Her Dying Wish: to Oust Bush

[sbp]

http://www.sunspot.net/news/nationworld/bal-te.request08nov08,0,6360786.story

Gertrude M. Jones didn't want flowers or cards when she died. She wanted to get rid of President George W. Bush.

The 81-year-old woman's obituary asked that memorial donations be given "to any organization that seeks the removal of President Bush from office." And people around the country are following her wishes.

In an online memorial book to Jones, dozens of people posted messages of support. Many wrote that they would contribute to the Democratic National Committee or one of the presidential contenders.

The campaign of fellow candidate Wesley Clark also has received at least 15 donations in Jones' name in Montana alone, said Angela Monaghan, Clark's campaign coordinator in Ramsay, Mont.

"It's been real effective. If that's what it takes to get people to donate, then that's great," Monaghan said.

Jones, of Mandeville, La., died Aug. 25, and her brief obituary appeared in The Times-Picayune in New Orleans on Oct. 2.

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If only every Democrat out there could follow this womans example.

C'mon do it for the good of the country! Ask not what your country can do for you, ask how quickly you can get into a grave. http://sbp777.homestead.com/files/wink2.gif

[johnnymk]

Originally posted by sbp


If only every Democrat out there could follow this womans example.



Yeh, but then they would have to be called "Die-more-crats" :hmm:

[sbp]

Knowing the Dems long history of crooked election behavior, Gertrude M. Jones will be voting in 2004. http://home.earthlink.net/~sbp777/smilies/disgusted.gif

[blueindian]

Originally posted by sbp
Knowing the Dems long history of crooked election behavior, Gertrude M. Jones will be voting in 2004. http://home.earthlink.net/~sbp777/smilies/disgusted.gif

yeah cause it's only the dems who lie, cheat, and steal right sbp? the GOP is consistantly on the up and up.:rolleyes:

[oblongmelon]

Originally posted by sbp
Knowing the Dems long history of crooked election behavior, Gertrude M. Jones will be voting in 2004. http://home.earthlink.net/~sbp777/smilies/disgusted.gif
LOL (and possibly 2008,2012...and probably more than once each time at that.)

[nickel]

what a waste of a last wish :disa:
or m'be it is her last ditch effort to get some badly needed attention

[nickel]

:heh:
sheesh Yossa you caught me off guard with that response

[blueindian]

Originally posted by nickelback
what a waste of a last wish :disa:
or m'be it is her last ditch effort to get some badly needed attention

why is that a waste of a last wish?

i actually find it rather inspiring that someone values political freedoms (including the right to be outspoken in one's disagreement, right to vote, right to fair elections, etc) to incorporate those values into a last wish. most americans take that sort of thing for granted. . . hell only about half of us vote.

would you feel any differently if the current president was one that you did not like rather than one you support?

[oblongmelon]

Originally posted by Yossarian
maybe she just needed a shave.

Yoss you having thoughts about shaving 81 year old dames again? :hmm:
you know..there is some medication that can help you here..

[nickel]

Originally posted by blueindian


why is that a waste of a last wish?

i actually find it rather inspiring that someone values political freedoms (including the right to be outspoken in one's disagreement, right to vote, right to fair elections, etc) to incorporate those values into a last wish. most americans take that sort of thing for granted. . . hell only about half of us vote.

would you feel any differently if the current president was one that you did not like rather than one you support?
no i would not feel any differently if the current president was one i didn't support.

stupid last wish, stupid attention getter.

[blueindian]

Originally posted by nickelback

no i would not feel any differently if the current president was one i didn't support.

stupid last wish, stupid attention getter.


what if her last wish was for people to give money to, say, the Make a Wish Foundation.

or, for something more divisive, how about to give money to either a Pro Abortion or Anti Abortion group?

[nickel]

i think that isn't a wish. it is something she could do.
creating a legacy is a more appropriate thing than dissing the president of the greatest democracy in the world.

[blueindian]

Originally posted by nickelback
i think that isn't a wish. it is something she could do.
creating a legacy is a more appropriate thing than dissing the president of the greatest democracy in the world.

i'm not quite sure i understand. are you saying it's ok if she wanted to personally give money to groups that oppose the re-election of GWB, but it's not ok for her to encourage others to do it?

and are you also saying that encouraging others to oppose GWB's re-election is disrespectful?

[nickel]

all i am saying is that is a stupid last wish :D

[Cantacuzene]

Originally posted by nickelback
stupid attention getter.

And I'm often accused of calling the kettle black. :P

[nickel]

Originally posted by Cantacuzene


And I'm often accused of calling the kettle black. :P
i love you too Canta
*kisses Canta REAL BIG on the lips*

[eSDee]

Originally posted by sbp
Knowing the Dems long history of crooked election behavior, Gertrude M. Jones will be voting in 2004. http://home.earthlink.net/~sbp777/smilies/disgusted.gif

That's pretty funny sbp :heh: Especially considering that in the last Presidential Election, Florida Republicans prevented thousands of registered voters(mostly minorities) from voting by falsely accusing them of being felons. Being as Dubya only won by less than 600 votes there, that is about as corrupt as you can get since it decided the election.

More info:

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=55&row=1

[xsiled2]

thats like having a link from foxnews or worldnetdaily

comeon man...

[oblongmelon]

Originally posted by Yossarian


same stuff that keeps you lookin 21? :naughty:


no nO NO Yoss..I don't look at 21 year olds..ok if they are there and someone asks what my opinion is..I'll give it..but other than that I only have eyes for the older gents..like MEL :love: , Sean Connery, and Anthony Hopkins..Oh, and Patrick Stewart..now THOSE are some foxy guys!

[blueindian]

Originally posted by xsiled2
thats like having a link from foxnews or worldnetdaily

comeon man...

is the AP any better for you?

http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/04.28A.Election.Fraud.htm
Quietly Florida Admits 2000 Election Fraud
By The Associated Press
April 26, 2002 | Filed at 10:17 p.m. ET

. . .Many voters said their votes didn't count or they were turned away from polls due to mistakes on voter lists, busy telephone lines at election headquarters, punch-card voting machine foul-ups and other problems.

Statewide, the largest numbers of voting problems were found in precincts with high proportions of black and elderly voters

Under the settlement, both sides will work to restore voters who were wrongly removed from voters lists in the 2000 election. Many law-abiding voters across the state said their names were dropped because they were mistakenly pegged as ex-cons, who generally aren't allowed to vote in Florida. . .

[sbp]

Originally posted by eSDeeLoco


That's pretty funny sbp :heh: Especially considering that in the last Presidential Election, Florida Republicans prevented thousands of registered voters(mostly minorities) from voting by falsely accusing them of being felons. Being as Dubya only won by less than 600 votes there, that is about as corrupt as you can get since it decided the election.

More info:

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=55&row=1 Nice try eSDeeLoco...bzzt! :heh:

In 2000 the Dems tried to steal yet another election.

If Gore had won his own home state, Florida wouldn't have mattered.

Yeah it was a mess in Florida-newsmedia calling the election for Gore early, thereby costing GWB votes in Florida's panhandle. Then there's the matter of the Dems giving a big FU to military people. http://home.earthlink.net/~sbp777/smilies/headshaker.gif

before anyone brings it up: as for popular vote deciding the president, be sure to change the Constitution.

And just today Gomer Gore popped (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031110/ap_on_re_us/gore_civil_liberties_8) up again. Go away loser!

[cheapchinese]

i wouldn't okay popular vote as a replacement for electoral college

then the candidates would only visit the big states

[Ladogaboy]

Without reading the thread or any of the posts, I say we try and make this wish come true!!! :D

[bachviet]

Originally posted by cheapchinese
i wouldn't okay popular vote as a replacement for electoral college

then the candidates would only visit the big states
:stupid:

[Ladogaboy]

Originally posted by cheapchinese
i wouldn't okay popular vote as a replacement for electoral college

then the candidates would only visit the big states

:eek:

Ummm.... do you see that you've completely contradicted yourself? With the electoral college, a candidate only needs to win 7... 7 states, and they will have locked the election. If anything, with an electoral college, candidates will only visit the big states.

You might want to look into that.

[blueindian]

Originally posted by sbp

And just today Gomer Gore popped (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031110/ap_on_re_us/gore_civil_liberties_8) up again. Go away loser!

sbp if your up to it i'd like to hear any counter arguements to what gore had to say in that speech. personally, i say he's right on target.

and did you even bother to read the AP link above? something smelled fishy in flordia, and it surely was not the dems.

[attgig]

Originally posted by blueindian


yeah cause it's only the dems who lie, cheat, and steal right sbp? the GOP is consistantly on the up and up.:rolleyes:

yeah...good response...

"BUT THE OTHER KIDS ARE BEING BAD....SO WHY CAN'T I???"

:disa:

[nickel]

Originally posted by blueindian


sbp if your up to it i'd like to hear any counter arguements to what gore had to say in that speech. personally, i say he's right on target.
http://www.imgmag.org/images/swt2th6/algore.jpg

[attgig]

Originally posted by blueindian
and did you even bother to read the AP link above? something smelled fishy in flordia, and it surely was not the dems.

and so...you accuse the winning party of doing it? eh?

so...are you saying that elections are governed by the republicans?




I love how that first article says random crap like:

A close examination suggests thousands of voters may have lost their right to vote based on a flaw-ridden list that included purported "felons" provided by a private firm with tight Republican ties.
without any real evidence that the firm has any republican ties at all.

or like:

In the process, however, the list invariably targets a minority population in Florida, where 31 percent of all black men cannot vote because of a ban on felons.
is that saying that the list is falsely accusing 31% of black men from voting? or are they saying that it's not fair that felon's can't vote, especially when they're black.

I'm sorry...but that article is soooo skewed.



as for the AP article, where does it say that the republicans masterminded this for bush to win?
or for that matter where in the article does it say that election fraud was commited (as the title suggests).

the evidence given tells of this list that wrongly disallowed elligible voters because of a faulty list. it gives no evidence that someone/thing was behind this to specifically remove democratic voters from the polls.



do you really believe everything that the media reports to us? or do you just choose to believe crap that supports your argument.

[raimin]

Gore loves bashing the patriot act, as a power grab by Bush's Administration and the republicans. But looking back at the senate's vote on HR 3162, the us patriot act, the vote was 98-1.:shrug:

[eSDee]

Katherine Harris ordered the felon report from a private data acquisition company. I have a better source to quote from when I get home. I'll wait until then so I don't butcher it.

[Cantacuzene]

On a related note Katherine Harris will be running for Senate for the retiring Bob Graham in Florida next fall. Her rise from obscure state apointee to United States Senator will have been a remarkably fast 4 years. I don;t suppose anyone else sees a quid pro quo thing happening there.

[blueindian]

Originally posted by attgig


yeah...good response...

"BUT THE OTHER KIDS ARE BEING BAD....SO WHY CAN'T I???"

:disa:

my point was not that 2 wrongs make a right so much as i was just reminding sbp that the party which he devoutly supports is everybit as guilty of what he is accusing the dems. i guess what i was saying is, "if you live in a glass house. . ."

[Nija]

Originally posted by raimin
But looking back at the senate's vote on HR 3162, the us patriot act, the vote was 98-1.:shrug:

the 1 vote was from california, and do you know how much hell they got?

and now look at where we are.. the patriot act, ranks up there with the DMCA in my book.

The patriot act is absolutely disgusting with little to no real value. period.

[attgig]

Originally posted by blueindian
i guess what i was saying is, "if you live in a glass house. . ."

ditto.

[johnnymk]

Originally posted by Nija


the 1 vote was from california, and do you know how much hell they got?

and now look at where we are.. the patriot act, ranks up there with the DMCA in my book.

The patriot act is absolutely disgusting with little to no real value. period.

I totally agree. While they're at it, let's also get rid of the FBI, the CIA and let's totally withdraw from the UN. All three are worthless organizations. However, I could also list about a dozen others.

[Ladogaboy]

Originally posted by johnnymk


I totally agree. While they're at it, let's also get rid of the FBI, the CIA and let's totally withdraw from the UN. All three are worthless organizations. However, I could also list about a dozen others.

Nah, man. The FBI has its uses. :hihi:

:P

[jase71]

Originally posted by Nija


the 1 vote was from california, and do you know how much hell they got?

Couldn't have been too much. That one vote was Russ Feingold, the Senator from Wisconsin. ;)

[sbp]

Originally posted by Cantacuzene
On a related note Katherine Harris will be running for Senate for the retiring Bob Graham in Florida next fall. Her rise from obscure state apointee to United States Senator will have been a remarkably fast 4 years. I don;t suppose anyone else sees a quid pro quo thing happening there. On a related note, Hillary Clinton's rise from wife of a president {that came from a 2nd rate southern state} to becoming United States Senator of one of the biggest states {and that in the North!} was remarkably fast.

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Ralph Nader Blasts Democrats As 'Chronic Whiners' (http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20031109_1437.html) http://home.earthlink.net/~sbp777/smilies/aningrin.gif


Former Green Party presidential candidate Ralph Nader called Democrats "chronic whiners" for continuing to accuse him of spoiling the 2000 presidential election for Al Gore.

[topane]

Originally posted by sbp
On a related note, Hillary Clinton's rise from wife of a president {that came from a 2nd rate southern state} What exactly is a "first-rate" southern state ;)?

[johnnymk]

Originally posted by topane
What exactly is a "first-rate" southern state ;)?

It's one where everyone is related to each other and their first names start with "Billy Bob".

[Cantacuzene]

Originally posted by sbp
On a related note, Hillary Clinton's rise from wife of a president {that came from a 2nd rate southern state} to becoming United States Senator of one of the biggest states {and that in the North!} was remarkably fast.

I'm sensing a pattern here. SBP you never try to actually defend a republican, you simply try to tear down a democrat as your defense when republicans do something wrong. As if someone how mention Hillary's fast rise to prominence some how makes Katherine HArris' not seem fishy.