questions and possibilities.
I'm trying to look at it philosophically. Setting a goal and achieving it is a nice natural high. It's only human to want more of that. My knee-jerk reaction to that desire is to want to fast-forward, so to speak, to accomplish the next step to get more of that feeling. Of course, this doesn't work very well in practice.
The perspective I need is one of reflection. Take a deep breath, look back at what's happened, and enjoy the moment before moving on. With life the way it has been until recently, I've gotten out of "enjoying the moment". Life is improving though, and so I need to readjust my perspective.
So that's what I'm doing today. Reflecting. Reflecting on the steps that brought me here, and enjoying the fruits of my efforts.
Just thought I'd share. :)
-OC
Merlin
02-20-2003, 11:03 AM
Right now I wish we had one of these :duh: with WTF on it.
nickel
02-20-2003, 11:26 AM
aw c'mon Merlin. OC was being deep and heartfelt. i think it is good to reflect and live in the moment sometimes. LIKE SLOW DOWN. everything is so fast-rush-fast. chillin is a good thing. :)
zenbooty
02-20-2003, 11:26 AM
Dude, just get on with it and bang her, already. Nothing kills the moment, or your chances, like "reflection" and too much thought in general. I've seen so many thoughtful people talk themselves out of getting laid. Live in the moment, be visceral for a change. Let the animal in you out! (and I don't mean just the one-eyed animal!). There'll be plenty of time to think and reflect after you've gotten your groove on. Until then, focus and strike when the moment is there!
nickel
02-20-2003, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by zenbooty
Dude, just get on with it and bang her, already. Nothing kills the moment, or your chances, like "reflection" and too much thought in general. I've seen so many thoughtful people talk themselves out of getting laid. Live in the moment, be visceral for a change. Let the animal in you out! (and I don't mean just the one-eyed animal!). There'll be plenty of time to think and reflect after you've gotten your groove on. Until then, focus and strike when the moment is there!
every kiss doesn't have to lead to banging, does it?
it was the first kiss. savor the flavor
whitak24
02-20-2003, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by zenbooty
Dude, just get on with it and bang her, already.
how did nija log in under zenbooty's account? :hmm:
eSDee
02-20-2003, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by zenbooty
Dude, just get on with it and bang her, already. Nothing kills the moment, or your chances, like "reflection" and too much thought in general. I've seen so many thoughtful people talk themselves out of getting laid. Live in the moment, be visceral for a change. Let the animal in you out! (and I don't mean just the one-eyed animal!). There'll be plenty of time to think and reflect after you've gotten your groove on. Until then, focus and strike when the moment is there!
:heh: I can't really say I agree, but that's funny.
OC, reflection is good, but don't dwell on it as your final accomplishment. Try to make the next steps as natural and pure as the one you just accomplished.
zenbooty
02-20-2003, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by nickelback
every kiss doesn't have to lead to banging, does it?
it was the first kiss. savor the flavor Since you're a girl, I will forgive you for this brief lapse in judgement :D .
No, not every kiss has to lead to banging. But from the male point of view, it would be better if every kiss did. ;)
zenbooty
02-20-2003, 11:44 AM
Well, unless you're kissing family members, or greeting Europeans, or kissing the pope's hand :heh:
nickel
02-20-2003, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by zenbooty
Since you're a girl, I will forgive you for this brief lapse in judgement :D .
No, not every kiss has to lead to banging. But from the male point of view, it would be better if every kiss did. ;)
you don't know me too well do you? :winkie:
zenbooty
02-20-2003, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by nickelback
you don't know me too well do you? :winkie: :confused: :confused: :confused:
Don't tell me your not a girl, now. I just don't need that kind of revelation at this point in my day.
chadlnc
02-20-2003, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by Merlin
Right now I wish we had one of these :duh: with WTF on it.
http://www.polleo.com/images/wtf.gif
welfareloser
02-20-2003, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by whitak24
how did nija log in under zenbooty's account? :hmm:
:heh: :heh:
there is a certain beauty to a long, slow build-up of anticipation... i can remember being in love with someone, and slowly realizing that the feeling was returned... one day there's a "look" ... a few weeks later, he goes out of his way to do something nice... within a few months, you're an "item."
i've never taken a relationship slowly, myself. if it's not worth doing balls-out (so to speak) then it must not be worth doing.
elapsed time from first kiss to first :naughty:
first love, at age 15....... 10 months
second love, at age 17....... 2 months
ftf fling, at age 26......... 1 hour
love of my life, at age 26... 5 minutes
good thing i'm quitting here, cuz the next guy would get laid before getting kissed :hmm:
mcs328
02-20-2003, 11:53 AM
Can't you kiss and bang, bang, bang THEN reflect? :P
welfareloser
02-20-2003, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by nickelback
every kiss doesn't have to lead to banging, does it?
it was the first kiss. savor the flavor
what good is a romantic kiss if it DOESN'T lead to banging?
nickel
02-20-2003, 12:05 PM
a kiss at your doorstep after a first date should lead to an invite in for sex? i don't think he'll respect you much in the morning.
In case anyone is wondering, this isn't angeleyes. And I hope it goes without saying that I want things to go further.
Some women you just want to bang. With others you want more. This one is in the second category.
-OC
revil
02-20-2003, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by overclocked
Some women you just want to bang. With others you want more. This one is in the second category.
Why can't you have both?
faither
02-20-2003, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by welfareloser
what good is a romantic kiss if it DOESN'T lead to banging?
Amen, sister. Can I send you my wife's e-mail address. :D
topane
02-20-2003, 12:58 PM
OC, it's good you seem so happy. Do whatever you're comfortable with. And if/when you get that far, call out my name.
Jenny
02-20-2003, 01:08 PM
If I know oc like I think I do (& I could be way off. ;) ), here's what I think he is feeling and what he means...
He really thinks there is a potential for this relationship to go somewhere. He wants to take it slow to see if the romantic feelings are there, rather than just the sexual attraction & the need to bang bang bang. Rather than just wanting her to be a girlfriend that he gets to have sex with, he wants to see if this could turn into something permanent, in which case, why rush the sex? Let the feelings develop first.
Now, my personal thought for everyone. When did premarital sex become so common place that no one ever thinks anything about it? No, I didn't wait til I was married. But looking back, I wish I had. I know my hubby feels the same about himself. :shrug: I dunno. Just a thought I had.
zenbooty
02-20-2003, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by overclocked
In case anyone is wondering, this isn't angeleyes. And I hope it goes without saying that I want things to go further.
Some women you just want to bang. With others you want more. This one is in the second category.
:disa:
I hate to say it, but these sound like the famous last words of "just a good friend," if you know what I mean.
revil
02-20-2003, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by Jenny
He wants to take it slow to see if the romantic feelings are there, rather than just the sexual attraction & the need to bang bang bang.
"I don't want no relationship! I just want bang bang bang!"
Merlin
02-20-2003, 01:14 PM
Without a doubt...this is my favorite thread of the day.
Merlin
02-20-2003, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by welfareloser
what good is a romantic kiss if it DOESN'T lead to banging?
Right on! I knew I liked you for a reason. And is it just me or does something seem quite wrong to have nickleback being the prude of the thread. :P
whitak24
02-20-2003, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by Merlin
Right on! I knew I liked you for a reason. And is it just me or does something seem quite wrong to have nickleback being the prude of the thread. :P
she must have been embarrassed by the "nickelback, why the fire down below?" thread last week :P
whitak24
02-20-2003, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by faither
Amen, sister. Can I send you my wife's e-mail address. :D
why do you need that? she's already supposed to be debriefing you. isn't that enough, or are you getting greedy today? :hihi:
:P
welfareloser
02-21-2003, 05:49 AM
i don't understand how sex should GET IN THE WAY of developing a deep and meaningful relationship. you can have sex after you've developed something meaningful, or you can have sex earlier, then develop something meaningful. if nothing meaningful develops, you knock it off, and you still got laid, so everybody's happy!
seriously. i'm not advocating sex on the first date with someone you hardly know if it makes you uncomfortable. but women who are following some dr-laura-oprah-cosmo-magazine rulebook in their heads to the point that they artificially restrain themselves from having sex when they really WANT to do it is just ridiculous. i understand not having sex with someone you don't know well enough to feel good about having sex with, or holding back for reasons of health, but holding back to make sure it doesn't "ruin the relationship" is just crap. sex improves relationships. that's what it's all about.
i think guys should run like hell from any woman who wants him to "prove" this and that and blah blah blah before she allows herself to bestow her sexuality on him. "yes, i really like you, and i really want to make looooove to you, but don't you think it would be more meaningful if we waited? i mean, like, will you still respect me, and stuff?" christ, she'll never be less of a pain in the ass than that, so why stick around?
again, if it's some thing where there are certain things a woman doesn't want to do before marriage, that's cool. or if the woman isn't sure how she feels yet, that's cool. but the rulebook artificiality is a BIG red flag of more stupidity to come.
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