Have you noticed...

[Cantacuzene]

...the amount of bad press Syria has gotten in the past 3 days? You'd almost think that are planning to go to another war. I wouldnt put it past them at all. If you think anti-war protestors are bad now, wait until we start making threatening motions to Syria.

[gear02]

Originally posted by Cantacuzene
...the amount of bad press Syria has gotten in the past 3 days? You'd almost think that are planning to go to another war. I wouldnt put it past them at all. If you think anti-war protestors are bad now, wait until we start making threatening motions to Syria.

Yeah...I thought the same thing. Then after Syria, we'll go after France or someone until no one is left but us and Canada...


...then we'll conquer Canada...mwhahahahahah

[topane]

Originally posted by gear02
...then we'll conquer Canada...mwhahahahahah I thought Canada was a state.

[Joshua]

I think it's actually a Posession... Kinda like Puerto Rico!


Originally posted by topane
I thought Canada was a state.

[eSDee]

Originally posted by Cantacuzene
...the amount of bad press Syria has gotten in the past 3 days? You'd almost think that are planning to go to another war. I wouldnt put it past them at all. If you think anti-war protestors are bad now, wait until we start making threatening motions to Syria.

They are already threatening Syria, not to mention cutting their oil supply. George W. is still looking for the dude who "tried to kill my daddy" and Syria is supposedly where he's kickin it. I wouldn't doubt if we sent the troops in there, which would be complete BS.

When is the election again? :rolleyes:

[sbp]

Now is the perfect opportunity to let terrorist supporting countries like Syria and Iran know they need to stop supporting terrorists. You can be sure these repressive regimes paid close attention to what happened to their brother Hussein.

With the astounding success of the fall of the rotten Hussein regime, pressure is being brought to bear on Syria. Syria permitted these dumbass jihadists to cross the border into Iraq and supported the dirty pos's. Syria has chosen to receive fleeing Iraqi leadership and has WMD also.

Have you noticed... how much crow the peaceniks have ate lately. :heh:

[sbp]

Originally posted by eSDeeLoco
They are already threatening Syria, not to mention cutting their oil supply. George W. is still looking for the dude who "tried to kill my daddy" and Syria is supposedly where he's kickin it. I wouldn't doubt if we sent the troops in there, which would be complete BS.That oil pipeline was illegal (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2951327.stm) and padded the pockets of the rotten Iraqi regime {so much for helping the Iraqi people}. But it should continue and there should be no consequences for Syrias bad behavior right? http://home.earthlink.net/~sbp777/pics/bleh.gif

Like trying to murder a former president wasn't a serious matter. :dodgy: That alone should have been enough to go after Hussein.

Even though I was no fan of Clinton, you can be sure if Hussein tried to have Clinton whacked I would support getting Husseins head on a platter. Why don't libs feel the same way? Guess its cause it was a GHB was a Republican. :rolleyes:


When is the election again? :rolleyes: Looking forward to another loss so soon? :P

Just imagine the whining about that! Anyone got an earplugs deal. :D

[K2]

Originally posted by topane
I thought Canada was a state.


:shifty:

u can take Quebec... thats about it.. we don't need them :P

[Grimm]

Here is a major difference. We had a mandate to go into Iraq, sure it wasn't a clear one, but Iraq had violated the UN agreement about weapons and behaviors. There is no such justification to go into Syria. Attacking Syria will result in the whole middle east believing we want to rule them all. It will get ugly, quick. Just mop up in Iraq, assist them in building the government they want, and get the hell out. Let the middle east deal with it's own problems. If Sadam shows his head in Iraq again, or a a leader anywhere else in the world, blow it off. If not, just stay out of that mess.

[sbp]

Originally posted by K2
:shifty:

u can take Quebec... thats about it.. we don't need them :P Package refused, return to sender.

http://sbp777.homestead.com/files/harleybiker.gif

[Memo]

Originally posted by sbp
Now is the perfect opportunity to let terrorist supporting countries like Syria and Iran know they need to stop supporting terrorists. You can be sure these repressive regimes paid close attention to what happened to their brother Hussein.

With the astounding success of the fall of the rotten Hussein regime, pressure is being brought to bear on Syria. Syria permitted these dumbass jihadists to cross the border into Iraq and supported the dirty pos's. Syria has chosen to receive fleeing Iraqi leadership and has WMD also.

Have you noticed... how much crow the peaceniks have ate lately. :heh:

has WMD also? Where are the Iraqi ones? We don't know if the fall of the regime was a success. The future of Iraq at the moment is unclear and we have only completed HALF of our objectives.

[K2]

Originally posted by sbp
Package refused, return to sender.

http://sbp777.homestead.com/files/harleybiker.gif

:bonk:

[Cantacuzene]

Lets hope the talks with North Korea and China we are having in the next few days are going to be handled with the same amazing tact and foreign policy skillz that this administration has shown in past actions. :rolleyes:

[TERRIBLETOM]

Syria, France, Russia and Jordan are all guilty of assisting Iraq in the weaponry. I think the problem may be that Syria is right next door and they continued to supply Iraq with night vision equipment during the war. And the fact that they first denied giving some Iraqi officials safe haven are now saying they will eject them from the country.

[Cantacuzene]

Say what you will about selling weapons to Iraq, but as far as I know there is no international law about selling conventional weapons to country. Just because we were at war with Iraq doesnt mean that Iraq is suddenly no longer a customer. What if countries stopped selling us weapons when we were at war?

[bachviet]

Originally posted by Cantacuzene
Say what you will about selling weapons to Iraq, but as far as I know there is no international law about selling conventional weapons to country. Just because we were at war with Iraq doesnt mean that Iraq is suddenly no longer a customer. What if countries stopped selling us weapons when we were at war?
When do you need to buy weapons from other countries? The only thing I could think of is the Harrier (sp???) from Britain.

[topane]

Originally posted by sbp
...
With the astounding success of the fall of the rotten Hussein regime,... The problem is, what is going to be in its place? The locals may be glad to be rid of Hussein, but that doesn't mean they're going to have a nice capitalistic democracy in its place. There's a lot of fundamentalist Muslims out there who have been repressed in Iraq for a long time. You can bet if they get control there's gonna be more fighting.

[xsiled2]

Originally posted by sbp
Package refused, return to sender.

http://sbp777.homestead.com/files/harleybiker.gif

HAHAHAHA! actually lets keep it... we will win the next olympics :D, french canucks kick ass at hockey

[hapoo]

Iraq went down without a fight cause almost everyone was against the government, but that wont be the case with any other countries in the region. I will personally raise hell if america tries anything with Syria or Iran (Especially Iran). Anyone care to mention a couple "terrorist" (by americas/isreals definition) association these countries support (ie hizbollah (http://www.hizbollah.org/) )? my shoulder hurts too much to type more.

[Cantacuzene]

Originally posted by bachviet

When do you need to buy weapons from other countries? The only thing I could think of is the Harrier (sp???) from Britain.

What country makes our wonderful cruise missles and the guidance systems for our smart bombs? You guessed it, South Korea. What if they disagreed with our war and decieded to not sell us any more cruise missles until the war ended? It wouldnt fly. There is nothign wrong selling conventional weapons to a country during a war, even if they are the "bad guys."

[xsiled2]

Originally posted by Cantacuzene


What country makes our wonderful cruise missles and the guidance systems for our smart bombs? You guessed it, South Korea.

prove it.

[Cantacuzene]

Upon further research, I discovered that we no loger rely solely on one country for our Cruise missiles. In fact Beoing and Lockheed now make some for us. However we still import much of our supply from Yugoslavia, Tawian and South Korea. In fact, many of the missiles we make we export, especially to Israel and a few other countries. Most interesting of all was that the computer guidance systems are still foreignly developed.

Aparently after Gulf War and then Kosovo we were running dangerously low on cruise missiles and we've now reconsiled it by expanding who we buy from.

[xsiled2]

i said prove it not give me your opinionated garble.

[TERRIBLETOM]

Originally posted by Cantacuzene
Upon further research, I discovered that we no loger rely solely on one country for our Cruise missiles. In fact Beoing and Lockheed now make some for us. However we still import much of our supply from Yugoslavia, Tawian and South Korea. In fact, many of the missiles we make we export, especially to Israel and a few other countries. Most interesting of all was that the computer guidance systems are still foreignly developed.

Aparently after Gulf War and then Kosovo we were running dangerously low on cruise missiles and we've now reconsiled it by expanding who we buy from. All the items you just mentioned are all developed, engineered and tested in this country then subcontracted out to other countries for assembly, just like GM vehicles.

[TERRIBLETOM]

Originally posted by Cantacuzene
Say what you will about selling weapons to Iraq, but as far as I know there is no international law about selling conventional weapons to country. Just because we were at war with Iraq doesnt mean that Iraq is suddenly no longer a customer. What if countries stopped selling us weapons when we were at war? I wonder what the bargaining chip was for all this war related technology, oil you think? Is this the same oil they were supposed to use for the "oil for food" program? Look where that all went.

[xsiled2]

Originally posted by TERRIBLETOM
All the items you just mentioned are all developed, engineered and tested in this country then subcontracted out to other countries for assembly, just like GM vehicles.

thats why i said prove it he has no proof that south korea developed any of it.

ever heard of Raytheon canta?

Precision Weapons
Tomahawk
Joint Standoff Weapon (JSOW)
Maverick
Paveway Laser Guided Bomb (LGB)
High-Speed Anti-Radiation Missile (HARM)
Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missile (AMRAAM)
Sidewinder
Enhanced Guided Bomb Unit-15 (EGBU-15)
Directed Energy Weapons

[Cantacuzene]

And what does your opinionated garble proof? Nothing more than mine does. Since websites are not legitimate sources of information its pointless to cite them as proof of anything. Unfortunately I dont have access to scholarly journals or databases from my home computer or I'd be more than happy to indulge you. I don't really feel like driving to campus and spending an hour in the library to prove a point to you.

[gear02]

Originally posted by xsiled2


HAHAHAHA! actually lets keep it... we will win the next olympics :D, french canucks kick ass at hockey

Nah...quebec is just a bunch of fools...

all the good players come from the other provinces:

Wayne Gretzky - Ontario
Chris Pronger - Ontario
Mario Lemieux - Quebec (well...ok...one)

btw you notice there's two threads inside this one. One humorous, referring to Canada's worth, and another that's pretty serious and, well...almost personal...

[le_stick]

Originally posted by xsiled2


thats why i said prove it he has no proof that south korea developed any of it.

ever heard of Raytheon canta?

Precision Weapons
Tomahawk
Joint Standoff Weapon (JSOW)
Maverick
Paveway Laser Guided Bomb (LGB)
High-Speed Anti-Radiation Missile (HARM)
Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missile (AMRAAM)
Sidewinder
Enhanced Guided Bomb Unit-15 (EGBU-15)
Directed Energy Weapons

All of the weapons mentioned above was not developed by the USA. We actually got them from the Asguard through the Star Gate. Since we all know the Asguards are technologically more superior then all other countries on Earth. Therefore.......:D

Seriously, all if not most of the weapons technologies are classified. So nobody actually really know for sure who designed them. Except for the fews who actually designed the weapon(s). Most of the informations we, the civillian, got are released by the government in one way or another.

[Merlin]

Originally posted by Cantacuzene

...There is nothign wrong selling conventional weapons to a country during a war, even if they are the "bad guys."

Actually in this case there is. Iraq launched a war of aggression when it attempted to annex Kuait 10 years ago. As a result the United Nations (the victors in that conflict) imposed certain restrictions on them. As the UN is the world's voice and everyone pretty much agreed on this then the sanctions should carry weight. So in this particular case selling weapons to Iraq is indeed "wrong" Note: there are certain things they could buy but it is my understanding that it excluded any advanced weaponery.

In general though I agree that selling weapons to someone in a fight is not necessarily bad. As a metter of fact it could be pretty good for business. :shrug:

[The Punisher]

How about we focus on off-shore oil as well as drilling for our own instead of buying it from the middle east. They'll crumble under their own dead weight. Perhaps then they'll focus on more important things than selling oil and building insane weapons to ensure the control of it.

[xsiled2]

Originally posted by gear02


Nah...quebec is just a bunch of fools...

all the good players come from the other provinces:

Wayne Gretzky - Ontario
Chris Pronger - Ontario
Mario Lemieux - Quebec (well...ok...one)

btw you notice there's two threads inside this one. One humorous, referring to Canada's worth, and another that's pretty serious and, well...almost personal...

first, pronger SUCKS

and have you ever seen this man before?

http://nhl.speedera.net/photos/mugs/8451033.jpg

oh yeah hes from quebec too ;)

[atomicdog]

Originally posted by The Punisher
How about we focus on off-shore oil as well as drilling for our own instead of buying it from the middle east. They'll crumble under their own dead weight. Perhaps then they'll focus on more important things than selling oil and building insane weapons to ensure the control of it.

This will never happen. Drilling for oil offshore is not typically an easy task. Of course there are also territorial disputes involved in who has rights to the oil. Just because it is offshore doesn't mean it's up for grabs. Also the fact is the Middle East just has a ridiculous amount of oil. I think conservative estimates of Iraq by itself say that it has 10 times as much oil reserves as the entire United States.

[TERRIBLETOM]

Seriously, all if not most of the weapons technologies are classified. So nobody actually really know for sure who designed them. Except for the fews who actually designed the weapon(s). Most of the informations we, the civillian, got are released by the government in one way or another. Well then can we agree they are all for the most part used exclusively by the US.

[le_stick]

Originally posted by TERRIBLETOM
Well then can we agree they are all for the most part used exclusively by the US.

Sir, yes Sir. all of those weapons are exclusively use by our military. I'm agree with you a 100%. I just tried to show the other person, Cant, that we all can argue to the end of our live we still cannot prove or disprove each other. Like thay said "majority rules," "might makes right."