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guiseppewv
06-03-2003, 11:23 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/03/music.country.reut/index.html


NASHVILLE, Tennessee (Billboard) -- Just as the controversy appeared to be dying down after the Dixie Chicks' Natalie Maines mildly ridiculed President Bush before the start of the Iraq war, country radio programmers are disappointed in the group once again.

This time, they take issue with the fact that Maines apparently chose to take a shot at fellow country musician Toby Keith during her May 21 performance at the Academy of Country Music Awards. Maines wore a sleeveless shirt with the letters F.U.T.K. on the front.

Most viewers, including awards show presenter Vince Gill, interpreted the letters as an expletive aimed at Keith. After opening the envelope that revealed Keith had won the night's biggest award -- entertainer of the year -- Gill quipped, "I think his name was on someone's shirt tonight."

For WXTU Philadelphia assistant program director/music director Cadillac Jack, Maines' shirt was the show's only disappointment. "With all the patriotism in the air that night, it was a downer and completely unnecessary," he says. "I was disappointed with them yet again."

"Just when you think it's safe to add the Chicks back into rotation," KZKX Lincoln, Nebraska, PD Brian Jennings says. "Oh, Natalie, why do you make it so hard to love you?"

KSCS Dallas assistant PD/music director Chris Huff calls the awards show "a perfect opportunity for the Chicks to showcase their music, and unfortunately it's now all overshadowed by four letters. No one's talking about the song they performed. They're talking about the four letters Natalie chose to wear on her shirt. How anyone could believe such an act would be a prudent move is totally beyond me."

KTEX Brownsville, Texas, PD Jo-Jo Cerda says, "I was hoping that sometime soon we would be able to put this Dixie Chicks thing behind us. Unfortunately, the can of worms has just been reopened. I know a lot of KTEX listeners were ready to move on, but now there has been a national display against one of the more popular performers in our format. Maines might as well have taken another jab at Bush."

Dr. Bruce Nelson Stratton, PD of KFTX Corpus Christi, Texas, calls Maines "toast."

KNIX Phoenix music director Gwen Foster is "disgusted with certain artists who just cannot see that the world doesn't revolve around them and their pettiness all the time."

"I think it was most distasteful for a national TV audience," WTQR Greensboro, North Carolina, PD Bill Dotson says. "This is giving country music a black eye. For God's sake, let it go."

The spat between Maines and Keith goes back to his single "Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue (The Angry American)," which Maines criticized in the media last year. Keith responded with public comments that Maines wasn't in his league as a songwriter.

In his concerts, Keith has been showing on big screens behind the stage the doctored photo of Maines and Saddam Hussein that began circulating on the Internet a few months ago after Maines criticized Bush.

"This format is no stranger to squabbles among its children," Huff says. "But we move on. Nothing is to be gained by turning it into a game of public one-upmanship on one of the few nights of the year where our format enjoys such broad national exposure."

Jenny
06-03-2003, 11:42 AM
F.U. Toby Keith

xsiled2
06-03-2003, 12:08 PM
hmm atleast i can almost listen to toby keith without wanting to kill myself, his stuff is pretty good considering i dislike country all together.

the dykie chicks are dumb and continue to plow deeper and deeper away from fans.

Kevster
06-03-2003, 12:29 PM
Wow. Talk about putting one foot on top of the other then shooting yourself... :shake:

jstreet
06-03-2003, 12:37 PM
I think that's funny, they all need to get the sticks out of their asses. Power to the Dixie Chicks ;)

avlena
06-03-2003, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by guiseppewv

Keith responded with public comments that Maines wasn't in his league as a songwriter.

In his concerts, Keith has been showing on big screens behind the stage the doctored photo of Maines and Saddam Hussein that began circulating on the Internet a few months ago after Maines criticized Bush.


i know it's popular to be anti dixie chicks right now, but how come no one is critisizing Keith for attacking Maines so publicly, at his concerts with such horrid photos?? heck, if someone bashed me so badly and distastefully in public, yeah, i might want to tell him "F.U" also! and her wearing a t-shirt with a few initials is a bit more subtle then him showing pics of her and saddam at his concerts. *shrug* they're both acting like immature children in how they're handling this spat, but i think Keith deserves that msg.

guiseppewv
06-03-2003, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by avlena


i know it's popular to be anti dixie chicks right now, but how come no one is critisizing Keith for attacking Maines so publicly, at his concerts with such horrid photos?? heck, if someone bashed me so badly and distastefully in public, yeah, i might want to tell him "F.U" also! and her wearing a t-shirt with a few initials is a bit more subtle then him showing pics of her and saddam at his concerts. *shrug* they're both acting like immature children in how they're handling this spat, but i think Keith deserves that msg.

I think it was Maines who started it all by commenting on his song "Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue (The Angry American),".

What were the "horrid" photos, I have not seen them and I didn't hear about them until I saw the article I posted from cnn.com .

Plus I don't think wearing "F.U.T.K." on your shirt is very subtle. Especially considering the crowd that was mainly watching the CMA. By that I mean all of the country music fans. Almost everyone there had to know what it stood for. :shrug:

cyro
06-03-2003, 12:56 PM
Country music??? Keith and the Dixie Chicks and all that other stuff is not country music :( Patsy Cline, now that's country!

Modern "country music" should be called country pop and is of the same artistic value as elevator tunes IMHO ;)

:D :D :D

guiseppewv
06-03-2003, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by cyro
Country music??? Keith and the Dixie Chicks and all that other stuff is not country music :( Patsy Cline, now that's country!

Modern "country music" should be called country pop and is of the same artistic value as elevator tunes IMHO ;)

:D :D :D

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. :D I am not much of a country music fan, although I do like Hank Williams, JR and a few others.

avlena
06-03-2003, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by guiseppewv


I think it was Maines who started it all by commenting on his song "Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue (The Angry American),".

What were the "horrid" photos, I have not seen them and I didn't hear about them until I saw the article I posted from cnn.com .

Plus I don't think wearing "F.U.T.K." on your shirt is very subtle. Especially considering the crowd that was mainly watching the CMA. By that I mean all of the country music fans. Almost everyone there had to know what it stood for. :shrug:

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/picturejokes/9055.jpg

this is one of similar pics i've seen circulating. that is far from being subtle. i know maines "started it", but does that make it right for keith to portray to his audience that maines is friendly with saddam? and yes, 4 initials are definitely more subtle then a picture, where you can clearly identify what's going on.

i'm not saying that maines is completely innocent, because she shouldn't be saying or doing the things that's been landing in the news lately, but i'm also not saying keith is innocent either, because hell, if someone circulated a vicious photo like that with me in it to hundreds of people, heck yeah i'd retaliate.

just because it's popular right now to bash dixie chicks doesn't mean what keith did was right.

cyro
06-03-2003, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by guiseppewv


Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. :D I am not much of a country music fan, although I do like Hank Williams, JR and a few others.

Naa, I am not offended, I was just poking fun at country pop. Now Hank Williams, Johnny Cash and Patsy Cline - that's country music :)

guiseppewv
06-03-2003, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by avlena

this is one of similar pics i've seen circulating. that is far from being subtle. i know maines "started it", but does that make it right for keith to portray to his audience that maines is friendly with saddam? and yes, 4 initials are definitely more subtle then a picture, where you can clearly identify what's going on.

i'm not saying that maines is completely innocent, because she shouldn't be saying or doing the things that's been landing in the news lately, but i'm also not saying keith is innocent either, because hell, if someone circulated a vicious photo like that with me in it to hundreds of people, heck yeah i'd retaliate.

just because it's popular right now to bash dixie chicks doesn't mean what keith did was right.

I do agree with you that they both are acting like children.

I definately don't think that pic is "horrid" or "vicious", I thought that some sexual oriented pictures had been doctored of her and Saddam when you called the pictures "horrid" in your earlier post.

Also, wearing a shirt with "F.U.T.K." during a prime time, live, awards event is far from subtle.

faither
06-03-2003, 01:40 PM
The "country" folks are just a bunch of hillbillies handling their differences in a very immature manner. They should handle their disputes the way rappers do....


:johnwoo2: :johnwoo2: :johnwoo2:

avlena
06-03-2003, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by guiseppewv


I do agree with you that they both are acting like children.

I definately don't think that pic is "horrid" or "vicious", I thought that some sexual oriented pictures had been doctored of her and Saddam when you called the pictures "horrid" in your earlier post.

Also, wearing a shirt with "F.U.T.K." during a prime time, live, awards event is far from subtle.

*shrug* i never said it was sexual. my line of thinking: we're living in a time when one of the worst insults possible is to be called "un-American". so that's why i think those pics are pretty bad. but, since my friends tell me i have a unique terminology of my own, let me translate what i mean:

vicious: mean and spiteful, meant to hurt and insult
horrid: negative, bad

in my opinion i believe that pic is mean, spiteful, insulting, and negative. no sexual orientation implied. many apologies for the confusion in terminology and semantics. :P

avlena
06-03-2003, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by faither
The "country" folks are just a bunch of hillbillies handling their differences in a very immature manner. They should handle their disputes the way rappers do....


:johnwoo2: :johnwoo2: :johnwoo2:

:heh: hahaha... now THAT would be amusing! how about a country music riot? ;)

Nija
06-03-2003, 03:32 PM
I dunno.. when I heard about it, I thought it was more along the lines of their nekkid photo shot. F.U.T.K. if you say it, it's sounds like fukk'd, but that's me :shrug:

sbp
06-03-2003, 04:59 PM
C'mon xsiled, no need to call Maines a big mouthed cow.


http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/picturejokes/9055.jpg

Obviously a fake-that's supposed to be Sean Penn there. :dodgy: http://sbp777.homestead.com/files/laughingicon.gif

xsiled2
06-03-2003, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by sbp
C'mon xsiled, no need to call Maines a big mouthed cow.


how did you read my mind....

















neo?:confused: :confused: :confused: :D

whitak24
06-03-2003, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by faither
The "country" folks are just a bunch of hillbillies handling their differences in a very immature manner. They should handle their disputes the way rappers do....


:johnwoo2: :johnwoo2: :johnwoo2:
hillbillies handle their differences that way too....they just use shotguns :hihi:

johnnymk
06-03-2003, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by cyro
Country music??? Keith and the Dixie Chicks and all that other stuff is not country music :( Patsy Cline, now that's country!

Modern "country music" should be called country pop and is of the same artistic value as elevator tunes IMHO ;)

:D :D :D

You are absolutely right! All you have to do today to create country music is to pop out a rock-style song, add a guy or girl with a southern twang and a steel guitar, and make sure that the words are about a relationship that went sour.

BTW, of all of the music that is NOT increasing in popularity is country music, mainly because the fans are getting tired of it because of the reasons I mentioned. However, I still like it better than the older hick style of country that existed thirty years ago.

bachviet
06-04-2003, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by chosenfool
so T.K. stands for toby keith...i see!

so what does F.U. stand for?

he he he...
Fool U but it only works on April Fool Day.

guiseppewv
06-04-2003, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by sbp
C'mon xsiled, no need to call Maines a big mouthed cow.


http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/picturejokes/9055.jpg

Obviously a fake-that's supposed to be Sean Penn there. :dodgy:

I think it needs both of them there, with Peter Arnett doing the interview. :D