The Great Pretender Rush Limbaugh RESIGNS!!

[sbp]

Yet another example of the double standard and how political correctness is alive and well. :dodgy:

[Cantacuzene]

He said that McNabb was overrated BECAUSE he is black. Thats not a double standard. Limbaugh clearly went over the line with that comment. He is now free to go back to his right wing fantasy world where he can bash the Clintons to his heart's content.

[TofuNinja]

Donovan McNabb is black?!?!?! I thought he was a QB in a slump. :shrug: ALso he hurt my Fantasy team :(

[raimin]

no ha said, maybe the media wants mcnabb to be sucessful because he was black.

how the media wants a black coach and black quarterbacks to succeed


I was watching pregame when he said that and it didn't sound racist to me. He was just inserting a new twist to why Philly wasn't doing well.

[sbp]

Pointing out the obvious-that there are biases in the news media, is not racist.

As another said...McNabb is a good QB, but not great and has been overrated from the beginning. He is an erratic passer and has no accuracy whatsoever.

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http://canada.com/sports/story.html?id=A9E4C1A6-FEE6-4595-B31E-E1810CE18469

Before McNabb led the Eagles to a 23-13 victory over the Buffalo Bills on Sunday, Limbaugh said on ESPN's pre-game show that he didn't think McNabb was as good as perceived from the start.

"I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well," Limbaugh said on Sunday NFL Countdown.

"There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defence carried this team," he said.

[topane]

Rush didn't say McNabb is overrated because he is black. He said "the media" (and we all know the media is nothing but a bunch of bleeding heart commie baby-eating liberals, anyway), handled him with kid gloves because he is black and they want a black quarterback to succeed. Is Rush Limbaugh a moron? Yes. Was that a racist comment? I don't think so. Was his comment correct? I don't think so. He should have known better, considering he's always patting himself on the back telling everyone how smart he is. There are a lot of black QBs in the league compared to 10 years ago and a couple of them are top-notch (Culpepper, Vick). If the media wanted a black QB to do well, there are already those two stars, among other starters. Besides, the best "black quarterback" story happened in the 80s when Doug Williams led the 'Skins to a Super Bowl victory.

Is McNabb overrated? Sometimes he reminds me an awful lot of Randall Cunningham - good arm strength, quick feet, but sometimes has trouble reading and tends to overthrow receivers. His offensive cast isn't very good, and he has to force a lot of balls or run because his receivers don't get enough separation. I think he does well for what's around him. And as a Redskins fan, I cringe every time he takes the ball, because he's done so many great things on the field.

[nickel]

Originally posted by Cantacuzene
He said that McNabb was overrated BECAUSE he is black. Thats not a double standard. Limbaugh clearly went over the line with that comment. He is now free to go back to his right wing fantasy world where he can bash the Clintons to his heart's content.
not that i am defending Limbaugh, because i can't stand the guy, but Canta i would like a link to that quote, "McNabb is overrated BECAUSE he is black."

[johnnymk]

I believe that the Eagles lost the Superbowl last year because the coach thought that McNabb would perform like he did earlier in the season. He rarely impresses me. And he's way overpaid.

[sbp]

Sure there isn't a little social concern in the NFL. Thats why Matt Millen wasn't fined $200K since he couldn't interview black coaches who didn't want to be interviewed. http://home.earthlink.net/~sbp777/smilies/confused7.gif

Its no secret the newsmedia treats and boosts folks differently on account of race and whatnot. Ever hear of the Great white hope in boxing? How about the frenzy around Annika Sorenstam. And basketball with Yao. On it goes.

You know why the news media is mad? It hits too close to home for some of 'em.

[Cantacuzene]

Originally posted by nickelback

not that i am defending Limbaugh, because i can't stand the guy, but Canta i would like a link to that quote, "McNabb is overrated BECAUSE he is black."

Notice that I didn't put quotes around it. I was talkign about the context and meaning of what he said, not the xact words.

[nickel]

ah, so then you were taking his words out of context.
interesting. . .

[Cantacuzene]

No, I put them in the quite correct context.

[nickel]

maybe

[Cantacuzene]

Well look at what happened, he made comments that could be taken as racist. Then he resigned. The resignation is sorta like an admission of guilt.

But who cares about this scandal, Rush is a pill addict anyway. He better 'rush' to rehab. :bandit:

[sbp]

If only Limbaugh had said that black and Hispanic players are better suited to playing in the sun and heat than white players. (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/nl/cubs/2003-07-07-baker_x.htm) Then that would have been ok. Well no, it wouldn't have been. Thats cause Limbaughs first name is not Dusty and worse of all he's coldhearted, white conservative. Shame on him for helping out Operation A/C (http://www.operationac.com/dw_pages/howtodonate.htm)!

[nickel]

Originally posted by Cantacuzene
Well look at what happened, he made comments that could be taken as racist. Then he resigned. The resignation is sorta like an admission of guilt.

"sorta"

[Cantacuzene]

Originally posted by sbp
If only Limbaugh had said that black and Hispanic players are better suited to playing in the sun and heat than white players.

So I take it you don't see the difference those two comments?

[topane]

Originally posted by Cantacuzene


So I take it you don't see the difference those two comments? It's basically the same thing Jimmy the Greek said all those years ago that got his ass fired.

[cheapie]

Originally posted by Cantacuzene


Notice that I didn't put quotes around it. I was talkign about the context and meaning of what he said, not the xact words.


you lost a little bit of my respect here. while i usually disagree with you on certain issues, you're usually intellectually honest.

in this instance, you clearly took the easy route and accused rl of saying something he didn't. and then you claimed to put it in "correct" context.

even if you strongly dislike rush and disagree with his statement, his comments weren't racist.

there ARE pressures on certain athletes to perform well to represent their race, age, etc. some of these athletes get elevated to a status that their play wouldn't otherwise deserve.

how much of tiger's celebrity status is due to his african-american heritage? some, most, all? i'm guessing it's only some because he's an incredible golfer.

i don't know if i agree with rush's comments or not. prolly not. mcnabb's pretty good. and people need a hero, whether he can perform at a high level everyday or not. and he's a nice guy. but i'm sick of people jumping all over a comment if a white guy says it, but not the other way around.....

this old story illustrates my point (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/magazine/life_of_reilly/news/2002/01/30/life_of_reilly/)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/images/inside_game/reilly_lifeofreilly_head_lg.gif



Look how white I am. Am I lame or what? Can't jump. Can't dance. Can't run. Can't dress. Can't hang.

It's O.K. I know I'm a pathetic White Guy. I'm at peace with it. In fact I laugh about it all the time. I have to. Black athletes today love to make fun of us White Guys.

Last week, for instance, boxer Mike Tyson had a little fun with white reporter Mark Malinowski at Tyson's press conference-cage match with Lennox Lewis. Grabbing his crotch and using his best prison vocabulary, Tyson challenged Malinowski to fight and then accused him of being "scared like a little white p----" because he wouldn't. In American trash talk today that's three put-downs in a row. Little. White. And p----.

Now if a white heavyweight grabbed his crotch and called a black reporter a "little black p----," he'd be spending the rest of his days playing Parcheesi with Al Campanis and Dan Issel. Nobody, though, demanded that Tyson apologize to Malinowski, least of all Malinowski.

Not to worry, it's cool! Last season Toronto Raptors star Vince Carter came onto the court to discover he was being covered by the Minnesota Timberwolves' Wally Szczerbiak. Carter turned to the Minnesota bench with a smile and said, according to Szczerbiak, "You better get this white guy off me, or I'm going to score 40." (Carter denies referring to Szczerbiak's race.)

Was Carter fined? Suspended? Ordered to spend six weeks in a white-sensitivity workshop? Nah. We're White Guys. What are we going to do, sue?

Sometimes we're not even White Guys. We're White Boys. In his book Shaq Talks Back, Shaquille O'Neal wrote, "If you get dunked on by a white boy, you got to come home to your friends and hear it."

Hilarious! Of course it wouldn't be nearly as funny if, say, David Stern wrote in his book, "If you get outnegotiated by a black boy, you got to go to the country club and hear it." He'd be taped naked to the hood of Jesse Jackson's car. Still, was Shaq rocked by scandal? Did principals pull the book out of school libraries? Nah. Because all us crackers know it's true! If we dunk on you, you really suck!

Besides, anytime you can slip in the phrase white boy these days, it's just damn funny. Now, if you called Jerry Rice a "black boy" or Ichiro Suzuki a "yellow boy" or Notah Begay a "red boy," you'd be begging spare change at a bus station inside a week. But it's fine. We're the last unprotected race, so bash away!

Some White Guys aren't sure it's all that amusing, like Denver Nuggets forward Raef LaFrentz. "When people call me 'white boy,' I take it as an insult," he says. "It's a negative racial term, just like the n word." However, Dallas Mavericks guard Steve Nash says he finds it funny when black guys tell him, "You're pretty good for a white boy."

"Besides," Nash says, "it's pretty accurate, right?"

See, we White Guys know we suck. We hear it all the time. When we hoop, we've got White Man's Disease. When we dance, we've got White Man's Overbite. When we jam, we're just Average White Band. We know if Larry Bird were black, he'd be, as Isiah Thomas said, "just another guy." We know we're supposed to giggle when Charles Barkley says, "See? This is what I hate about white people." He's right! We're all exactly the same!

When ESPN debuted its terrific new talk show, Pardon the Interruption, the preview ads promised it "wasn't pretty." To prove it, host Tony Kornheiser said, "We're old. We're fat. We're bald. And we're white." Then his partner Michael Wilbon, who is black, said, "And one of us is blind." Poor Tony. He's got the big four strikes against him right there. Old. Fat. Bald. And white. Hey, the truth hurts.

We White Guys have faced it. We're wack at most everything. Basically the only thing we dominate now is stuff black people don't have the right clothes to try -- lumberjack contests and luge. But we shred documents like nobody's damn business!

We're not mad. We've come to grips with it. Even when we do something good -- like the three white firemen who raised the U.S. flag at ground zero -- we understand you have to change two of the guys' race to nonwhite when you want to build the statue. Who wants three White Guys hanging around forever?

What, you thought White Guys had feelings?

[Cantacuzene]

I interpreted his comments as racist and thats how I portrayed them. It would have been dishonest to present them in a way different than how I see them. When I say his quote I thought, "wow that was pretty bad." And thats how I chose to present them. If you don't think they were that bad, so be it, but don't say I'm being dishonest because I call them like I see them.

[nickel]

Originally posted by Cantacuzene
.....because I call them like I see them.... and i don't see or respect anyone elses point of view.

[cheapie]

i have no problem with you disliking rush. i'm not particularly fond of him either. he's (or his on-air character is) pompous, impolite, etc.

if you claim that his comments were racially motivated, or that he's a racist, i might disagree but recognize that we have no way of determining if this is the case, and it's a matter of opinion.

however, you mis-quoted him and then claimed to only be putting his words into context. that's another matter entirely.

capite che cosa sto dicendo?

[Cantacuzene]

Whats your problem Nickelback? You seem to really hate me, for what I don't know. I don't do or say anything that warrants your constant vitriolic outbursts. Notice how Cheapbastard and SBP talk about things like adults, whereas you argue like a child. I think you have a problem with people who aren't taken by your internet message board slut persona you try so hard to project. Maybe because I don't pretend to flirt with you like others do you don't like me, but either way, grow up or shut up.

[nickel]

Originally posted by Cantacuzene
Whats your problem Nickelback? You seem to really hate me, for what I don't know. I don't do or say anything that warrants your constant vitriolic outbursts. Notice how Cheapbastard and SBP talk about things like adults, whereas you argue like a child. I think you have a problem with people who aren't taken by your internet message board slut persona you try so hard to project. Maybe because I don't pretend to flirt with you like others do you don't like me, but either way, grow up or shut up.
i love you too angry young man ;)

[Cantacuzene]

Originally posted by cheapbast@rd
however, you mis-quoted him and then claimed to only be putting his words into context. that's another matter entirely.

I inferred that he said,
McNabb was overrated BECAUSE he is black. What part of that isn't congruent with what he said? He said that the media has trumped him up because they want a black quarterback to suceed, ie. he was overrated by the media because he is black. Thats remarkably similar to what I said for a paraphrase, except I didn't mention the media and he did.

[Cantacuzene]

Originally posted by nickelback
angry young man ;)

You always say that, and I've yet to understand what it means. Who am I angry at? I'd love to know, because I was totally unaware that I was so filled with anger.

[nickel]

Originally posted by Cantacuzene


You always say that, and I've yet to understand what it means. Who am I angry at? I'd love to know, because I was totally unaware that I was so filled with anger.
admitting it will be the first step to your recovery.

[Cantacuzene]

I suspected you wouldn't have a good answer.

[nickel]

I suspected you could never admit that either.

[LPMiller]

I don't think it's racist to say Rush thinks that the QB is being boosted because the NFL wants more black QB's - this isn't exactly a secret. The NFL is trying like mad to work in folks of color in roles you don't normally see them. The problem is, there doesn't appear to me to be a lot of folks stepping up to fill those roles.

What it is, however, is highly insulting to McNabb to say that people only LIKE him because he's black, which is what Rush sure as heck implied. He's saying that his position as a QB is only because he is black, and that just isn't true. He may be erractied, but he does in fact have talent, and to imply he is only there because of his skin color really insults McNabb.

[raimin]

Originally posted by Cantacuzene
Well look at what happened, he made comments that could be taken as racist. Then he resigned. The resignation is sorta like an admission of guilt.

But who cares about this scandal, Rush is a pill addict anyway. He better 'rush' to rehab. :bandit:

I don't think it's a admission of guilt. It's a way to avoid controversy for espn and the show. already NAACP, democratic party, etc. are up in arms against espn and the show.

Rush enjoys doing the show, loves the show, and thinks this is best for the show

[eSDee]

Limbaugh's statements weren't racist, they were just ignorant and unfair. He basically through out all the accomplishments of McNabb as something attributed to his only because of his race. That's ignorant. McNabb is an incredible athlete who has pulled off some pretty incredible feats(including throwing 4 touchdowns with a broken leg). Is he the most consistent quarterback ever? No. Which is why Limbaugh's initial part of the statement could be correct. Is he overrated? Possibly. Probably if you only read the Philly sports writers columns who think he can do no wrong. Is he given more credit as a quarterback because he is Black? Extremely doubtful. There are other Black quarterbacks in the league who are not very good and are not put up on pedestals because they are black. Mc Nabb is good and some times unstoppable, which is why people still sing his praises.

Limbaugh said "the media" meaning more than your occasional Mc Nabb- fan writer was doing this as a collective effort. That just sounds like another "conspiracy" that Limbaugh is always talking about which atleast in this case, holds no merit. Stating it detracts from his accomplishments and is understandably insulting.

I don't think that his statements are inherently racist. I just believe it is more of the dellusional rhetoric that he usually puts out. I also know that there is a double standard which I agree should be addressed. In this case though, I think it was appropriate for Limbaugh to either apologize or resign.

[raimin]

He's saying that his position as a QB is only because he is black, and that just isn't true. He may be erractied, but he does in fact have talent, and to imply he is only there because of his skin color really insults McNabb.

No rush did not say he shouldn't be a quaterback. I don;t even see how it's implied. He says media is overrating him. Rush said he was overrated. Not that he is a QB because he is black

[cheapie]

Originally posted by Cantacuzene


I inferred that he said

you have the right to infer all you want. however, that should be noted when quoting someone.


Originally posted by Cantacuzene

What part of that isn't congruent with what he said? He said that the media has trumped him up because they want a black quarterback to suceed, ie. he was overrated by the media because he is black. Thats remarkably similar to what I said for a paraphrase, except I didn't mention the media and he did.

while it may seem like a matter of semantics, there is a difference.

if the comment was, "he's overrated because he's black," i take that to mean that all black qb's are generally good and he is listed with them whether he deserves it or not.

if the comment was, "...The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well, black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve....," i understand it to mean that, well, exactly what he said.

i will infer that he means that black football players have been lauded for their play in other positions, but most of the highly recognized qb's have been white. and because of this, many in the media want an african-american to achieve the same status as montana, manning, johnny u, etc., and they are, perhaps inadvertently, prematurely elevating mcnabb to the status of the aforementioned quarterbacks.

is this true? dunno. but i don't believe it's racism to raise the question.

[eSDee]

Cheapbastard, I don't think he is raising the question. He is saying that it is a fact. I can see where you are coming from but he did not say all Black quarterbacks are being given more credit that their worth, he said Mc Nabb was given more credit because he was Black.

[cheapie]

Originally posted by eSDeeLoco
Cheapbastard, I don't think he is raising the question. He is saying that it is a fact. I can see where you are coming from but he did not say all Black quarterbacks are being given more credit that their worth, he said Mc Nabb was given more credit because he was Black.

as i stated, i interpret what he said to mean that those that badly want a black qb to rock have nominated mcnabb as the chosen one when his actual stats haven't justified doing so.

while i don't know that this is the case, i certainly think mike wilbon of PTI is guilty of this to a certain extent. he's constantly going on and on about how mcnabb is the greatest (yes, i am exaggerating) ever and how he and mcnair, vick, and what'shisnameonthevikings are the future of qb's and blah blah blah.....

ps. i love wilbon except for this issue.

[johnnymk]

Originally posted by eSDeeLoco
. Probably if you only read the Philly sports writers columns who think he can do no wrong.


Sorry, but the newspapers around here are just as hard on Philly teams as the fans are. As a matter of fact, after the second loss of this season, the newspapers were ready to crucify McNabb and the coach.

[eSDee]

Originally posted by johnnymk


Sorry, but the newspapers around here are just as hard on Philly teams as the fans are. As a matter of fact, after the second loss of this season, the newspapers were ready to crucify McNabb and the coach.

Actually I kind of figured that as Philly seems to be famous for letting their athletes have it(ie "Boo-Birds" for the Phillies). However I know that sometimes writers will see their athletes with rose- colored glasses even when the guy is a bum from the start(ie Ryan "knock it off" Leaf for SD).

[le_stick]

IMHO, Rush is a moron/racist/prejudiced SOB. Therefore, whatever comment(s) he made is worthless.....

[raimin]

Another raspberry affect :D

sounds like Post columnist William Raspberry all over again...how many of you who are calling him a racist listen to his show or read a book...

[le_stick]

I barely watched his show, because I just could not sit there and listen to his B.S. IMHO, of course. I guess each person has his/her own idea of everything.....

[DaFunkyUnit]

Originally posted by le_stick
IMHO, Rush is a moron/racist/prejudiced SOB. Therefore, whatever comment(s) he made is worthless.....

he's also a drug addict

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/GMA/US/GMA031003Limbaugh.html

Tough Times
Rush Limbaugh Ends One Public Problem and Faces Another



Oct. 3— Just after he resigned his ESPN gig because of comments he made about a black quarterback's performance, Rush Limbaugh could be facing the heat again. ABCNEWS has learned new details about his alleged ties to a black-market drug ring.



A high-ranking official in Florida has told ABCNEWS some surprising details about the state's investigation of Rush Limbaugh.

ABCNEWS has confirmed that radio mega-star Rush Limbaugh is being investigated for allegedly buying illegal prescription drugs near his Palm Beach, Fla., home. Palm Beach authorities had no official comment.

"We don't comment on investigations," said Mike Edmondson, a spokesman for the Palm Beach County State Attorney's Office.

But a source close to the investigation told ABCNEWS that Limbaugh's former housekeeper claims she helped Limbaugh purchase thousands of prescription painkillers over a four-year period — at times in the parking lot of a local Denny's restaurant. Among the drugs she says she purchased: the powerful painkiller OxyContin.

The source also says investigators have audiotapes of at least two drug transactions — allegedly with Limbaugh's voice — but these were recorded secretly by the former housekeeper, not by police.

Premiere Radio Networks, which syndicates the politically focused Rush Limbaugh Show to more than 650 markets, issued a statement from Limbaugh on Thursday saying: "I am unaware of any investigation by any authority involving me. No government representative has contacted me directly or indirectly. If my assistance is required, I will, of course, cooperate fully."

If the allegations prove true, the talk show host will undoubtedly need to address some of his past comments about drug abuse.

Back in 1995, Limbaugh told his audience on the syndicated Rush Limbaugh, The Television Show that people who are obtaining drugs illegally should be held responsible.

"Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up," he said to his audience during the broadcast.

Media Columnist Michael Wolff says Limbaugh's career might not be able to survive a drug charge.

"It would be labeled as an instance of incredible hypocrisy … Mr. Family values, Mr. Tough on Crime," Wolff said.

At risk for Limbaugh, not just his credibility, but a media empire that has earned his networks and stations more than a billion dollars since 1988.

"If this is a felony we're talking about here, than this is the end of Rush Limbaugh. That's it," Wolff said.

Limbaugh gave up his job as an ESPN sports analyst late Wednesday, three days after saying on the sports network's Sunday NFL Countdown that Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb was overrated because the media wanted to see a black quarterback succeed.

ABCNEWS' Bob Woodruff contributed to this report.

[jase71]

As much as I disagree with Rush, and as much as he annoys the hell out of me, it wasn't what he said that was the problem... it was where he said it.

I don't think it met the standards of "racist". But it was controversial. And inappropriate for the forum it was offered in.

He's entitled to his opinions. He has freedom of speech like the rest of us. But ESPN hired him for his sports opinions, not his political ones. ESPN paid him and gave him air time to express those sports opinions, not the political ones.

I recall reading all kinds of posts from people (not here) who expounded at great length on how Rush was smart enough to keep the politics out of his sports commentary. He could seperate the two. He was a professional, and would never let the one bleed over to the other.

That lasted... four weeks. :rolleyes:

Rush said nothing that would have been out of place on his own show. Rush said nothing that would have been an issue if it would have been thrown out in a political context. It was valid (if misguided) social commentary.

But it was offered on a sports program, looking for sports commentary, not political discourse.

So ESPN had a perfect right to whack him (or to encourage him to resign).

Rush is under no obligation to give liberals a fair, equal chance on his own program. And he doesn't. He mocks them, cuts them off, and screens them out. That's fine. He's not under any obligation to provide them a platform for speech he disagrees with.

Apex is free to monitor the content of his website, and free to ban any user he feels has crossed the lines he sets as appropriate. He's not under any obligation to provide a platform for those he disagrees with.

Likewise ESPN is under no obligation to provide Rush with a platform to spread his political ideology. He got a chance to survive on his sports insight. But he chose to abuse that opportunity by dragging in politics. Just like Rush cuts off liberals, ESPN cut off Rush. For the same reasons.

[Nija]

Originally posted by jase71
*snipped*

Bravo *standing ovation* You rock. Have I told you that lately? No? well then, You sir, Rock. Rock Hard. Rock out with your.. well.. :P

[sbp]

Originally posted by cheapbast@rd
as i stated, i interpret what he said to mean that those that badly want a black qb to rock have nominated mcnabb as the chosen one when his actual stats haven't justified doing so.

while i don't know that this is the case, i certainly think mike wilbon of PTI is guilty of this to a certain extent. he's constantly going on and on about how mcnabb is the greatest (yes, i am exaggerating) ever and how he and mcnair, vick, and what'shisnameonthevikings are the future of qb's and blah blah blah.....

ps. i love wilbon except for this issue. Wilbon is a Washington Post columnist and he definitely does this.

"he's also a drug addict" Maybe, maybe not-we'll have to wait and see what happens with it. Just realize it was the National Enquirer that broke the story and there is moola involved. The Enquirer paid the Clines a six-figure fee for their story, according to the source. (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,98871,00.html)

I'm sure next time one of these non-white guys makes a boneheaded comment in the improper setting they'll be held to task and fired? Yeah right. http://home.earthlink.net/~sbp777/smilies/bleh.gif

Its nice the NAACP and the 3 Democratic stooges {Dean, Sharpton and Clark who demanded Limbaugh be fired} have their priorities straight. Hey how about turning some of that outrage on the pathetic DC government run school system which is supposed to educate 67,000 students {most of which are minorities}.

[dbax791]

Originally posted by sbp

"he's also a drug addict" Maybe, maybe not-we'll have to wait and see what happens with it.

I'll wager any amount of $ he is. I listened briefly to his opening on his radio show, and the jist of it was he wouldn't comment because he was not sure of the status of the investigation.

If he had no problem all he had to do was say "I do not use illegal prescription drugs" end of story and he could sue the enquirer/NY Post.

Actually I think his comments were "racist" - while they were totally asinine and without any basis in fact, he felt the need to say the media was promoting McNabb because they wanted to see a black QB succeed. Shows his line of thought and that he draws a distinction in his mind about the race of a QB.

Heck, the media does overly promote players, but in the NFL never because of race IMO. We had it here with "The next coming of Joe Montana" (Jake, the "human-interception-machine" Plummer).

(BTW, Denver fans, you are being deluded - Jake throws at least 2 picks tomorrow! ;) )

[dbax791]

Originally posted by dbax791


I'll wager any amount of $ he is.

Too bad nobody took me up on it.

He admitted his addiction today.

(I'm lame for replying to my own post BTW)

[sbp]

We've seen this happen before numerous times with different folks.

Wish I could say this was a surprise but considering Limbaugh's health problems, its not.

Here's hoping everything turns out well.

[TofuNinja]

Originally posted by Cantacuzene
Whats your problem Nickelback? You seem to really hate me, for what I don't know. I don't do or say anything that warrants your constant vitriolic outbursts. Notice how Cheapbastard and SBP talk about things like adults, whereas you argue like a child. I think you have a problem with people who aren't taken by your internet message board slut persona you try so hard to project. Maybe because I don't pretend to flirt with you like others do you don't like me, but either way, grow up or shut up.

hehehe the world revolves around one poster and one poster only. :heh:

Didn't you say something like this to me and Xsiled2? :cool:

Oh well. Carry on. I mean you're right... you have to be... you must be... your Canta, and Canta is never wrong :P

[cheapie]

Originally posted by TofuNinja


hehehe the world revolves around one poster and one poster only. :heh:

Didn't you say something like this to me and Xsiled2? :cool:

Oh well. Carry on. I mean you're right... you have to be... you must be... your Canta, and Canta is never wrong :P

hey. HEY! this thread was going along nicely for the last couple of days or so....

[TofuNinja]

yes yes I know and I was surprised that it was going so well seeing that Rush is a hated man. It was just funny. Besides I am Canta's dumbest person alive I am allowed by Canta to say dumb things :) I have a mandate from him or something :P

[whitak24]

Originally posted by jase71
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nice. very nice :thumb:

i guess this helps sort out what i've been thinking about the whole issue. i think it's difficult to argue that rush's comments were racist per se, although i think they are pretty strongly racially motivated (as far as trying to use racial politics of polarization to advance a political agenda), and in the context of the other stuff rush says, the default assumption tends to be that they are racists comments.

however, it clear that they were uttered in the wrong forum and were completely out of line with what rush was there to do, and that was to comment on football, not socio-racial politics.

[johnnymk]

Originally posted by whitak24
the default assumption tends to be that they are racists comments.



Very good..I like that :thumbup:

[topane]

Originally posted by Nija


Bravo *standing ovation* You rock. Have I told you that lately? No? well then, You sir, Rock. Rock Hard. Rock out with your.. well.. :P :stupid:

Nice to see you on the boards again, jase71.

[johnnymk]

The local papers are really going after McNabb after the latest loss to the Cowboys. They are saying that McNabb has lost his stuff, that he's no longer the player he once was and wondering why the coach is allowing him to keep playing. That's what I am wondering, too.

[cheapie]

he'll be okay. his team isn't exactly helping him out tho.

i picked him up in my fantasy league hoping he'll help me during favre's off week.