Guess she was dirty

[sbp]

A Pomona, Calif., woman was arrested (http://www.startribune.com/stories/484/3902397.html) and charged with child endangerment after her 2-year-old daughter was found locked inside a running washer at a coin-operated laundry, police said.

Responding to an emergency call at Lucy's Laundromat in Pomona on Saturday night, police and fire units found the girl locked inside the washing machine.

Unable to pry the door open while the cycle was on, police used batons to smash the glass pane. With the help of a laundromat patron who reached through broken glass to hold the child's head above water, police pulled the girl to safety, said a Los Angeles County Fire Department spokesman.

Firefighters resuscitated the girl, who was taken to Children's Hospital of Orange County, where she was listed in serious condition, police said.

"She had not drowned yet, but she was on her way there," said Capt. Dan Ramirez, one of the firefighters at the scene.

He said the rescue was chaotic, with the laundromat filled with shocked patrons plus police and fire personnel desperate to save the girl.

The man who held the girl's head above water cut his arm on the glass. Paramedics stopped the bleeding, Ramirez said.

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,87816,00.html
Surveillance camera footage showed that the woman placed her daughter in one washer, then removed her and placed her in a second front-loading washer, which turned on when she closed the door, Stone said.

"I don't believe what the camera says," the girl's grandmother, Mary Osborne, told KCBS-TV

Friends and neighbors expressed shock and disbelief.

"She wouldn't do anything like that. That's not Erma," neighbor John Herring told the TV station. "She's a nice, loving mother who takes care of her kids."

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Righhhhtt :rolleyes:

[irwin]

That is so horrible. :mad:

[g222leav]

Originally posted by sbp

Surveillance camera footage showed that the woman placed her daughter in one washer, then removed her and placed her in a second front-loading washer, which turned on when she closed the door, Stone said.



if at first you don't succeed....

[Bires]

got|crazy ?

[hang10wannabe]

Originally posted by DarkFury
Time to put Momma UNDER the jail.... and far away from the prison laundry. :2far:

yea i agree... i heard that their wider in prison b/c of all the inmates demanding their share... of clean clothes...



:D

[Nanotech9]

if thats true, then yeah i agree with yall...

but theres a chance maybe the kid was throwing a fit, and not-so-bright mom thought that the washing machine would be a good place to make her kid stay in one place (kinda like making a kid sit in the corner).... except not-so-smart mom didnt realize the washer turned on when you close the door???....

pretty stupid either way.

[eSDee]

Sometimes kids need a good washin' :shrug:

:P

[ufcrusher]

Bet that kid wished she had just washed behind her ears like her mother told her before they went to the laundramat!

[brainsmile]

that's so terrible

[ArkiStan]

the kid was probably cursing.

[RoniMan]

Originally posted by ArkiStan
the kid was probably cursing.
beat me to it!

[guiseppewv]

What a stupid f-ing woman!!! What mother or father would do something like that? That lady has some serious issues.

[look_ma]

Question: Why didnt the cops just unplug the machine and or kill the power to that machine? Usually the fuse box is in the building in a very obvious spot.

[cheapie]

unbelievable. i have a kid that's almost 2 years old and i can't fathom doing anything like that. even when he's bad. that's incredible. if you're going to kill the kid, why would you do it that way anyhow. sheesh. shoot the yatch!

[g222leav]

Originally posted by DarkFury

Have you ever used a front loading washer? Please remember, this little girl was only 2 years old and the washer had already began filling with water...

Pretty much cutting the power would have stopped the washer, but the kid still might have drowned (since those units are programed to lock once the washing cycle begins...)

true true, we have a front loading washing and you hear it lock like 2 seconds after the water starts flowing...but i was more concerned that the broken glass would have smashed her face.

[Merlin]

Man, I want to say something about "a cleaning up of the gene pool" but can't figure out how to do it with out the bad pun.

[mcs328]

That is truly fubar-ish. Big jail time is on order.

[CynJon]

The cops should have used that woman's head to smash the glass...

[molecularfire]

Wait a minute... maybe I'm missing something here. Now... putting a kid in a washer doesn't sound that bad to me. I mean if she had stuff to do, and she couldn't watch the kid while doing it... sounds kinda logical to put the kid somewhere where it can't get around and hurt itself. Now... a front loading washer as long as it isn't turned on is a large area, with no sharp edges... Ok... it was pretty stupid of her to not know that it would turn on... but would a coin operated washer (I'm assuming thats that they have at laundromats) turn on if you didn't turn them on (the washer did turn on automatically, right or did she turn it on). Doesn't really sound like a malicious thing... Am I missing something here?

[BigJon]

Originally posted by molecularfire
... but would a coin operated washer (I'm assuming thats that they have at laundromats) turn on if you didn't turn them on (the washer did turn on automatically, right or did she turn it on). Doesn't really sound like a malicious thing... Am I missing something here?

Most of the laundromats I've been to, you have to put coins in and close the door to start the cycle. If it started after you just closed the door all the washers would turn on if you accidentally shut the door...then wait for the cycle to finish to even use the washer.

[Momma Kitty]

It seems to me that there is no way this woman could have NOT known that the washer would turn on since there had to be money put into this machine to start it and most people don't put money in when they finish a load. I just think that the worlk is getting pretty bad when people start killing off their own children. :(

[g222leav]

Originally posted by DarkFury

Yeah... but better a "smashed face" than a "drowned baby" :eek:

I dunno...do they have "emergency drain valves" on those types of washers? I know that the regular ones don't...
i don't think so, one time my dad and i had a bitch of a time trying to get it to open after we manually stopped it...it had to cycle out or something (i dunno...the women weren't home)...

[x1337xD335C1P13x]

Originally posted by CynJon
The cops should have used that woman's head to smash the glass...

HAHA!!:dead:

[guiseppewv]

Originally posted by molecularfire
Wait a minute... maybe I'm missing something here. Now... putting a kid in a washer doesn't sound that bad to me. I mean if she had stuff to do, and she couldn't watch the kid while doing it... sounds kinda logical to put the kid somewhere where it can't get around and hurt itself. Now... a front loading washer as long as it isn't turned on is a large area, with no sharp edges... Ok... it was pretty stupid of her to not know that it would turn on... but would a coin operated washer (I'm assuming thats that they have at laundromats) turn on if you didn't turn them on (the washer did turn on automatically, right or did she turn it on). Doesn't really sound like a malicious thing... Am I missing something here?

Yes, you are missing something. This is the most ridiculous post I have seen on this site or any other site. Putting a kid in a washer doesn't sound that bad to you? What? Are you stupid? So parents should just buy a little cage for their children? :rolleyes: That way when you have $hit to do and you don't have time for your kids you can throw them in the cage? That is brilliant. :rolleyes: Yep, there are NO sharp edges in that washer just a FEW gallons of water and no way to get out. She had to turn it on, those things won't turn on and won't accept money until the door is closed. :mad:

[g222leav]

Originally posted by guiseppewv


Putting a kid in a washer doesn't sound that bad to you? What? Are you stupid? So parents should just buy a little cage for their children? :rolleyes:

somebody was born and raised in a dog cage:heh:

[molecularfire]

It seems to me that there is no way this woman could have NOT known that the washer would turn on since there had to be money put into this machine to start it and most people don't put money in when they finish a load. I just think that the worlk is getting pretty bad when people start killing off their own children.
I agree with this, but they didn't say if they saw her put money in the video (if she did, you figure the video would have it). Now, whether they just didn't mention it or whether she didn't do it, I have no idea. I haven't seen the video, and have no idea how those machines work. Just throwing out the idea to try to get a better understanding of the situation.


Yes, you are missing something. This is the most ridiculous post I have seen on this site or any other site. Putting a kid in a washer doesn't sound that bad to you? What? Are you stupid? So parents should just buy a little cage for their children? That way when you have $hit to do and you don't have time for your kids you can throw them in the cage? That is brilliant. Yep, there are NO sharp edges in that washer just a FEW gallons of water and no way to get out. She had to turn it on, those things won't turn on and won't accept money until the door is closed.
Ok... I bow to your wisdom. Yes, it's much better for her to put the kid on the washer or in the basket where she could fall off. Better yet, put her on the ground where she could wander off and get lost or stepped on. :rolleyes: As for the cage analogy, that is stupid. If you were at home, you have the option of a crib (actually... those are kinda like cages with the guardrails and all), but if you're at a laundromat, you make do with what you have.
As far as how a washing machine at a laundromat works, to be honest, I've never used one, so I have no idea how they work. That's why I asked. Now... if she had to turn it on, then yes, what she did was criminal. It would've been much better to just explain that without being a prick about it... but then I guess some people just can't deny their true selves. :shrug:

[blueindian]

Originally posted by molecularfire

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i can't believe you are defending your remarks. under no circumstances is it a good idea to put a child in a freakin washing machine. anyone who thinks so should not be allowed to have sex without first being sterilized. aside from whether or not she turned it on, they are air tight.

got|suffocation?

[guiseppewv]

Originally posted by blueindian


i can't believe you are defending your remarks. under no circumstances is it a good idea to put a child in a freakin washing machine. anyone who thinks so should not be allowed to have sex without first being sterilized. aside from whether or not she turned it on, they are air tight.

got|suffocation?

Thank you I am glad I am not the only one that thinks that his comments are ludicrous.

[guiseppewv]

Originally posted by molecularfire

I agree with this, but they didn't say if they saw her put money in the video (if she did, you figure the video would have it). Now, whether they just didn't mention it or whether she didn't do it, I have no idea. I haven't seen the video, and have no idea how those machines work. Just throwing out the idea to try to get a better understanding of the situation.


Ok... I bow to your wisdom. Yes, it's much better for her to put the kid on the washer or in the basket where she could fall off. Better yet, put her on the ground where she could wander off and get lost or stepped on. :rolleyes: As for the cage analogy, that is stupid. If you were at home, you have the option of a crib (actually... those are kinda like cages with the guardrails and all), but if you're at a laundromat, you make do with what you have.
As far as how a washing machine at a laundromat works, to be honest, I've never used one, so I have no idea how they work. That's why I asked. Now... if she had to turn it on, then yes, what she did was criminal. It would've been much better to just explain that without being a prick about it... but then I guess some people just can't deny their true selves. :shrug:

Let's see, wander off, get stepped on or DROWN????? Which is worse? Hmmmm....let me think. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Yep, let's make do with what we have, so I suppose if we are at the zoo we should put our kid(s) in the snake pit while we go to the restroom. :rolleyes: I mean, we do have to make do with what we have instead of actually having an ounce of common sense about what we do.

[Nija]

Originally posted by guiseppewv

I mean, we do have to make do with what we have instead of actually having an ounce of common sense about what we do.

the law has upheld public stupidity for the longest time, why should anything change now? :rolleyes:

[Joshua]

Beavis and Butthead to the song "Breakin the law" by JP:

WASHING THE DOG, WASHING THE DOOOG!!" he he..

Maybe this lady saw that episode too and thought it might be a good idea.

[molecularfire]

they are air tight.
Ok... didn't know that. Given that, yes putting her in a washing machine was stupid. Are all washing machines air tight, or just the side loading ones?


Let's see, wander off, get stepped on or DROWN????? Which is worse? Hmmmm....let me think. Yep, let's make do with what we have, so I suppose if we are at the zoo we should put our kid(s) in the snake pit while we go to the restroom. I mean, we do have to make do with what we have instead of actually having an ounce of common sense about what we do.
If she didn't know that the washing machine would turn on, then drowning wouldn't come into her mind now, would it. As for the zoo analogy, that is completely inaccurate. First of all, she would've put the child in a machine near her, so she could watch the child. It's not (at least in the scenario that I've been drawing) that she's leaving her kid unattended, she's just making it easier to watch over her kid while she does her chores. Let me ask you guys a question then... how would you guys deal with trying to do the laundry while watching your kid. Given a couple of things that I didn't know about the machines in laundromats, I can see why it was stupid of her to put the kid in the machine. But, what could she have done? Just out of curiosity.


I mean, we do have to make do with what we have instead of actually having an ounce of common sense about what we do.
Sorry, but this statement doesn't make any sense to me. Please explain.

[Jenny]

You could do one of several things:

1) Put them in a stroller & strap them in.
If they won't sit still in stroller and keep climbing out, then do one of the following:

2) Leave the child with someone else. If that means you go do laundry in the middle of the night, fine.
3) If there is no one you can leave them with, try and bring someone else along to sit with them while you get your clothes on to wash.
4) It may take twice as long, but you hold their hand and use your other hand to do it.
5) All the laundromats I have ever been in have rolling carts for people to use. You put her in one of those along with your clothes (or part of your clothes if they all won't fit). Roll it over to the washing machine, put the clothes in. Go back and get the rest, etc. A 2 year old is old enough to "help" mom, too. Especially if she is in the rolling cart. She can hand stuff to mom, help put it in the machine, etc.
6) Worst comes to worst, you ASK someone else there, "Can you help me for a second? Could you stand here and hold her hand while I put this stuff in the machine?"

I could probably go on and on with ideas. ANYTHING but stuffing your child in a washing machine.

[guiseppewv]

Originally posted by molecularfire

Sorry, but this statement doesn't make any sense to me. Please explain.

110% sarcasm, that's what this statement contains.

[Showtime]

This happened in Pomona I believe. Another reason I never ever ever go to Pomona.

It's been all over the news and they said she put the little girl in one machine and than a 2nd before turning it on and walking away.

Everyone interviewed said she was a good "mother". Mixed thoughts on what to do to the "mother" from friends and family.

Her niece said she hoped the "mother" (used loosely) goes to jail for a long time and so do I.

-jel:halo:

[molecularfire]

Jenny's advice
Good ideas. I didn't know that 2 year olds had the mental capacity to be amused by helping. Thanks for the info.




110% sarcasm, that's what this statement contains.
Well... duh. I kinda figured that. However, even sarcastic statements have to make some sort of sense. Somebody can't just string a bunch of words together that make no sense and claim that it's a sarcastic statement. I'm just trying to figure out how you're being sarcastic.


This happened in Pomona I believe. Another reason I never ever ever go to Pomona.
Yeah, but then were will I buy my computer parts from. :D


It's been all over the news and they said she put the little girl in one machine and than a 2nd before turning it on and walking away.
Man... she put the kid in the machine, then turned it on. Man... I guess you guys are right. I hope she rots in hell.