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sbp
04-25-2003, 07:57 PM
A group of Florida-based porn peddlers, penis enlargement and Viagra spammers has united to file suit against anti-spam organisations.

Under the newly-registered name EmarketersAmerica.org, a front set up by notorious spammer Eddy Marin's lawyer Mark E. Felstein, the suit seeks to force prominent anti-spam organisations to stop blocking their spam.

A long list of individuals and anti-spam organisations preventing bulk mailers from getting their spam out, including the UK-based Spamhaus Project and Spews.org, are listed in the suit.

The civil action law-suit, filed on April 14, seeks an injunction against anti-spam organisation on behalf of the plaintiffs. It also seek damages of $75,000 (plus interest and costs) against the defendants on five separate counts: blacklisting IP addresses of the plaintiffs, libel, invasion of privacy, the publication of allegedly false information and "intentional interference with a contract".

Steve Linford, of The Spamhaus Project, told us the law suit was without merit and purely motivated by an attempt to waste the time and energy of those fighting against the spam menace.

"Spammers will try anything. These lawsuits are intended to tie you up in defending it, wasting time and money," said Linford.

more here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/30368.html
another link: http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,110400,00.asp

"They're interfering with a contract between the members of our association, the tier-one providers, and the American people," says Mark Felstein, director of the trade group and the attorney who brought the suit. "I believe they're doing it for their own financial gain."

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Talk about brazen.

There's a contract to send out unsolicited spam? :rolleyes:

bachviet
04-25-2003, 08:23 PM
Spammers suck! :mad:

hang10wannabe
04-25-2003, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by DarkFury

Spammers suck with penis pumps... :mad3:

WORD brotha

and im talking those 12" pumps too

i wonder if they would have any support sueing the men and women we call "saviors from our over-dose of spam"

:hmm:

Speedfreak
04-25-2003, 11:14 PM
I think spammers also swallow.



How the hell do they think they can pull this off? There shouldn't be anything illegal about blocking spam.

NuTs62
04-25-2003, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by Speedfreak
How the hell do they think they can pull this off? There shouldn't be anything illegal about blocking spam.

It depends on who's the one blocking it. A form of censorship. I'd think of other reasons, but :shrug: I'll try and dig up a paper I wrote a few years ago.

Markel
04-27-2003, 08:39 PM
I would LOVE to see some major tough laws against spammers. One of them (at least) has been spoofing my email address as the source of his mailings, so all the "bounced" messages get returned to me. Grrrr! :mad3:

If anyone knows any surefire ways to fight back, I would be VERY interested. I have traced some of the web pages to some of the sources that they use and forwarded messages with complaints. But most of the sites they use work through servers in China, etc., and I'm not about to send complaints to them.

Jenny
04-27-2003, 10:09 PM
I'm so ****ing tired of spam! I usually have 30-40+ emails in my email box (well, in my MailWasher, so I don't actually download them) in the morning, and it is a guaranteed 98-99% or more is spam! Either porn, penis enlargement, vitamins & other medicines (including viagra), etc. It is so irritating.

My hubby works at an isp and is CONSTANTLY getting phone calls where the people are mad at THEM. They have spam filters set up, but there is just no way to get around some of it. *sigh*

coleslaw
04-27-2003, 10:29 PM
I'm really starting to hate this new trend that many spammers are using to bypass SPAM filters. Stuff like this:

H:A:R:D:C:0:R:E E:X:T:R:E:M:E - R:U:S:S:I:A:N:s S:H:O:C:K:I:N:G T:E:E:N:s !!

Yeah, so why can't someone devise a filter that would detect crap like this?

Or this?

Every global D0MAIN e x t e n s i o n can be r e g is t r e d here. Other sites c h a r g e twice the p r i c e for the same service.

That shouldn't be too hard to filter out, either...

:(

sbp
04-28-2003, 02:22 AM
Rise of the Spam Zombies (http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/30414.html)

Pressed by increasingly effective anti-spam efforts, senders of unsolicited commercial e-mail are resorting to outright criminality in their efforts to conceal the source of their ill-sent missives, using Trojan horses to turn the computers of innocent netizens into secret spam zombies.

"This is the newest delivery mechanism," says Margie Arbon, director of operations of anti-spam group MAPS. "I've been looking for it for a year, and in the last couple of months people have actually found Trojans that are doing it... They're carrying their own SMTP engines. Failing that, they install open proxy software."

One of those programs popped up last week. Named "Proxy-Guzu," when executed by an unwitting user the Trojan listens on a randomly-chosen port and uses its own built-in mail client to dash off a message to a Hotmail account, putting the port number and victim's IP address in the subject line. The spammer takes it from there, routing as much e-mail as he or she likes through the captured computer, knowing that any efforts to trace the source of the spam will end at the victim's Internet address.

nickel
04-28-2003, 09:46 AM
**SPAM OFF**
i am in the sick-of-it boat, too. i don't have a PENIS -- don't send me spam about how to enlarge it or get an old one hard. :rolleyes: :angry:

Grimm
04-28-2003, 10:03 AM
We should define spamming as a hostile terrost action. Then when someone inside the US does it we track them down and lock them up for 50 years. For people outside the us we can use smart bombs. Just kill them and everyone in the same building. That should discourage them.:dodgy:

nickel
04-28-2003, 10:04 AM
.....or we could just cut off their penis :thumbup:

Joshua
04-28-2003, 10:39 AM
Hey Nickel, can we do an experiment?? I've always wondered what would happen if a chick took Viagra. Could you pop one of those and tell me what standss up?? :P


Originally posted by nickelback
**SPAM OFF**
i am in the sick-of-it boat, too. i don't have a PENIS -- don't send me spam about how to enlarge it or get an old one hard. :rolleyes: :angry:

nickel
04-28-2003, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by SnotRocket
Hey Nickel, can we do an experiment?? I've always wondered what would happen if a chick took Viagra. Could you pop one of those and tell me what standss up?? :P



nah, i don't need any increased blood flow to that area.
find some other sucka :P