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spigidygak

10-16-2003, 11:30 AM

http://www.apple.com/itunes/ . . . and download!

Just released today, its the same as the mac version. Full, free and even with its great smart playlists :). Also for the music store, the same deal on rights. You download it and own it, you can burn a song 10 times in one playlist, then have to create a new playlist if ou want to burn it more. . . basicaly burn as you please. Also uses AAC which is good stuff.

Also addition of audible.com material, you can preview books, npr shows and what not. Cool thing is integration with ipod, listen on your ipod to a book, pause it somewhere, come home sync the ipod and start playing the book on itunes right where you left off.

But. . . the best part especially for all of you dorm living people, iTunes library share works with mac and windows, this is one of the best things about itunes.

ribitch

10-16-2003, 11:38 AM

cool as hell. (being that it has frozen over now)
http://a772.g.akamai.net/7/772/51/242d2b3b4cc609/www.apple.com/home/images/2003/10/itunestitle10162003.gif

cheapie

10-16-2003, 12:29 PM

i just downloaded it. i'm interested in using it. believe it or not, i'm one of the four or five people out there that felt guilty about dling songs w/o paying for them and don't have any illegal music. i'm willing to pay for a clear conscience and this looks interesting.

ribitch

10-16-2003, 01:00 PM

i dled it for my work system. The dl was slow though. Their servers are being flooded!!

this is huge for apple.

100 million free songs given away from pepsi
aol partnership

Apple just had a 140% increase of iPod sales. I am curious on what this will do for them. They should allow the itms gift certs carry over to the apple store (they may already, i havent checked into it)

spigidygak

10-16-2003, 01:14 PM

Just d/l'ed it for my htpc. . . and MAN i'm in love with it now. Works just like the mac one and now no more using winamp to get the songs off of my main machine (a powermac ;)). I just load up itunes use the library share and simple as that. All I can say is sAH-WHEEEEEET. Oh yeah and for those of you wondering, this so far looks like an excellent port. Not buggy or slow like how quicktime can be.

jase71

10-16-2003, 01:14 PM

I want a Linux client for it now...

I had an Emusic subscription. Let it lapse after I had what I wanted, and figured I'd subscribe again when they had enough new content to justify it... and then they whacked the unlimited download plan.

Looking for a replacement I can use with Linux...

Come on, Apple. It shouldn't be that tough. OSX is just BSD with extra eye candy... Linux should be an easy port...

cheapie

10-16-2003, 01:15 PM

i just bought 10 songs. we'll see how i like it. the player is nice. real nice.

cheapie

10-16-2003, 01:22 PM

and the streaming radio stations? dayummm....they did the whole package correctly.

Cubsfan

10-16-2003, 01:23 PM

So is this whole thing a mechanism to drive song sales? Sounds like everything besides that they're giving away for free.

cheapie

10-16-2003, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by Cubsfan
So is this whole thing a mechanism to drive song sales? Sounds like everything besides that they're giving away for free.

doesn't that tell you something about the industry's margins?

spigidygak

10-16-2003, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by Cubsfan
So is this whole thing a mechanism to drive song sales? Sounds like everything besides that they're giving away for free.

that and to promote more iPod sales. They already have 30% of mp3 player shares and thats with over 1.4 million units sold now. Also keep in mind Apple makes near didly squat on song sales. The music labels get about 60-70 cents per song rest is for apple which isn't much considering they have to keep the server farms up and fast.

Leon

10-16-2003, 02:21 PM

Man, iTunes rocks! I stopped using my iPod for a while because Musicmatch was so bloated and unintuitive. How did I live so long without it?

ribitch

10-16-2003, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by Leon
Man, iTunes rocks! I stopped using my iPod for a while because Musicmatch was so bloated and unintuitive. How did I live so long without it?

its been here on the mac for awhile......

the experience is much better on a mac too. Its more responsive (the app, the online store was slow due to the massive demand today) on the mac than it is on windows

ray

10-16-2003, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by cheapie
i just downloaded it. i'm interested in using it. believe it or not, i'm one of the four or five people out there that felt guilty about dling songs w/o paying for them and don't have any illegal music. i'm willing to pay for a clear conscience and this looks interesting.

I admit that i download music, but I DO end up buying a whole boatload after i've had a chance to preview the albums. Last month I spent about $250 on new retail packaged music and then another 150 or so on used music.

For the few singles and remixes that I may want, without buying an entire album, you can be sure i'll be using iTunes. I have been waiting for ANYBODY to release a windows platform service that offers .mp3 or .aac and since Apple was the first, I shall utilize their service.

All the other services may have larger libraries and sometimes cheaper fees, but i don't feel like converting .wma files to .mp3 or .aac.

Cantacuzene

10-16-2003, 04:21 PM

I don't have a use for this. I don't have an ipod, so all I'd need is an mp3 player. As a standalone mp3 player I don't like Itunes. Winamp 2.xx is far simpler and more intuitive. I don't need a thing to make play lists and libraries for me, I can handle that myself. Its just bloatware to me. I'm sure if I was an ipod owner I would thank the gods I didn't have to use music match anymore, but for me it has too many unnecsary features.

LPMiller

10-16-2003, 05:06 PM

Neither Musicmatch or iTunes is bloatware - sheesh.

Having said that, iTunes, while nice, doesn't do me a lot of good, since my Nomad doesn't support ACC. If I could buy music in mp3 format, I'd be happier.

glagic

10-16-2003, 08:07 PM

do any mp3 players besides the ipod suppor the acc format?

edit...also does making all my mp3s in the acc format save space or do anything to them?

bachviet

10-16-2003, 09:02 PM

Can't afford iPod so there is no use for iTunes. WinAmp 2.8x is still my favorite.

spigidygak

10-16-2003, 10:04 PM

Originally posted by glagic
do any mp3 players besides the ipod suppor the acc format?

edit...also does making all my mp3s in the acc format save space or do anything to them?

It actually is AAC not ACC. And as far as I know currently there are no other players that support it, but I could be wrong. Secondly, the space is saved because it is in effect a better codec than MP3. If you encode a song into MP3 at 128k and AAC at the same both files will be about the same size, however the quality is better on AAC, so in a sense you could be encoding with AAC at a lower bit rate and still be getting a great sound with a smaller file size. For example, I was encoding MP3s at 192k and now I'm encoding at 160k AAC which sounds about the same, if not better and I save a bit of room.

eSDee

10-17-2003, 12:47 AM

Killer App!

cheapie

10-17-2003, 05:14 AM

tell me if i'm stupid here....i dl'ed 12 songs. however, i couldn't dl them as mp3. i wanted to put them on my axim so i had to burn them onto a disc as regular music files, and then pull them off with windows media and put them on my hd as mp3 files and then put them on my axim.

LPMiller

10-17-2003, 06:11 AM

Originally posted by cheapie
tell me if i'm stupid here....i dl'ed 12 songs. however, i couldn't dl them as mp3. i wanted to put them on my axim so i had to burn them onto a disc as regular music files, and then pull them off with windows media and put them on my hd as mp3 files and then put them on my axim.

So that worked ok? I was wondering about that.

cheapie

10-17-2003, 06:12 AM

yeah. it worked perfectly. just a bit cumbersome.

seqiro

10-17-2003, 07:34 AM

First of all, I love iTunes and am very glad to have it on my PC. Here's a question: is there a way to make iTunes not go to the next song? I want iTunes to be my default audio player, but I won't be able to if there is no way to change that.

For example, let's say I have a wav file on my hard drive that is three seconds long that I want to hear because I'm going to assign it to some event. When I double-click on it, it plays that wav file but it adds it to the library and then crossfades into the next song. I saw how to eliminate the crossfade and to make it repeat the same track or repeat all tracks, but I can't seem to make it just play the one song I choose.

If I can't get it to work, I'll just leave media player as my default audio player and load iTunes when I want to play music.

spigidygak

10-17-2003, 09:46 AM

spigidygak

10-17-2003, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by seqiro
First of all, I love iTunes and am very glad to have it on my PC. Here's a question: is there a way to make iTunes not go to the next song? I want iTunes to be my default audio player, but I won't be able to if there is no way to change that.

For example, let's say I have a wav file on my hard drive that is three seconds long that I want to hear because I'm going to assign it to some event. When I double-click on it, it plays that wav file but it adds it to the library and then crossfades into the next song. I saw how to eliminate the crossfade and to make it repeat the same track or repeat all tracks, but I can't seem to make it just play the one song I choose.

If I can't get it to work, I'll just leave media player as my default audio player and load iTunes when I want to play music.

Sorry you can't really do that since itunes is a jukebox player and not just a simple player like winamp. Reason why on my system I have the quicktime the default program to open up audio files so that I can hear sound files without having to hear other songs. You can turn off the auto copy to your library if you want though.

seqiro

10-17-2003, 10:24 AM

That sounds like what I'll have to do then. Either way, I've always liked iTunes and it will be my default jukebox choice now. :cool:

LPMiller

10-18-2003, 11:36 AM

It does sound nice, but I'm still a fan of musicmatch - of course, I don't have an ipod to deal with.

I tried the Musicmatch download service last night, which uses the same rule set as iTunes, just less songs and they use WMA.

Well, I bought I song, and then I downloaded the same song off of Kazaa in mp3 format. The WMA song was at 160kps, the mp3 at 128 VBR.

The WMA sounded....eh. Tinny. A little hollow. The mp3 was much more vibrant.

I dunno, I've heard wma files sound better than that, so either they aren't encoding very well, or wma isn't as good as I thought it was.

spigidygak

10-18-2003, 01:58 PM

yeah, wma is still a weak codec imo. AAC sounds a bit better than mp3 to me, has a more fuller and natural sound. Reminds me closer to the ATRAC minidisc format which is superio to Mp3, to me just has this unnatural amount of bass to it and something else weird I can't really describe. One thing I like itunes over musicmatch that you may want to check out is smart playlists.

DankNstickY

10-19-2003, 02:24 AM

speaking of ATRAC, would itunes work with a minidisc player? i dont really like that OpenGM app my MD came with. i wanna know if it's worth the dl or not.

cheapie

10-23-2003, 08:16 PM

upgrade to 4.1 already. prob. fixed some of the probs. i've already encountered.

spigidygak

10-24-2003, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by cheapie
upgrade to 4.1 already. prob. fixed some of the probs. i've already encountered.

Actually its 4.1.1 ;) heheh. . .

to the MD question, there isn't a direct interface program to mini disc, although you can just output to the mini disc for real time transfers, but nothing for net md speeds.