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sho.gun
04-22-2003, 08:29 PM
You're probably thinking that I'm going to post some weird thing that doesn't even relate to my thread title, like i usually do... but this time:

http://www.discover.com/may_03/gthere.html?article=featoil.html

Isn't that cool?

NuTs62
04-23-2003, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by sho.gun

Isn't that cool?

Yep :cool:

JaQnAbOx
04-23-2003, 02:01 AM
interesting....i'd like to see how this thing really works

Speedfreak
04-23-2003, 02:27 AM
Well, thanks. I always wanted to know what a pile of Turkey pieces looks like:

http://www.discover.com/may_03/images/oil_1.jpg

speedracer120
04-23-2003, 03:03 AM
Wow, very interesting and promising.

Grimm
04-23-2003, 06:08 PM
But what will McDonalds use for Chicken McNuggets then???:confused:

I hope this really works. It's a chance for a lot of jobs and manufacturing to come back to the US. It really wouldn't be economical to export bulk waste and reimport it as oil. As the supplies needed to manufacture the oil will be very cheap, most of the $10 to $12 a barrel in cost would be in labor, that's US workers getting money to spend on fuel, housing, food and luxuries.

Bires
04-23-2003, 06:59 PM
The chemical engineering for this isn't that new. The trick is making the technology work for low enough $$ and energy use that the conversion is worth it. (Similar to hot fusion.)

Momma Kitty
04-23-2003, 10:00 PM
I know I'd sure like to see it get off the ground!

ArkiStan
04-24-2003, 01:59 AM
for the blind... :lick:

http://www.lemonizer.com/uploads/turkey guts.jpg

Speedfreak
04-24-2003, 02:30 AM
Thanks, Stan.. Ya, we needed that bigger.

InfiniteNothing
04-24-2003, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by Bires
The chemical engineering for this isn't that new. The trick is making the technology work for low enough $$ and energy use that the conversion is worth it. (Similar to hot fusion.)

What do you mean it's not new? The problem used to be that unless the material was quite dry, it would cost to much energy to dry off all the water. So here's where the new part comes in. Rather than making the heater more efficient (little gains) they used a process similar to freeze drying to dry out the guts and stuff (Huge gains). Then it's simple decomposition and separation

The problem with hot fusion isn't really that it costs too much energy, it's that it is too hard harness its energy. Basicly we can't slow it down like we can do with fission. It's simply too hard to control. The sun has a big advantage on us, a huge gravitational field to hold that huge nuclear explosion in check. Now if you wanted to make a small "sun" holding it in a magnetic field then you've got URL=http://www.iter.org/]ITER[/URL]

Sir_Froggy
04-24-2003, 10:38 PM
man....you science people are so smart....

and that picture is so gross, looks like a buncha worms and grubs and a shrimp on the left side

psycho-
04-24-2003, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by InfiniteNothing




The problem with hot fusion isn't really that it costs too much energy, it's that it is too hard harness its energy. Basicly we can't slow it down like we can do with fission. It's simply too hard to control. The sun has a big advantage on us, a huge gravitational field to hold that huge nuclear explosion in check. Now if you wanted to make a small "sun" holding it in a magnetic field then you've got URL=http://www.iter.org/]ITER[/URL]

Yep, it's a huge problem. my uncle works on that fusion stuff here (http://nstx.pppl.gov/)

RoniMan
04-25-2003, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by InfiniteNothing


What do you mean it's not new? The problem used to be that unless the material was quite dry, it would cost to much energy to dry off all the water. So here's where the new part comes in. Rather than making the heater more efficient (little gains) they used a process similar to freeze drying to dry out the guts and stuff (Huge gains). Then it's simple decomposition and separation


of course it's not new. doc brown put it into a delorean.

mojo
04-25-2003, 08:22 AM
started in philly...this is good news! uses garbage? we got plenny...and it seems to be on the streets and sidewalks :dodgy:

here's to hoping they harvest what's obvious to start with.

Apex
04-30-2003, 12:13 AM
And in related news... (http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,6355083%5E1702,00.html)

Grimm
04-30-2003, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by Apex
And in related news... (http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,6355083%5E1702,00.html)
Panda Poo Power?!?!?!:heh: :eek: :hmm: :P

guiseppewv
04-30-2003, 11:19 AM
Thanks for the article sho.gun !!!! It was good reading.

That would be awesome if their long term forecast for this technology was on the money. Could you imagine the US with 0 foreign oil dependence? The middle east would lose all of its power b/c we would not need their oil or at least we would need very, very little.