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blueindian
05-30-2003, 06:45 AM
gotta read them all...


Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.

Dick Cheney
Speech to VFW National Convention
August 26, 2002




Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons.

George W. Bush
Speech to UN General Assembly
September 12, 2002




If he declares he has none, then we will know that Saddam Hussein is once again misleading the world.

Ari Fleischer
Press Briefing
December 2, 2002




We know for a fact that there are weapons there.

Ari Fleischer
Press Briefing
January 9, 2003




Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent.

George W. Bush
State of the Union Address
January 28, 2003




We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more.

Colin Powell
Remarks to UN Security Council
February 5, 2003




We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons -- the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have.

George W. Bush
Radio Address
February 8, 2003




So has the strategic decision been made to disarm Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction by the leadership in Baghdad? . . . I think our judgment has to be clearly not.

Colin Powell
Remarks to UN Security Council
March 7, 2003




Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.

George W. Bush
Address to the Nation
March 17, 2003




Well, there is no question that we have evidence and information that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical particularly . . . all this will be made clear in the course of the operation, for whatever duration it takes.

Ari Fleisher
Press Briefing
March 21, 2003




There is no doubt that the regime of Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction. And . . . as this operation continues, those weapons will be identified, found, along with the people who have produced them and who guard them.

Gen. Tommy Franks
Press Conference
March 22, 2003




I have no doubt we're going to find big stores of weapons of mass destruction.


Defense Policy Board member Kenneth Adelman
Washington Post, p. A27
March 23, 2003




One of our top objectives is to find and destroy the WMD. There are a number of sites.

Pentagon Spokeswoman Victoria Clark
Press Briefing
March 22, 2003




We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.

Donald Rumsfeld
ABC Interview
March 30, 2003




Obviously the administration intends to publicize all the weapons of mass destruction U.S. forces find -- and there will be plenty.

Neocon scholar Robert Kagan
Washington Post op-ed
April 9, 2003




I think you have always heard, and you continue to hear from officials, a measure of high confidence that, indeed, the weapons of mass destruction will be found.

Ari Fleischer
Press Briefing
April 10, 2003




We are learning more as we interrogate or have discussions with Iraqi scientists and people within the Iraqi structure, that perhaps he destroyed some, perhaps he dispersed some. And so we will find them.

George W. Bush
NBC Interview
April 24, 2003




There are people who in large measure have information that we need . . . so that we can track down the weapons of mass destruction in that country.

Donald Rumsfeld
Press Briefing
April 25, 2003




We'll find them. It'll be a matter of time to do so.

George W. Bush
Remarks to Reporters
May 3, 2003




I'm absolutely sure that there are weapons of mass destruction there and the evidence will be forthcoming. We're just getting it just now.

Colin Powell
Remarks to Reporters
May 4, 2003




We never believed that we'd just tumble over weapons of mass destruction in that country.

Donald Rumsfeld
Fox News Interview
May 4, 2003




I'm not surprised if we begin to uncover the weapons program of Saddam Hussein -- because he had a weapons program.

George W. Bush
Remarks to Reporters
May 6, 2003




U.S. officials never expected that "we were going to open garages and find" weapons of mass destruction.

Condoleeza Rice
Reuters Interview
May 12, 2003




I just don't know whether it was all destroyed years ago -- I mean, there's no question that there were chemical weapons years ago -- whether they were destroyed right before the war, (or) whether they're still hidden.

Maj. Gen. David Petraeus, Commander 101st Airborne
Press Briefing
May 13, 2003




Before the war, there's no doubt in my mind that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical. I expected them to be found. I still expect them to be found.

Gen. Michael Hagee, Commandant of the Marine Corps
Interview with Reporters
May 21, 2003




Given time, given the number of prisoners now that we're interrogating, I'm confident that we're going to find weapons of mass destruction.

Gen. Richard Myers, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff
NBC Today Show interview
May 26, 2003




They may have had time to destroy them, and I don't know the answer.


Donald Rumsfeld
Remarks to Council on Foreign Relations
May 27, 2003




For bureaucratic reasons, we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction (as justification for invading Iraq) because it was the one reason everyone could agree on.

Paul Wolfowitz
Vanity Fair interview
May 28, 2003

from http://billmon.org.v.sabren.com/archives/000172.html

Joshua
05-30-2003, 06:53 AM
Who gives a Rat's A$$ Blue? It's done. Soon we'll rename it New Texas and start pumping :D

Cantacuzene
05-30-2003, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by SnotRocket
Who gives a Rat's A$$

Everyone who died.

Joshua
05-30-2003, 09:51 AM
<rubbing thumb and first finger together> You hear that? That's me playing a sad sad song on the world's smallest violin.

People die everyday in every way. Get over it.


Originally posted by Cantacuzene


Everyone who died.

topane
05-30-2003, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by SnotRocket
<rubbing thumb and first finger together> You hear that? That's me playing a sad sad song on the world's smallest violin.

People die everyday in every way. Get over it.

<sarcasm>
So, can I kill you now? I mean, it doesn't matter, right?
</sarcasm>

Joshua
05-30-2003, 10:07 AM
I got the sarcasm, but truth be told, if anyone on this board died tomorrow, would it really affect anyone else on this boards life other than for the 5 minutes you felt bad about it? No.

You wouldn't call in sick to work or seek a grief counselor.

So, truthfully, someones death doesn't matter to anyone but those closest to them.


Originally posted by topane
<sarcasm>
So, can I kill you now? I mean, it doesn't matter, right?
</sarcasm>

zenbooty
05-30-2003, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by SnotRocket
Who gives a Rat's A$$ Blue? It's done. Soon we'll rename it New Texas and start pumping :D You should. Our armed forces are representatives of you and me and every other citizen. Their killing bloodies our hands, so if their was no good reason for what they did, what's that make us?

zenbooty
05-30-2003, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by SnotRocket
So, truthfully, someones death doesn't matter to anyone but those closest to them.Spoken like a true sociopath.

Joshua
05-30-2003, 10:16 AM
So, ummm, like what you're saying is that if I get wacked on the way home today, you're gonna be lost in sorrow, won't eat for a week and will be first in line at my funeral, right? that's what you're saying?


Originally posted by zenbooty
Spoken like a true sociopath.

Cantacuzene
05-30-2003, 10:34 AM
You always make things one extreme or another Snot. Its not like that in the real world. Just because you arent overcome with grief doesn't mean that you are callously jaded about it either.

Nija
05-30-2003, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by SnotRocket
I got the sarcasm, but truth be told, if anyone on this board died tomorrow, would it really affect anyone else on this boards life other than for the 5 minutes you felt bad about it? No.


I would. There is at least one person on this board I would feel extreme sadness for, and one ex-member. You assume that none of us actually know anyone else, expect through this board. I know there are people that have friends on this board, because they were referred by word of mouth.

molecularfire
05-30-2003, 11:09 AM
Then wouldn't you consider yourself one of the "those closest to them". I think snotrocket did make allowances for that.

Nija
05-30-2003, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by molecularfire
Then wouldn't you consider yourself one of the "those closest to them". I think snotrocket did make allowances for that.

They aren't family so :shrug:

zenbooty
05-30-2003, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by SnotRocket
So, ummm, like what you're saying is that if I get wacked on the way home today, you're gonna be lost in sorrow, won't eat for a week and will be first in line at my funeral, right? that's what you're saying? That's not what I'm saying at all. But there is a great deal of grey room between the black and white of being overcome with grief, and basically shrugging my shoulders and saying "Wasn't me, wasn't anyone I know personally, so who cares?" Just because I'm not lost in sorrow doesn't mean I think its ok for people in the world to be killed indescriminantly for no good reason at all. So to take the attitude of, "people died, but its over now and neither myself nor my friends or family were victims, so who cares, get over it," is very callous, and, quite frankly, almost the definition of a sociopathic mindset.

Joshua
05-30-2003, 01:13 PM
Well, you're right and wrong. I don't feel much of anything for anyone I don't know in one way or another. That's not to say I don't recognize the tragedy in a situation etc..., but the truth is that as soon as I go to lunch I forget about it.

BTW, here's your proof:

so·ci·o·path

One who is affected with a personality disorder marked by antisocial behavior.

Pretty accurate in this regard. :) But then again, I'm here being social.. I'm some kind of paradox. I cancel myself out. :D he he he.


Originally posted by zenbooty
...so who cares, get over it," is very callous, and, quite frankly, almost the definition of a sociopathic mindset.

Cantacuzene
05-30-2003, 09:26 PM
If you lookup "anti-social" in a sociology book glossary you will see a different definition than most people expect.

revil
05-30-2003, 10:36 PM
Guys cut it out. SnotRocket is an ass. We all know this. No need to provoke him to be even more of an ass. Basically if you argue with him, he won't change his mind, he'll just be his ass self. Maybe one day he'll stop being an ass, but i don't see that coming anytime soon.

Nija
05-30-2003, 10:48 PM
http://www.nijaizkewl.com/images/personal/bush.jpg

InfiniteNothing
06-01-2003, 02:31 AM
I thought bush was a euphemism for pubic hair?

I really wish we'd consolodate our euphemisms.

And such utter disrespect for human life makes me sick. Dopey was timed out for much less than this.

Joshua
06-01-2003, 09:04 PM
I'd say you're out of line on this one Revil. If you read my last post, you'd see I did switch gears. I haven't been outright cruel to anyone at anytime and occasionally just like to have fun. Sorry if my thoughts of eating your african whatever fish got you lit up, but you should lighten up.




Originally posted by revil
Guys cut it out. SnotRocket is an ass. We all know this. No need to provoke him to be even more of an ass. Basically if you argue with him, he won't change his mind, he'll just be his ass self. Maybe one day he'll stop being an ass, but i don't see that coming anytime soon. .

As for this, who said anything about "utter disrespect for human life"?? I may have a cynical opinion about things, but what I've said is a far cry from your blanket statement. If your statement was accurate, then how do you explain my heartfelt condolenses to those members who've lost loved ones lately?? Here is a quote from me in this thread: "That's not to say I don't recognize the tragedy in a situation etc..." Take it how you will, but I think if you look down to the bottom of your heart you'll see that I'm right.

If everyone mourned every other person that died on this planet, we'd never stop mourning. So we don't. Let me know if I should explain further.


InfiniteNothing :
And such utter disrespect for human life makes me sick. Dopey was timed out for much less than this.

Speedfreak
06-02-2003, 01:00 AM
Man, it's too bad that they didn't find any weapons of mass destruction. I guess Operation Iraqi Freedom failed.