What was your hardest class in college?

[ski]

MATH 4574: Vector and Complex Analysis.

They had us taking it our sophomore year as Electrical Engineering students, those masochists.


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And now a combination of the two...
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[brainsmile]

theoretical econometrics... I'd post my midterm but it was take home and ended up being 30+ pages of math

[zenbooty]

either Algorithmic Methods to Applied Mathematics or Glassblowing.

[hoey222]

organic chemistry......would have helpd if i studied :eek3:

[Memo]

I've had a couple pretty hard ones, Discrete Mathematics in Program Analysis, Set Theory and Digital Logic Design have all been pretty tough

[Cantacuzene]

My hardest non-history classes was Geology.

My hardest history class was Age of the American Revolution. Sounds like it would be easy, but my professor required more writing than I've ever done for a single class plus the reading was much tougher than normal.

[rtse313]

biology !!! all those non-sense words/terms are killing me.

[guiseppewv]

Mine probably had to be a EE class: Stochastic Systems Theory. It was similar to skiAtomic's class, b/c it involved a lot of vector mathmatics.

[coleslaw]

Physical VLSI design. :(

[Fas-ligand]

Plasmid Biology

...cool class tho.

[revil]

Theater Arts 147. It's so hard to go to glass when it's so early in the morning.

[GraingerGuy]

Upper division college Geometry...that sucked. (Imagine finding out that a triangle CAN have more than 180 degrees....non-Euclidian geometry...shudder!)

OR

Counterpoint (Music Theory class)

[welfareloser]

Scandinavian 405 & 406: Old Norse/ Icelandic

reading the sagas in the original language with normalized spelling the first semester, and then with the original spelling/syntax variations the second semester, as well as eddic and scaldic poetry, which is really hard because they leave words out to get a good meter and rhyme... spent at least 10 hours a week on those classes my sophomore year.

also by far my favorite class ever.

didn't do much for my forestry degree. of course, my forestry degree didn't do much for me... but the scandinavian class sure did... :P

[coleslaw]

skiAtomic: Those equations look all too familiar to me. Lots of curls and gradients there. :P

[InfiniteNothing]

Ahhh, vector calculus. I've done those proofs. :-) I thought they were fun. Also I'm in Ochem right now, what is the big deal???? You just learn the patterns: 1 bond means it ends with ane, 2 ene, 3 yne. Right now we are learning sn1,2 and E1,2 reactions. You guys got nothing. Now you want a hard class, come talk to me about Chem 131-133, Physical Chemistry (thermo, statistical mechanics, and quantum) It's not uncommon for a graduate to take the class as a refresher and get a C. Other than chem classes, I'd have to say Electromagnetism was reasonably tough. That's one class where you love the curve.

[guiseppewv]

Originally posted by InfiniteNothing
Ahhh, vector calculus. I've done those proofs. :-) I thought they were fun. Also I'm in Ochem right now, what is the big deal???? You just learn the patterns: 1 bond means it ends with ane, 2 ene, 3 yne. Right now we are learning sn1,2 and E1,2 reactions. You guys got nothing. Now you want a hard class, come talk to me about Chem 131-133, Physical Chemistry (thermo, statistical mechanics, and quantum) It's not uncommon for a graduate to take the class as a refresher and get a C. Other than chem classes, I'd have to say Electromagnetism was reasonably tough. That's one class where you love the curve.

I agree, I took Ochem too and I thought it was a joke especially compared to EE and CPE classes.:cool:

[IntegraTypeR]

only class i seriously could not grasp was Database .. followed by chem

[ufcrusher]

Whats Class?

My hardest under graduate class..thats a tough one. I honestly cant think of what it would have been. I hated Stats 3204 which was advanced core statistics part 2 (in otherwords Stats for Stats majors part 2). I was required to take it for my Psychology degree.

But then there was the history class with Geggus, which was hell because of the professor.

There were other classes such as physiological psychology which at first killed me, but then I dropped it only to retake it the next semester (same prof) and I kicked its collective arse. So I think that had to do with the course load I was taking at the time rather than the class itself.

[welfareloser]

Originally posted by InfiniteNothing
Ahhh, vector calculus. I've done those proofs. :-) I thought they were fun. Also I'm in Ochem right now, what is the big deal???? You just learn the patterns: 1 bond means it ends with ane, 2 ene, 3 yne. Right now we are learning sn1,2 and E1,2 reactions.

yeah, wait until the second semester (or third, eek!) of ochem (if you have to go that far with it.) it gets uglier, i promise.

[mcs328]

My three are Business Statistics, Physics III and Junior English.

[ramazank2]

Time dependent quantum mechanics
Shrodinger equation, Wavefunctions, Hamiltonians, jacobians, Tensors....
Very difficult!

[Nija]

I'm torn.

It's either Sign Lang. or Basic Math.

:P

[raimin]

Originally posted by welfareloser


yeah, wait until the second semester (or third, eek!) of ochem (if you have to go that far with it.) it gets uglier, i promise.

I agree
a- 1st quarter

c- 2nd and third

and thats taking 3rd quarter a second time to make up for the D :D

[revil]

Originally posted by DarkFury

Go to "glass"? Huh.... Dayuum... you're a brave man to be drinkin' first thing in the morning before "class". :hihi:
Haha, I swear my teacher is hungover when she gets to class.

[bachviet]

3D Dynamics for mechanical engineering major

[RoniMan]

Toughest class?

ANY class that starts at 8:00am

[Aristo]

For EE: definitely VLSI 'cause I'm taking it right now.
For CS: OS and Programming Language.

It was the first time for me to actually touch Linux and we had 4~5 kernel projects that prof offers absolutely no help and TA offers min helps. Google was my best friend!

Have to learn 5 languages, 2 major projects, 5 semi-large projects in 10 weeks for programming language. I'm sure the material itself isn't tough just not enough time to absord all the knowledge.

Database seems easy for me. I was doing research on that a few quarters back then.

Roni,

Totally agree. I never make the 8:00AM class. Unless it's the only time certain class offers, I would avoid anytime.

[whitak24]

i dunno. none of my classes were that hard. many of them required a lot of work, but to me that's different.....

now after next year, i may have a different answer :heh:

[ray]

multivariable calculus. LMFAO.

[Kevster]

When I was an undergraduate, VLSI design was the most time-consuming. I thought is was relatively easy to do it just took a long time doing the design/modeling/testing. The second most time-consuming class would be the FPGA Design and Applications class I took in summer school 7 years ago (when FPGAs were just becoming popular).

As for most academically difficult class I took as an undergrad that would probably be Communications II. That one was a lot of theory. It only made sense in grad school when I took Communications Systems I & II where we looked at systems/circuit design for communications (lots and lots of PLLs!).

[bachviet]

Originally posted by lilbigblue
multivariable calculus. LMFAO.
That's one easy class so wait until you hit "Differential Equation".

[le_stick]

All of the classes that I took were hard.......:D
You can say that I'm mentally challenge.....:)

[ray]

Originally posted by bachviet

That's one easy class so wait until you hit "Differential Equation".

i'm already graduated. :)

[Peachhead]

I forget the exact class name, but basically was stats. It sucked!

[Freelance Superhero]

CHEMISTRY!!(back when i was a misled pre-med) and i'm talkin basic level chem. i even flunked it in high school. i just hate chem. and freshman chem in college sucked ass... cornmonkey knows what i'm talkin about...

either that, or my Milton class, even tho he rocks...

[Full Monty]

CS 411: Operating Systems II. Working with Nachos was the worst!!!

[coleslaw]

Originally posted by ramazank2
Time dependent quantum mechanics
Shrodinger equation, Wavefunctions, Hamiltonians, jacobians, Tensors

Yeah, the Schrodinger equation is definitely one that I hope to never have to use again in my life - especially in three dimensions. :shake:

And yeah, you're right Kevster, VLSI is not necessarily difficult in terms of understanding the material; it's just the most time consuming class in the world. Spending 300 hours on a project in one month is just unheard of outside of the workplace, especially when you have 3 other EE classes to worry about. :(

[molecularfire]

P-chem.

[kimchicowboy]

organic chemistry and C++

[ski]

Who's taken Signals and Systems? It's the only class I'm taking this first 6-week session -- my advisor told me to drop the other 2 I had planned and only take Signals!! I know what she means now, pretty intense.

Also, anyone taken a class in Fourier Series? I'm looking to take it so I can get my math minor, fill a tech elective, and hopefully use what I learn in my other classes (is it very applicable? we're going to be learning some in Signals)

[Full Monty]

Yeah I took Signals and Systems my junior year. It was pretty tough, especially since my prof was from Turkey and had a really thick accent.

We touched on Fourier Series in one of my engr classes, but never spent too much time with them, thank goodness.

[guiseppewv]

Originally posted by welfareloser


yeah, wait until the second semester (or third, eek!) of ochem (if you have to go that far with it.) it gets uglier, i promise.

I agree that the 2nd semester is harder than the first but I still thought the 2nd semester was easy. I didn't take the 3rd semester o-chem.


Originally posted by bachviet

That's one easy class so wait until you hit "Differential Equation".

Yep, diff eq was much harder than multivariable.



Originally posted by skiAtomic
Who's taken Signals and Systems? It's the only class I'm taking this first 6-week session -- my advisor told me to drop the other 2 I had planned and only take Signals!! I know what she means now, pretty intense.

Also, anyone taken a class in Fourier Series? I'm looking to take it so I can get my math minor, fill a tech elective, and hopefully use what I learn in my other classes (is it very applicable? we're going to be learning some in Signals)

Signals and Sytems wasn't too bad except for the fact that I had it at 8 am and attendance was required.

[ski]

Mine's at 8am too! EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE WEEK. But for only 6 weeks :)

You guys really thought Diff EQ was harder than Multivariable? It may have been the approach or program at our school, but I thought it was really simple. Then again, I did get a B in it. (Grr)

[Kevster]

Originally posted by Full Monty
Yeah I took Signals and Systems my junior year. It was pretty tough, especially since my prof was from Turkey and had a really thick accent.

We touched on Fourier Series in one of my engr classes, but never spent too much time with them, thank goodness.

The class I took in my 3rd year essentially covered this - it was called Linear Systems and dealt with controls mostly (I had to take a more advanced Controls class afterward). Lots and lots of Laplace and Fourier transforms. Oh Yeah - you just gotta love the time and frequency domains!

[guiseppewv]

Originally posted by Kevster


The class I took in my 3rd year essentially covered this - it was called Linear Systems and dealt with controls mostly (I had to take a more advanced Controls class afterward). Lots and lots of Laplace and Fourier transforms. Oh Yeah - you just gotta love the time and frequency domains!

Just the names Laplace, Fourier, Wiener, and Kalman cause me to have nightmares. :D

[Cheesypuff]

as of now, it would have to me Diff Equations, along with Logic And sets. Dammit...that was hard....can't wait to see what other horrid math class I have to do!

[DaFunkyUnit]

Originally posted by skiAtomic
Who's taken Signals and Systems? It's the only class I'm taking this first 6-week session -- my advisor told me to drop the other 2 I had planned and only take Signals!! I know what she means now, pretty intense.

Also, anyone taken a class in Fourier Series? I'm looking to take it so I can get my math minor, fill a tech elective, and hopefully use what I learn in my other classes (is it very applicable? we're going to be learning some in Signals)

ah yes... good ol' Fourier... i failed Digital Signal Processing, taking it again now... Communication Systems was hard, very hard. (heh, when I say that class was hard, all the Communication Studies people perk their heads up. I'm talking about the EE communications, not Comm Studies :D )

[Jabberwocky]

Mathematical statistics (families of distrubutions, statistical convergence, maximum likelihood, point estimators, data reduction, etc) comes in first place on my list. Time series analysis comes in on a close 2nd.

[nickel]

UnderWater Basketweaving

[hang10wannabe]

PHYSICS 220A
hate physics... :mad:
http://www.lemonizer.com/uploads/phy220areview30001.jpg

and/or

MATH 250 : MATH ANALYSIS III (aka calculus 3)
deals with vector calculus and all that good stuff

:ugh:

[ski]

Physics is phun! (I did NOT just say that)

[hang10wannabe]

Originally posted by skiAtomic
Physics is phun! (I did NOT just say that)

lol

i thought it was FRICTION IS FUN

F f = u s x N

force of friction = coeficient of static friction times the normal force :rolleyes:

[Aristo]

Originally posted by skiAtomic
Who's taken Signals and Systems? It's the only class I'm taking this first 6-week session -- my advisor told me to drop the other 2 I had planned and only take Signals!! I know what she means now, pretty intense.

Also, anyone taken a class in Fourier Series? I'm looking to take it so I can get my math minor, fill a tech elective, and hopefully use what I learn in my other classes (is it very applicable? we're going to be learning some in Signals)

I took signals and systems a little over 2 years ago. It was a tough class for me but I survived with 3 other classes. You shall learn fourier transform and others in that class too. We as students were forced to memorize all the transform formula and our prof sucked so much, he got fired at the next quarter. All I can tell you is to practice lots of problems in that class. Good luck.

[Aristo]

Originally posted by guiseppewv


Just the names Laplace, Fourier, Wiener, and Kalman cause me to have nightmares. :D

Oh man. That certainly bring back a lot of horrifying memory. I'm so glad that I don't use them that much on later courses.

[kimchicowboy]

my friend was telling me about tangents. i totally forgot what tangents are. i having taken math for the past 3 years.

[nickel]

Originally posted by kimchicowboy
my friend was telling me about tangents. i totally forgot what tangents are.

i dunno, but i get off on them :D

[hang10wannabe]

Originally posted by nickelback


i dunno, but i get off on them :D


tangents are straight lines/paths off a curve or object... and u get off on them :eek: :naughty:

[ski]

I knew someone was gonna make a joke about nickel getting off :P

[guiseppewv]

Originally posted by nickelback
UnderWater Basketweaving

That was a pretty difficult class. I think the hardest part was holding your breath. :D

[Booyamos]

hmm my hardest class was one I just took. Language Theory of Compilers, using the old dragon book... ugh I just hated that stuff. It was some hard sh~t.

Discrete math was not fun either.

[hapoo]

I guess discrete math is easy at my school or something cause i'm 9 weeks into it and i've cracked the book open only to use the identities, besides that i've been gliding through it.
I can't say i've ever had any classes that were difficult as far as understanding goes, but i've had many classes that just required a lot of work, and being the lazy mofo i am they really drove me crazy.

[coleslaw]

Yeah, I don't see why people are saying that discrete math is difficult. To me, it's the easiest math there is - well, outside of arithmetic and algebra.