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Aristo
07-25-2000, 11:52 PM
The local BMW dealer will only have 8 2001 M3 at the end of this year and there are already 12 people on the pre-ordered list. That means if I REALLY want, I can only hope on getting it next year. Blah!

quest577
07-26-2000, 10:10 AM
Why would anybody care about that?

att
07-26-2000, 10:22 AM
yeah, get over it, the porsche boxter is better anyway. so is the mercedes slk320, go get one of those instead.

pennypinch
07-26-2000, 10:54 AM
I have never, and will never, understand the allure of BMW's, ESPECIALLY the M3.

Aristo
07-26-2000, 03:24 PM
There are way too many boxter in WestWood and SLK 320, too small for me.

att
07-26-2000, 03:41 PM
the slk is too small and the bmw isnt?
the bmw has 47cubic inches of interior room and the slk has 50. overall the bmw is only an inch longer, i dont know how you can feel cramped in one and not the other.

spigidygak
07-26-2000, 08:59 PM
Although the slk and boxster are good recommendations, they are in a complete different class from the m3. If you want something in the similar range, check out the MB CLK 430, they even have an AMG version in the works, only problem is that they are autos. . . unless if you're into that. . . /me prefer manual.

Pdizog
07-26-2000, 10:51 PM
What the!?! Are you guys serious? The M3 is like the ultimate car!
The boxter is tooo slow, and the slk is a stub.
Complete different classes.

hapoo
07-27-2000, 01:27 PM
I FEEL YOUR PAIN dodo90024. BMW's are the best cars in the world!!! http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

CluelessSi
07-27-2000, 01:30 PM
heehe speaking of which are they going to change that bmw sign back to the lt blue shield?


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spigidygak
07-27-2000, 02:50 PM
Apex better not change it!!! At least not until I get 1000 posts to see my name with that Bimmer logo http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/biggrin.gif.

AJ
07-28-2000, 12:02 AM
Subaru SVXs are the best cars ever

pennypinch
07-28-2000, 01:33 PM
and AJ should be sobering up riiiight abouuuut.........now.

AJ
07-28-2000, 01:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pennypinch:
and AJ should be sobering up riiiight abouuuut.........now.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

jealousy is ugly, isn't it folks?

pennypinch
07-28-2000, 02:03 PM
Jealous of your Tupperware-mobile? Ya gotta be joking me!
BTW, I think that address is not for the right guy...but it'd be funny anyway. I think he lives on the east coast somewhere...

Aristo
07-28-2000, 07:20 PM
I actually went to test drive a 2000 non-AMG CLK. The steering is too slow for sporty driving. The power windows is surprising slow. Plus it is more expansive than M3 but with less HP (M3: 330hp, CLK: 275hp). It's still a great car but I think generally overall M3 is better. I also prefer manual. That's what driving is all about. For boxter, I haven't had the chance to drive it but according to the reviews, it ain't as fast as one would expect. At last, for some weird reason, chicks dig beemer. Perhaps for its sporty appearance or the vroom vroom sound, I don't know. Including all those, I think that's why BMW set itself different than the others.

hapoo
07-28-2000, 07:32 PM
i completely agree, especially about the chicks diggin' BMW's http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

AJ
07-28-2000, 08:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pennypinch:
Jealous of your Tupperware-mobile? Ya gotta be joking me!
BTW, I think that address is not for the right guy...but it'd be funny anyway. I think he lives on the east coast somewhere...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

how is it a tupperware mobile? dont understand that crack... ANYWAY that sucks that out cool plans are shot. We had grand visions though...

spigidygak
07-28-2000, 08:47 PM
All the more power to ya, fellow Bimmer fan.

BTW, was that a 320 or 430 clk? The 430 is very nice for a benz.

Apex
07-29-2000, 12:09 AM
I do believe the CLK55 will come in 6-speed manual.

spigidygak
07-29-2000, 01:06 AM
I can give that a go in europe at least, they're probably deciding still for us stick. . .

phlick
07-29-2000, 06:38 AM
Just step on up and get an M5, a manly car. M3 is good and all, but its a boy racer car. That or the MB E55, a true wolf in sheeps clothing. Personally, I would go for a new 540 and then have it massaged by Dinan and then scrape the emblems... someday.... someday!

phlick
07-29-2000, 06:39 AM
BTW, Have you seen the waiting list for the CLK's...? Much worse than the M's. (basically an auction!)

pennypinch
07-29-2000, 09:02 AM
We are getting a CL 55 sometime in October, and I believe it is coming with M-B's tiptronic. Same one in the ML 55. It's alright, seeings as I can't drive manual http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/frown.gif. I still don't understand the allure of having a badass sedan. Either get a sports car or a luxury sedan. Otherwise, it's just silly.

pennypinch
07-29-2000, 09:03 AM
We are getting a CL 55 sometime in October, and I believe it is coming with M-B's tiptronic. Same one in the ML 55. It's alright, seeings as I can't drive manual http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/frown.gif. I still don't understand the allure of having a badass sedan. Either get a sports car or a luxury sedan. Otherwise, it's just silly.

spigidygak
07-29-2000, 10:21 AM
Heh, all of those cars got damn waiting lists. . . M5, M3, E55, CL55. . . that's why you gotta get a stock bimmer like phlick said and take it to Dinan or AC Shnitzer. Or go MB, and take it down to RennTech. . . mmmmm E65. . .

AJ
07-29-2000, 02:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pennypinch:
We are getting a CL 55 sometime in October, and I believe it is coming with M-B's tiptronic. Same one in the ML 55. It's alright, seeings as I can't drive manual http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/frown.gif. I still don't understand the allure of having a badass sedan. Either get a sports car or a luxury sedan. Otherwise, it's just silly.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

who is "we"? work for a car dealer?

coleslaw
07-29-2000, 04:58 PM
appx how much does the new M3 and M5 sell for??

pennypinch
07-29-2000, 06:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AJ:
who is "we"? work for a car dealer?

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
No, not a car dealership, my family.

Pdizog
07-29-2000, 06:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by coleslaw:
appx how much does the new M3 and M5 sell for??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The highest bidder! All m3 and m5 models are already spoken for for the next year.

hapoo
07-29-2000, 07:54 PM
How about a Hartge tuned 3-series http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
5 liter 450hp engine http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/eek.gif all in a light(er) 3-series body

Aristo
07-29-2000, 09:07 PM
I spoke with BMW sales person. The MSRP for 2001 BMW M3 hasn't decided yet but something around 50k and 1k for getting on the waiting list. MSRP for M5 is about 70k. Indeed, I wish I could afford a M5. I should have bought more NVDA stocks back then. <snap>

No doubt M3 is a boy's car, that's what I want it to be. I want to be serious, MB S-class would be it. That's another story.

Aristo
07-29-2000, 09:11 PM
By the way, any BMW or Mercedes dealers in this forum? Perhaps you could hook up me w/some deals eh? Like 20 dollars off in my first purchase <idea from buy.com>. Just kidding. :-p

hapoo
07-30-2000, 12:47 AM
actually my best friends dad owns 2 pre-owned MB and BMW dealerships.

Aristo
07-30-2000, 02:36 PM
in LA area?

hapoo
07-30-2000, 03:12 PM
yep

target
07-31-2000, 12:23 AM
the z8's ever go into production?

att
07-31-2000, 10:43 AM
what? lets get a group deal going on then, like a fleet deal.

Paladin
08-09-2000, 08:49 PM
Target is wishing again. And If he ever gets a BMW I will take the Jeep off of his hands for him.