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coleslaw
11-03-2003, 08:27 PM
Don't you just love the new KFC commercial?
Hey, you look great! What'cha been up to?
Eatin' chicken!
Only 11g of carbs and 40g of protein*
That must mean that it's good for you!
*not a low-fat, low-sodium, low-cholesterol food.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Markel
11-03-2003, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by coleslaw
Only 11g of carbs and 40g of protein*
...and 120g of fat....
http://www.kfc.com/kitchen/nutrition.htm
An original recipe fried chicken breast has 16 g of fat, just FYI
ONE biscuit has 10 g of fat :eek: wow, i love biscuits too...
Markel
11-03-2003, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by skiAtomic
[url]An original recipe fried chicken breast has 16 g of fat, just FYI
What?!!?? Do you mean to tell me I was exaggerating?!!?? :P
dbax791
11-03-2003, 08:53 PM
It's all the Atkins craze. Fat OK, carbs bad!
Originally posted by Markel
What?!!?? Do you mean to tell me I was exaggerating?!!?? :P
Ohhhh, no no no, not to your 120 g, I was comparing it to the amount of carbs and protein they advertise, no offense, hopefully none taken :halo:
Markel
11-03-2003, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by skiAtomic
no offense, hopefully none taken :halo:
That's why I included the :P
:)
nickel
11-04-2003, 05:26 AM
mmmmm, KFC
everything in moderation :D
blueindian
11-04-2003, 05:31 AM
Originally posted by dbax791
It's all the Atkins craze. Fat OK, carbs bad!
yup. people don't even look at the rest of the nutrition label any more.
topane
11-04-2003, 06:49 AM
Originally posted by blueindian
yup. people don't even look at the rest of the nutrition label any more. For years all people did was look at fat. They didn't care that 97% of the calories were from sugar. Also, Atkins isn't "carbs bad".
Merlin
11-04-2003, 07:07 AM
I've heard the if you take the skin off then KFC is actually pretty good. It is the skin that has the bulk of the fat/cholesterol.
But I still ain't eating there more than once a year as it takes about that long for the grease to stop coming out my pores. :puke:
blueindian
11-04-2003, 07:08 AM
Originally posted by topane
For years all people did was look at fat. They didn't care that 97% of the calories were from sugar. Also, Atkins isn't "carbs bad".
i've never read the atkins book, but all i know is that everyone i've ever known do go on that diet said, "carbs bad". further, all the atkins products i've seen promenintly display "low carb" on the label, and other low carb products i've seen say "perfect for the atkins diet" on the label.
and just because all people ever cared about before was fat does not make it appropriate now to only care about carbs vs protein. vitamins and minerals are still important.
Dave_7
11-04-2003, 07:53 AM
Well, I'll say... everyone I know who did the Atkins diet and stuck to it has lost heaps of fat from their bod.
It just works. And they eat like crazy. And their cholesterol even goes DOWN!
No kidding.
Dave.
chrissy
11-04-2003, 08:08 AM
Donnie has done his "own version" of the Atkins. He never went totally without carbs or extremely low for the induction. He went straight "low carbs". He keeps them between 10 -20g a day.
We eat/ did eat a lot of carbs in this house. Once you look at everything that has carbs -- fruit, pasta, breads, cake, pie, ice cream and beer-- there are a lot of sugars being stored up by our bodies that sit in storage. We have cut a lot of that out. The kids and I still take in a lot -- fruits = good carbs :) but he has done very well. He, if you all remember, has been struggleing with his weight for a couple years. He has a belly. Plain and simple. It's where his body chose to store fat. Unfortunately, the military measures the belly for BMI. In the past two years, he has yet to be under 200 lobs without some starvation (Hollywood diet) type program to pass the measurement tests he had been required to go to.
I am not saying that low carb is for everyone, but it is working here.
bachviet
11-04-2003, 08:11 AM
Who in here likes Popeye better than KFC? If you want to eat healthy, eat tofu not fried chickens.
topane
11-04-2003, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by blueindian
i've never read the atkins book, but all i know is that everyone i've ever known do go on that diet said, "carbs bad". further, all the atkins products i've seen promenintly display "low carb" on the label, and other low carb products i've seen say "perfect for the atkins diet" on the label.Those people are either in the induction phase (1-2 weeks of ultra low carbs) or plain stupid. On Atkins you get plenty of veggies and stuff once you start adding carbs back in after the induction phase. It's more "controlled" than "low" carb.
Speaking of stupid low-carb products, how about those "low-carb" beers? Your body treats alcohol as a carbohydrate; low-carb beers are useless on such a diet.
zenbooty
11-04-2003, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by bachviet
Who in here likes Popeye better than KFC? If you want to eat healthy, eat tofu not fried chickens. :wavey: Popeye's spicy is so much better!
chrissy
11-04-2003, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by topane
Speaking of stupid low-carb products, how about those "low-carb" beers? Your body treats alcohol as a carbohydrate; low-carb beers are useless on such a diet.
Yeah, they are pretty lame. Alcohol will totally kick you out of ketosis, which is what low carb dieting, Atkins, is mostly about.
welfareloser
11-04-2003, 08:49 AM
high protein/low carb... say goodbye to your liver and kidneys. you lose weight, but the price is high. nobody's listened to me yet, but i will be proven right in ten years.
americans just can't do anything in moderation. a "natural" diet has up to 15% of calories from protein, about 60-70% from carbohydrates, mostly complex, and the rest, 20-30% from fat. going for more protein and fewer simple carbohydrates is an excellent idea.
atkins is 60% protein and 10-15% carbohydrates. it's absurd. your body can't do that for very long. people should eat a lot of whole grains and vegetables.
here is a good diet for damned near everyone: as many vegetables in as great a variety as you can stand. little to no refined sugar, bleached flour, and overly processed (ie, salty, flour-and-sugar based, high saturated fat) foods. low salt. only as many calories as you need. moderate fat with small amounts of "bad" meat.
but everyone prefers to lose weight eating kfc rather than carrot sticks. whatever. it's not healthy. if enough people do it, it must be okay :rolleyes: and it's sure as heck better than eating right and *gasp* exercising.
Jeffbx
11-04-2003, 08:56 AM
Originally posted by welfareloser
here is a good diet for damned near everyone: as many vegetables in as great a variety as you can stand. little to no refined sugar, bleached flour, and overly processed (ie, salty, flour-and-sugar based, high saturated fat) foods. low salt. only as many calories as you need. moderate fat with small amounts of "bad" meat.
:stupid:
Eat right & exercise. Don't pay attention to fad diets. I know that's easier for some people to say than others, but it actually works. And when you work out, you'll typically have to *increase* the number of calories you take in. Don't starve your body.
Cantacuzene
11-04-2003, 09:14 AM
I can't wait for KFC to have their own Jared Fogle. "I ATE CHICKEN 24/7 FOR TWO YEARS AND I LOST 15 POUNDS!! THEN I HAD A HEART ATTACK!"
I started to up my fruits, veggies, and chicken/beef/protein in my diet, and get "Low Fat" or "Reduced Fat" versions of my snackin' food (Wheat Thins, Ritz), and have plenty of breads and calcium based foods.
Works well with running/lifting. Hopefully I'll never have to change my diet
blueindian
11-04-2003, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by welfareloser
the correct view of the atkins diet.
you said it sister.
Airencracken
11-04-2003, 10:41 AM
Guy eating a bucket of KFC. "It's okay I had subway!"
:heh:
Hey, KFC is good. I don't give a rat's a** how much fat/carbs/etc is in there, besides I eat about 4000-5000 calories a day. Yes, and I weigh 132lbs. :D
Nobody I know buys KFC and eats it without the skin. I mean, come on. The skin is the outside part (duh), so that's where all the batter is (be it Original Recipe, Extra Crispy, whatever). If you're going to take the skin off you might as well buy plain chicken. It's probly a lot cheapier and still healthier.
That said, I'm not a big KFC fan... although I love their [apparently fatty] biscuits. KFC is okay once in a while, but by once in a while I mean once or twice a year maybe. They need to make Honey Barbecue chicken... the sauce rocks but their H.B. wings are too small.
welfareloser
11-04-2003, 11:03 AM
i looove kfc... once or twice a year, too. the honey bbq is too sweet for me, i gakk on it.
popeye's rules.
if you want REAL greasebombs, tho, you must get church's chicken in north st louis. mmmmmmmmmmmm...
bella
11-04-2003, 11:07 AM
mmmmm the Twister :lick:
Originally posted by welfareloser
high protein/low carb... say goodbye to your liver and kidneys.....
We just learned about this in class this morning. It sure doesn't seem smart to me to subject your bady to this.
Merlin
11-04-2003, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by welfareloser
i looove kfc... once or twice a year, too. the honey bbq is too sweet for me, i gakk on it.
popeye's rules.
if you want REAL greasebombs, tho, you must get church's chicken in north st louis. mmmmmmmmmmmm...
I love the way we're gettin' more ghetto. As you go from KFC to Popeyes to Church's the neighborhood gets nastier.
Whenever I see a Church's I make sure the car door is locked!
topane
11-04-2003, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by welfareloser
high protein/low carb... say goodbye to your liver and kidneys. you lose weight, but the price is high. nobody's listened to me yet, but i will be proven right in ten years.Maybe you will, but there's no evidence of that yet.
americans just can't do anything in moderation. Amen, sister.
a "natural" diet has up to 15% of calories from protein, about 60-70% from carbohydrates, mostly complex, and the rest, 20-30% from fat. going for more protein and fewer simple carbohydrates is an excellent idea.Describe "natural". Humans have been hunter/gatherers for most of our history. All those grains we've been growing are pretty new compared to our history.
atkins is 60% protein and 10-15% carbohydrates. it's absurd. your body can't do that for very long. people should eat a lot of whole grains and vegetables.For some. Some people can handle a lot more carbs than others. Different people do better or worse eating different things. I suspect in the not-to-distant future we'll be talking about genetics and what certain people can and can't eat.
here is a good diet for damned near everyone: as many vegetables in as great a variety as you can stand. little to no refined sugar, bleached flour, and overly processed (ie, salty, flour-and-sugar based, high saturated fat) foods. low salt. only as many calories as you need. moderate fat with small amounts of "bad" meat.Sounds great, that's how I try to do it (without much success the past couple of weeks). I rarely eat bread since my body doesn't handle it too well.
but everyone prefers to lose weight eating kfc rather than carrot sticks. whatever. it's not healthy. if enough people do it, it must be okay :rolleyes: and it's sure as heck better than eating right and *gasp* exercising. What is eating right? Low fats and lot of bread? Meat and nuts? I don't think there's a good answer to this question which fits everyone.
Airencracken
11-04-2003, 12:41 PM
Churchs is good. So is Donahues and pioneer. mmmmmmm. Pomona has donahues and i think there is a pioneer somewhere in L.A.
oblongmelon
11-04-2003, 01:24 PM
mY CHRISTAMS WISH..that they sell buckets of skin-original recipe.
welfareloser
11-04-2003, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by topane
Maybe you will, but there's no evidence of that yet.
no HUMAN studies yet. rats are metabolically identical to humans. do any nutritional study on rats, the same things happen to humans. rats liquefy on the damned atkins diet. why anyone is pretending humans should try it is beyond me.
Originally posted by topane
Describe "natural". Humans have been hunter/gatherers for most of our history. All those grains we've been growing are pretty new compared to our history..
natural: what we did 1,000 to 50,000 years ago. those "new" grains replace roots/tubers etc which have a similar nutrient profile.
Originally posted by topane
Some people can handle a lot more carbs than others. Different people do better or worse eating different things. I suspect in the not-to-distant future we'll be talking about genetics and what certain people can and can't eat.
Sounds great, that's how I try to do it (without much success the past couple of weeks). I rarely eat bread since my body doesn't handle it too well...
most people don't handle bread too well. it's made from flour. flour ain't great for you. it removes the fiber and nutrients, leaving carbohydrates only slightly more complex than sugar.
Originally posted by topane
What is eating right? Low fats and lot of bread? Meat and nuts? I don't think there's a good answer to this question which fits everyone.
there IS a general answer that is good for everyone who doesn't have some exotic disease like phenylketonuria or type one diabetes. "low" fat is good, if "low" = "lower than mcdonalds value meals." 20-30% fat is about right. bread is not good. some nuts are good. some meat is good.
diabetics need very regulated amounts of carbs, fats, cholesterol, salt, etc, but most of em wouldn't be diabetic if they had eaten well and exercised and been a reasonable weight for the last twenty years.
a diet of "as little fat as i can manage" as was all the rage 10 years ago, is bad. a diet of "as little carbohydrate as i can manage" is similarly stupid. variety, balance, moderation... the tao of food, dammit.
i should write a book and make millions.
Originally posted by welfareloser
i should write a book and make millions.
I wonder how many self-made authors pondered that before making money on their books...
DaFunkyUnit
11-04-2003, 03:33 PM
Roscoe's Chicken n Waffles
hehe... awwww yea! :P
blueindian
11-04-2003, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by welfareloser
i should write a book and make millions.
but see, no one would read it. you talking the same BS that they teach in nutrition classes. there's no gimmick! a key component of your plan is exercise, which most people who buy diet books are not willing to do.
welfareloser
11-04-2003, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by blueindian
but see, no one would read it. you talking the same BS that they teach in nutrition classes. there's no gimmick! a key component of your plan is exercise, which most people who buy diet books are not willing to do.
the gimmick could be a dr phil / dr laura bent... i'll just insult everyone as rudely as i can, which lends credibility, apparently.
i'll cut to the chase and call myself dr bitch. or dr eff you.
dr f. u. bitch!
InfiniteNothing
11-04-2003, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by Airencracken
Guy eating a bucket of KFC. "It's okay I had subway!"
:heh:
Hey, KFC is good. I don't give a rat's a** how much fat/carbs/etc is in there, besides I eat about 4000-5000 calories a day. Yes, and I weigh 132lbs. :D
Hey just because you don't gain weight doesn't mean that saturated fat isn't accumulating in your arteries. Organ damage isn't out of the realm of possibility either. But don't let me
Welfare: Your gimic is primitivism. I can think of a handfull of people that would love it.
Originally posted by DaFunkyUnit
Roscoe's Chicken n Waffles
hehe... awwww yea! :P
:heh: :stupid: hell ya!
eSDee
11-04-2003, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by welfareloser
dr f. u. bitch!
:heh: Classic. I'd watch it!
Originally posted by Airencracken
Guy eating a bucket of KFC. "It's okay I had subway!"
:heh:
Hey, KFC is good. I don't give a rat's a** how much fat/carbs/etc is in there, besides I eat about 4000-5000 calories a day. Yes, and I weigh 132lbs. :D
Its not how much you weigh but what your arteries look like.
welfareloser
11-05-2003, 07:08 AM
yeah, prm's pathology class has been handed human arteries full of plaques, damaged and scarred by accumulations of gunk... nice show n tell. he gets nauseous at the thought of mcdonalds now. similar to me and cigars after my dental path course... 8 am slideshows of diseased mouths on a 6-foot screen killed the fun of stogies for good...
Merlin
11-05-2003, 07:11 AM
Yeah well don't ruin them for me. I like a good cigar about once every six months or so.
welfareloser
11-05-2003, 08:11 AM
Originally posted by Merlin
Yeah well don't ruin them for me. I like a good cigar about once every six months or so.
far be it from me... you should be able to get away with inhaling pure death on a semi-annual basis. :bandit:
Originally posted by InfiniteNothing
Welfare: Your gimic is primitivism. I can think of a handfull of people that would love it.
am i being insulted here? can't tell, that's an awful big word... must be an insult. i'll beat your ass just in case it is. :-P
Airencracken
11-05-2003, 03:49 PM
I don't eat a lot of fat really, so I think my arteries should be fine, most of my diet consists of complex carbs and veggies, little sat fat and meat and sugar and all that. KFC is like once every 6 months or so. Popcorn chicken baby! Woot!
By the way for all of those out there looking for a diet.
Calories go into your body, you need a certain amount to live every day. Do not eat over that limit, in fact for a while live off your internal stores. Simple as that. (unless it's weight that isn't from overeating)
coleslaw
11-20-2003, 02:10 PM
KFC has pulled (http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAL0OH38ND.html) the ad.
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