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sbp
08-16-2003, 10:33 PM
Parents cry foul over bans on portable hoops on streets (http://washingtontimes.com/metro/20030815-101308-6202r.htm)

Local governments are banning portable basketball hoops from street curbs and cul-de-sacs, a move that angers many parents who say the bans make it more difficult to get their children to play outside.

The hoops measure has ignited a debate between many parents, who view street ball as harmless fun that gets their children off the couch, and town officials, who say they need the law to unclog streets and reduce the chances of serious traffic accidents.

"The police are against fun," said Barbara Shifflett at her home on a cul-de-sac in Sykesville, Md. "They might as well just go ahead and pass a law banning fun in this town."

The same disagreement is surfacing in communities nationwide as sprawl gobbles away open space once used for ball fields and strained budgets cut funds for recreation.

This week officials in Taneytown, Md., banned portable hoops and sports equipment from streets and sidewalks in their Carroll County community. Town council members in Smithsburg, Md., are considering similar legislation if existing laws don't prohibit portable hoops on their Washington County neighborhood streets.

"It's a growing epidemic," Smithsburg Mayor Mildred Myers said. "When you drive down some streets, it's like you're driving down a basketball court."

Laws banning portable hoops also have passed in towns in New Jersey, Kentucky, New York, California and Pennsylvania.

But not all jurisdictions agree. Officials in Fairfax and Arlington counties, Alexandria and Falls Church say they don't have plans to ban portable hoops in their communities.

"We don't have any rules on the books, and we're not planning on any," said Peter Leiberg, zoning manager for Alexandria. "We just haven't had any complaints."

Most Maryland localities don't plan a ban either. "It's a growing concern, but I don't think it's a big issue statewide," said Kevin Best, research manager for the Maryland Municipal League, which represents the state's 157 municipalities. "Most towns still don't have overt anti-basketball-hoop ordinances."

Meanwhile, the Sykesville Town Council will review its measure against street ball before voting on it next month. Many upset parents say they plan to cry foul.

"It's just plain silly," said Wendy Rathell, whose two teenage boys, Tim and David, play ball daily at the hoop she bought for $85 earlier this year.

"I'd rather have them playing basketball than getting in trouble."

The hoop stands a few feet back from the Rathells' curb, but the net hangs over the street, making the stand illegal under the bill. Town officials say so many hoops line developments in their 1.5-square-mile Carroll County town — more than 100 at last count — that streets are no longer safe.

"People who say we're trying to ban fun are missing the point," said Sykesville Police Chief John R. Williams. "We're trying to protect children. We have an obligation to keep them safe. It's a civic liability issue. Luckily, we haven't had a child struck or seriously injured by a car. But we shouldn't wait for that to happen before we do something."

Under the law, owners of the portable hoops would receive a warning for the first violation, and a $50 fine and potential impoundment of the equipment on subsequent violations, Chief Williams said. The law was modeled after legislation passed last year in Paulsboro, N.J., a suburb of Philadelphia, he said.

In the meantime, portable-hoop manufacturers are paying close attention to the regulations that are springing up nationwide.

"It's certainly on our radar screen as an industrywide issue," said Mike Kermendy, director of product development for the Wisconsin-based Huffy Sport Co. "But we understand why this is happening. We do not advocate the use of our products in an area where people are driving."

This week, Taneytown officials sent letters advising residents to take down the hoops from streets and curbs. "We had to do something," said Gary Hardman, city manager for Taneytown. "We had people playing full-court games who were running from one sidewalk to another."

Officials in Paulsboro haven't issued any fines after passing their ban last year. "It's been a good tool to get the kids off the street," said Lt. Frank Grogan, of the Paulsboro Police Department. "It's worked. People have accepted it and gotten their equipment out of the streets."

Still, some officials are reluctant to enact legislation to regulate sports equipment and would rather enforce existing laws that govern traffic and public safety issues.

"After a while, you can pass so many laws that everybody is going to be fined for something or another," Mrs. Myers said. "At some point, though, we're going to have to do something."

Memo
08-17-2003, 12:46 AM
That's pretty ridiculous. It's part of living in a neighborhood, if the neighbors are cool with the hoops, why can't the city be? We always used to put 2 hoops together in the street and play, parents didn't mind at all

slaus
08-17-2003, 12:48 AM
I guess they want to create more coach potatoes

sbp
08-17-2003, 01:19 AM
But what if the neighbors aren't cool with it UT Memo? What about non-neighbors who are using the street? http://home.earthlink.net/~sbp777/smilies/devil8.gif

http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0721/p01s01-ussc.html

It is an American story that's been building since the day Henry Ford started producing Model T's.

Neighborhood kids gather in streets or alleys playing football, basketball, hockey, tag - anything with a stick, a ball, or a little mischief. Then the rumble of a truck engine, the squeal of tires on pavement, or the blare of a car horn sends them scurrying, only to regroup, unfazed, for the next play.

But now this adolescent pastime is in jeopardy as authorities across the country take aim at street sports...Seems everything nowadays has to be legislated. http://home.earthlink.net/~sbp777/smilies/headshaker.gif

http://www.sunspot.net/bal-te.ca.hoops04aug04,0,7223617.story

Officials in the Carroll County town, where one street alone has 19 portable hoops, say the contraptions damage municipal trash trucks and snowplows. They say that errant basketballs dent parked cars and break side mirrors, and that pick-up games block traffic.

"One street had nets at opposite sides of the road and they were playing full court across the street," said Taneytown Police Chief William E. Tyler. "When they're playing, kids really are preoccupied. We'd rather have to move a basketball hoop away from the street than to show up at an accident scene."

On several lanes in Sykesville, as many as four consecutive homes have hoops hanging over the street. At one intersection, children have painted a court. A running tally kept by Town Manager Matthew Candland shows at least 91 hoops are hanging over Sykesville streets.

"Some of these things go six feet out into the roadway," Candland said. "It is not fair to motorists or to kids. They are a hazard to trash trucks, snowplows, even UPS is complaining."


RoseAnn Fischer, who lives on a block of 10 homes and three hoops, supports the proposed ban.

"I come down the block, and kids keep right on playing," she said. "You have to wait for them to finish before you can pass."True and some of 'em act like you are in the wrong.


Others are against the proposal. They say older children can watch out for themselves, and the younger ones are safe as long as they are supervised.Cause we all know that's going to happen right? :heh:

If only it were that simple. Some kids will deny breaking a car window and the parent backs 'em up. So much for responsibility eh.


"Would they rather our children sit on the couch and watch cartoons?" said Tina Fry, mother of a 6-year-old girl. "I feel comfortable with my child playing in her own neighborhood. If you don't like hoops or soccer on your street, then don't move into a suburban neighborhood."I don't agree with this view. It doesn't have to be an either/or situation. And conversely it could be said if you want kids to play more safely, move somewhere it can be done.


Dan Seledee said the town should concentrate on speeders and leave the children to play.

"They have to slow traffic here before they even talk about taking hoops out," he said.Um not every driver speeds.


For Darin Ellison, 12, his hoop was a birthday present three years ago. He says he "shoots around every day" at his hoop and those in the neighborhood.

"It's real important for me to play at home," he said. "I don't want to waste energy walking to a hoop in a park."I've seen a couple of these portable basketball hoops around this area. Its like the kids don't want to walk 2 blocks to the courts. :rolleyes: Thats cause some of these younguns today are so frigging lazy. Laziest generation ever! But a lot of that is due to lifestyle and things we have today.

Now on the flip side the courts may not be as safe as home. :hmm:

Yeah kids shouldn't be couped up inside all the time and not everyone has a yard.

As the Sun article points out the hoops used to be put over garages.

Inviting children into busy streets to play is an invitation for disaster to happen. They could easily be hurt/killed and then who will be blamed and sued? The vehicle driver.