Help on price for new system....

[baggio248]

I was hoping someone could let me know if I am getting a good deal on this system. This stuff is about $1750.00 Is this too much for too little, any specfic changes I should ask for. I will probably ask for a better power supply of 450w or so.

Via P4PB w/usb 2.0 AGp8x Raid

P4 2.8/533

1GB Pc3200 DDR 400

MDI-AW Midtower ATX case with clearside

SPI ATX-300GT P4 power supply 300w

XP Pro OS

16X DVD rom

Plextor 48x24x48 cdrw

120 GB Ultra Ata 66/100 harddrive (7200RPM, 2MB)

ATI Radeon 9700 All In Wonder

Microsoft Optical wheel mouse

[TERRIBLETOM]

Did you check the prices out on the individual items at New Egg (http://www.newegg.com)

[skynet]

Wow 1750 sounds like too much for me. I am going to do a quick pricewatch run down. Number should be a bit crude, but good estimate.

$370 Pentium 4 2.8GHz with cpu, fan
$52 - PC3200 DDR 512MB
$52 - PC3200 DDR 512MB
$6 - 12X DVD
$38 - EIDE 48X24X48
$96 EIDE 120GB
$342 ATI All In Wonder 9700 Pro AGP 128MB DDR
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$956

That is your main stuff. I am suprised it was that high. I would not spend that much money on one system. But that is mainly because I have no money. I wonder the net value of my computer right now. I think if you shop around, check newegg they are great, you can get the system for about 1250-1500

[baggio248]

Thanks Skynet, I thought it sounded a bit high, but not really sure. One of my biggest problems with building it myself is i'm having trouble with compatibility issues. I read one thing then read something different on it. I would like to get the best system I can for a reasonable amount. I've talked them down, and gotten them to change it to a P4 3.06 and a 465w power supply for just around 1760, it's not that much of a change or deal. I doubt the those "new" features make it worth that much more.

[sbp]

The lower speed 800FSB P4's with are about to hit. There will be a price cut (http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20030415094537.html) then.

[NuTs62]

Just wait a little. And if you do know how to build your own system, I'd do that. 1750 is quite steep for that. I'd say buying retail parts, that would cost you around 1300 or so. And if you are planning to go Plextor, check out their website on the new 52x one, that can burn upto 1gb onto regular CD-Rs!

[bachviet]

I think that's a little too much for the setup you have there.

[eSDee]

Hey fellas I am getting ready to build my own computer using most of the parts that I already have(burner, dvd, hard drives,zip) and so I am thinking that all I will need is the case, motherboard, chip, and RAM. That P4 2.8 ghz looks like the best chip that I will probably be able to buy for the price, don't you think? If so, which motherboard would you guys recommend for it?

BTW baggio, I agree with these guys that is too much. If you want to save some money I would just try and find a way to have it built. Is this system one that someone is personally trying to sell or is it through a computer store?

[cheapchinese]

way too much, esp a price cuts just comming around the corner.

[baggio248]

Thanks to everyone for the advice. I think I will wait till the end of the month. My computer seems to be behaving currently after all the drama that it has caused. I know just a bit about computers. I'm not sure if I know enough to pick out the correct/compatible parts. I have the idea of what it is I want, it's just a matter of finding all the parts. I would like to get them all from one place and newegg.com seems like the place. I am very open to suggestions as far as the whole thing goes. I get the jist of buying the parts its the lingo that I don't get. I don't want to order the stuff, find out it's wrong/not compatible etc... I'm pretty sure if I take the time to read i'll figure it all out.

The place that I got the quote from is a place by my house that would build it to whatever specs I wanted.

[baggio248]

From newegg, this is what I came up with. Any corrections/suggestions/help. A handful of questions: What is OEM? Does the brand of RAM matter? If my case already has a power supply can I change it with this one? Should I wait till the 800 FSB is released? (What is that by the way?)I really don't know that much, so thanks for all the help.

ASUS Motherboard P4G8X DELUXE Retail $190

Intel Pentium 4 / 3.06GHz 512k 478 Pin Processor HT Technology 533 MHz FSB Retail $381

Apacer 512MB DDR PC3200 RAM 32X8 Samsung Original Chipset CL=3 - OEM $79.00

MAXTOR 120.0GB 7200RPM 2MB Cache Model # 6Y120L0 $114

ATI All-In-Wonder RADEON 9700 PRO 128MB DDR 8X AGP RETAIL $356

Pioneer 16X DVD-ROM Model DVD-120S Slot Load Drive OEM $47

Lite On 52x24x52 CDRW Model LTR-52246S OEM $46

Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 1 - OEM Full Version $143

Antec P4 ATX12V 450 Watt Power Supply With 2 Fans - Retail $71


For a grand total $1443.00
Microsoft Optical Wheel Mouse PS/2 & USB (New Color) Version 1.1a $16

[eSDee]

Shouldn't the p4 2.8 800 Mhz FSB be faster than the chip he listed above? If so shouldn't he go for that chip instead? It's cheaper :shrug:

[sbp]

Originally posted by eSDeeLoco
Shouldn't the p4 2.8 800 Mhz FSB be faster than the chip he listed above? If so shouldn't he go for that chip instead? It's cheaper :shrug: If I was building a system in the immediate future, the p4 2.8 800 Mhz FSB is the cpu I would get. It'll be a better bang for the buck than the P4 3.06 GHz and you save $100. I'd also get a 800FSB supporting mobo, likely one based on the Intel 865/Springdale chipset.

[sbp]

Originally posted by baggio248
A handful of questions: What is OEM? http://www.gotapex.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=510974#post510974

Does the brand of RAM matter?Yes, it does. Higher quality ram is less likely to cause problems like lockups and whatnot.

If my case already has a power supply can I change it with this one?Yes.

Should I wait till the 800 FSB is released? (What is that by the way?)FSB=Front Side Bus.

The P4 3.0Ghz 800FSB has already been released as has the highend Intel 875P/Canterwood chipset.

I would wait the short time until the rest of the 800FSB line shows up.

[baggio248]

How does this system sound? If anyone sees any problems with compatibility or , hard drive, RAM issues etc... could you help me out. Do I have the right XP OS? I'm not sure about the RAM. Or any other suggestions. The total is about $1670. I may still have to get a case. I'll probably wait a few more weeks for the prices to drop and the release of the new 3.2.

Intel Pentium 4 (800 FSB) Motherboard Model D875PBZLK Retail Chip Set 875P

Intel Pentium 4 / 3.0GHz 512k socket 478 Hyper Threading Technology 800 MHz FSB - RETAIL

Apacer 512MB DDR PC3200 RAM 32X8 Samsung Original Chipset CL=3 - OEM

MAXTOR 120.0GB 7200RPM 2MB Cache

ATI All-In-Wonder RADEON 9700 PRO 128MB DDR 8X AGP RETAIL

Pioneer 16X DVD-ROM Model DVD-120S Slot Load Drive OEM

Lite On 52x24x52 CDRW Model LTR-52246S OEM

Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 1 - OEM Full Version

Antec P4 ATX12V 450 Watt Power Supply With 2 Fans - Retail

Microsoft Optical Wheel Mouse PS/2 & USB Version 1.1a