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ski

12-09-2003, 03:15 PM

This was in response to the 7 reasons I thought were best from why you shouldn't accept a diamond from anyone (http://www.gotapex.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=69299).

Megflower: So let me get this straight - you're never going to give a girl a diamond
Megflower: Why doesn't that surprise me anyway
Megflower: "Will you marry me?" "Just a gold band?" "Diamonds are WAY overpriced." "Oh, okay, then." I just hope she exists, Kevin

"Just a gold band?" you better believe I won't ask a girl to marry me if she'd have the nerve to say that to me. Is this marriage about love or jewelry anyway?

Check the convo (http://filebox.vt.edu/users/kedooley/etzdiamonds.htm)

I dunno... am I cheap? Or is is she a gold digger? :confused:

JackHammer

12-09-2003, 04:40 PM

You should say that a cubic zirconia is white and it ain't too easy to scratch either. And on top of that you can't really dig that up in your backyard.

I think all girls are like that. Gold digger or not they all need a diamond. I'd get one for my wife-to-be because it's something she wants no matter how stupid I think getting one is. It'll make her happy so eh. What can you do?

Emqtee

12-09-2003, 04:44 PM

I think that she is just brainwashed by our society into thinking that you must have a diamond ring to be engaged. Girls grow up with this image of how everything should be. Heck most of my friends already had ideas of what their weddings would be like when they were 7 or 8 years old.

Personally it wouldn't matter what type of ring was given to me. The more important part is the thought behind it and that it is from the right person. (just as long as it is platinum ;))

ray

12-09-2003, 04:48 PM

Tell her that if she gets one, you should be getting a nice rock too.

JackHammer

12-09-2003, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by Emqtee
I think that she is just brainwashed by our society into thinking that you must have a diamond ring to be engaged. Girls grow up with this image of how everything should be. Heck most of my friends already had ideas of what their weddings would be like when they were 7 or 8 years old.

Personally it wouldn't matter what type of ring was given to me. The more important part is the thought behind it and that it is from the right person. (just as long as it is platinum ;))

Platinum is a great conductor of electricity.:)

sbp

12-09-2003, 06:21 PM

So is a gold band chopped liver? http://home.earthlink.net/~sbp777/smilies/xmasrolleyes.gif

She does appear to be unduly preoccupied with "sparkly things". What's stopping her from buying a diamond? And why is she angry about your views? Guess its fine if another is footing the bill for overpriced rocks that aren't rare. But as the other thread pointed out-peeps don't have to be bent over when buying one {goes for other things in life also!}.

I've seen people with their beady eyes light up when spotting jewelry. Just cause you can stare at one, doesn't mean you have to own it. Personally I'm more interested in diamonds, gold and whatnot with their uses in scientific applications.

What would you rather have-a nice house or a frigging diamond? In that line of thought...when my younger sister got engaged a few years ago her fiancé bought her a new Crown Victoria since her old car was on its last wheels. With a third baby on the way, the car is going to be traded in for a van.

theorangeone

12-09-2003, 06:38 PM

It depends on the person. I'm in a wedding next summer, and the brides engagement ring doesn't have diamonds in it.

I've had my wedding band picked out since I was 16. I don't have a man, but I have the ring. It doesn't have diamonds on it. I have an idea of what kind of engagement ring I would like. While it does have some diamonds, its very understated.

You really have to take it on a case by case basis. I'm not into jewelry.

look_ma

12-09-2003, 06:39 PM

so tempted to message Megflower7 and tell her my mind, but wont so she wont hate you kevin. How old is she Kevin, I saw her prom pics, so is she 19? If so the brainwash theory would make sense.

Ladogaboy

12-09-2003, 06:44 PM

Yes. :hehehmm:

Anyway, I wouldn't think she is a gold digger... just high maintenance.

Memo

12-09-2003, 07:14 PM

Not a gold digger. Girls have been wanting a ring since they were a kid man. Just give them one.

I, however, am set :) I found a nice sized diamond ring in the ground when I was playing in the dirt as a kid. I've kept it all these years and my grandma had it checked out to make sure it was freal. So now I have a ring AND a story! :D

coleslaw

12-09-2003, 07:38 PM

What really brainwashes girls are those stupid shows on TLC and the like that show the "perfect proposals" with the enormous rocks and elegant settings, etc. It spoils the engagement process for us guys because we are then expected to live up to those expectations, but alas, we do not have a producer funding the proposal, so what can we do?? :shrug:

ski

12-10-2003, 12:54 AM

Originally posted by look_ma
so tempted to message Megflower7 and tell her my mind, but wont so she wont hate you kevin. How old is she Kevin, I saw her prom pics, so is she 19? If so the brainwash theory would make sense.

She's actually 18... a bit younger for her year in school (late birthday).

But y'all are right -- gold digger was a bad term, high maintenance is apt :)

I just wanted to see yinz guys' opinions on reactions to that diamond thread

molecularfire

12-10-2003, 07:42 AM

I have no idea whether she's a golddigger or not, but I don't think you can make any assumptions based on that conversation. I agree with those who said that girls have been brainwashed into thinking that the ring, the ceremony, all that crap is vitally important... that somehow if you don't start off with all that stuff right, you can just kiss the idea of the next 60+ years away. Unfortunately, they don't realize that the ring, the ceremony and all that crap is easy... it's the next 60+ years that will kill a relationship. However, it is very possible that she truly believes that and that she feels slighted by someone not getting her the diamond ring. It's not always the ring that matters as the symbolism behind it (the fact that you are willing to waste an obscene amount of money that you don't have to give them a trinket that serves no purpose for no other reason than that you know it would make them happy). That was the reason why I posted in the DeBeer's is bad thread that I still plan to get my GF whatever ring she wants diamond or not. Because when it comes down to it, her happiness is more important to me than the lives of a bunch of kids in africa.

Jihforce

12-10-2003, 10:25 AM

A wedding reception, ceremony or propasal is what you make of it. And its only good if you love it. Expensive or cheap, its the most important day or your life and if you want to celebrate it in a quiet or extravagant fashion, it. Nothing wrong with that. As far as the ring goes, whether its a diamond, ruby or cz, if it makes you happy and your fiance happy, its worth it.
I can easily say that those who don't thing a diamond is a good ring to propose with are just being cheapasses instead of saying the girl is a gold digger. Works both ways.

nickel

12-10-2003, 10:46 AM

honestly, if i am crazy in love with a guy i would wear a cigar band proudly if he gave it to me. :)

it's not about keeping up with the Joneses.

Jihforce

12-10-2003, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by nickelback
honestly, if i am crazy in love with a guy i would wear a cigar band proudly if he gave it to me. :)

it's not about keeping up with the Joneses.

That's a nice of you. :) but if a guy was truly in love with you, he wouldn't give you a cigar band, specially if he could afford to give you something nice.

My wife never asked me what type of ring to get her. I just went out, pick up a nice ring that i could afford (without having to finance) and she loves it. Personally, i think that's how it should be.

attgig

12-10-2003, 11:39 AM

so can we im her?

Jihforce

12-10-2003, 11:47 AM

I doubt you'd want to. haha. You're supposed to be poor and taking donations, remember?

nickel

12-10-2003, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by Jihforce

That's a nice of you. :) but if a guy was truly in love with you, he wouldn't give you a cigar band, specially if he could afford to give you something nice.

My wife never asked me what type of ring to get her. I just went out, pick up a nice ring that i could afford (without having to finance) and she loves it. Personally, i think that's how it should be.
that wasn't the point i was trying to make. what i was trying to say is love shouldn't have a monetary value placed on it.

Cantacuzene

12-10-2003, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by UT Memo
Not a gold digger. Girls have been wanting a ring since they were a kid man. Just give them one.

I, however, am set :) I found a nice sized diamond ring in the ground when I was playing in the dirt as a kid. I've kept it all these years and my grandma had it checked out to make sure it was freal. So now I have a ring AND a story! :D

Thats lucky, but I surely wouldnt tell your fiance about it. There is no problem allowing her to think you slaved for 3 months to pay for it.

nickel

12-10-2003, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by Cantacuzene

Thats lucky, but I surely wouldnt tell your fiance about it. There is no problem allowing her to think you slaved for 3 months to pay for it.
yeh, there is a problem with that, it's called being dishonest.

i like that story UTMemo be sure and tell her. :)

coleslaw

12-10-2003, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by UT Memo
I found a nice sized diamond ring in the ground when I was playing in the dirt as a kid. I've kept it all these years and my grandma had it checked out to make sure it was freal.

You get that thing appraised, man! Wouldn't you like to know how much it is worth?

whitak24

12-10-2003, 01:47 PM

Leebo

12-10-2003, 03:46 PM

Yo screw all that, my fiancee is getting no ring. Gotta spend 8-15k on something more practical... like investing towards a car or something.

Jihforce

12-10-2003, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by Leebo
Yo screw all that, my fiancee is getting no ring. Gotta spend 8-15k on something more practical... like investing towards a car or something.
Investment and Car on the same sentence? ;)

attgig

12-10-2003, 04:07 PM

haha Jih, my thoughts exactly. a diamond is more of a worthwhile investment than a car :P (unless you're getting an M :drool: )

Peachhead

12-10-2003, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by nickelback

yeh, there is a problem with that, it's called being dishonest.

i like that story UTMemo be sure and tell her. :)

I agree on both counts. :) PLUS you're right, love should not have a monetary value. If the guy can only afford to give you a cigar band, I think it's sweet you'd wear it. Shows how much you care for him too. :)

thats a cool story, UT. :thumbup:

Leebo

12-10-2003, 11:56 PM

Originally posted by Jihforce

Investment and Car on the same sentence? ;)

investment towards car... so eventually wasting money on something that will get me from point A to point B

cheapchinese

12-11-2003, 02:39 AM

damn..... debeer commercial....

has nothing to do with you both.. its tv's fault

but do whats in your means... don't feel pressured

slaus

12-11-2003, 04:01 AM

I dont even want to think about how much its going to cost me when I have to buy my girl a ring. It really sucks when your gf has a sister who's married already. Theres room for comparision.

Jihforce

12-11-2003, 09:42 AM

Originally posted by slaus
I dont even want to think about how much its going to cost me when I have to buy my girl a ring. It really sucks when your gf has a sister who's married already. Theres room for comparision.

It only sucks if you are trying to compete. Getting a girl a ring is not competion to see who's got the larger rock. That would be missing the point. Two or my sisters have 10k+ rocks from their husbands, I'm not about to do that. Not to say my wife isn't worth it, because she is, but that's way out of my budget...practicing common sense here.

I know love has no monetary value. But who says that a ring equals how much you love someone? If you're willing to commit yourself to her for the rest of your life but can only buy her a $500 ring, that's still love. In some cases, it means more than the guy that spends 4 mil on a ring and cheats on his wife by sleeping with a 19 year old from Colorado. :disa:

coleslaw

12-11-2003, 09:49 AM

DeBeers tries to get you think think that you should spend 3 months' salary on a diamond (How else could 3 months salary last forever?). However, I've read that it is suggested that you spend 1 month's gross salary on the rock. The 1 month figure also seems to be the mean value spent on a ring.

ray

12-11-2003, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by coleslaw
DeBeers tries to get you think think that you should spend 3 months' salary on a diamond (How else could 3 months salary last forever?). However, I've read that it is suggested that you spend 1 month's gross salary on the rock. The 1 month figure also seems to be the mean value spent on a ring.

Interesting study. Do you by any chance have a link to an article that shows the average money spent on an engagement ring?

coleslaw

12-11-2003, 10:36 AM

The diamond industry actually says 2 months, not 3. I guess I was being over-critical.

And no, I don't have a link to any articles right now. I've read far too many to be able to find that one again.

mcs328

12-11-2003, 11:05 AM

holy crap...when did they raise it to 3 months salary? Hmmm...must get a job paying minimum wage for 3 months.

Let's see...how about I buy a nice platinum ring with a pearl size snow globe mounted on it with millions of individual specks of diamonds!!! Oh my goodness...how cool would that be to have a snow globe on top of an engagement ring!?!

Yay? Nay? Crazay?

coleslaw

12-11-2003, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by mcs328
holy crap...when did they raise it to 3 months salary?

They didn't. I was just being forgetful. It's 2 months. ;)

donnar

12-13-2003, 12:24 PM

My husband and I got married at the JOP no rings, I don't mind one bit, he could afford to buy me a ring but really what is the point, I'm not going to love him anymore or anyless.

Donna

djradam

12-13-2003, 02:34 PM

yeah, she's a diamond digger :) she probably is if that's the only thing she'll accept.

a guy i work with bought his girl of 3 years like a $700 pair of glasses, and i guess they broke up a little after that. well, this other girl started going out with him and a few months later for valentines day she mentioned that she heard he got that other girl expensive glasses and she wanted some. i guess he got her flowers and some other nice stuff, but they stopped talking after that cause she's a gold digger :)

i agree though, no matter what it is, it should be no problem if you're both in love. my girlfriend in high school tied a taco bell spork wrapper around my wrist and i wore if for almost 4 weeks not taking it off. gross, maybe, but it meant something :) i don't spend much money (or don't have much money either) on my current girlfriend, so i know she's not digging me for my bank ;)