Microsoft Broken up

[Booyamos]

Uncase you don't know, or have been living in a cave, the judge ruled on microsoft today. They are to be broken up into 2 companies. http://www.msnbc.com/news/417461.asp
So ya just wanted to know what people thought about this, I personally think that they are going to win in appeals court eventually and that nothing is really ever going to happen. But hey you never know, hey maybe now is a good time to buy stocks http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/wink.gif

[Sjarred]

DOJ sucks.

[colossus]

This has been the most blatant use of lobbying power I've ever seen. The only reason they went after MS was because Sun, AOL/Netscape pushed for it. I know of 100s of companies that are totally niche companies with monopolies who try to prevent loss of market share, nobody says anything about them.

I especially like how all the document organization for this trial was done on Microsoft Office and BackOffice instead of like Lotus or something. DOJ can kiss my ass!

I hope MS does move to Canada. US would lose tax revenue in the 10s of billions just off of direct sales and income tax of employees!

Well, they split the big shark into two piranas (sp?) http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/smile.gif Between my dad and myself we own about 1,600 shares of MS, so I love the company and its products (despite their MANY flaws). Hopefully people will realize that MS will continue to grow at least 20% for the next 5 years and it's PEG will fall back in line.

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[Booyamos]

I agree with you colossus, though I will say that Microsoft is a little harsh with some of their business practices but hey you do what you have to do to survive, let the weak perish. It will be interesting to see how this turns out, both my parents work at Microsoft but I think either way it will still be ok. They are still going to dominate the market no matter what they do, and splitting Windows up into it's own company doesn't seem like it will do much. Oh well I guess I will just buy more stock and watch it grow, wether it be in 2 companies or 1 I don't really care. But damn the DOJ is so dumb, man that is just what pisses me off. The only thing I see keeping MSFT from canada is their insane taxes, but they would probably get lots of tax breaks to go there.

[hapoo]

they should name the second one macrosoft. no one will know the difference http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/smile.gif

[NiceMann]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hapoo:
they should name the second one macrosoft. no one will know the difference http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Humm "Mac"rosoft. LOL why not he stole some of his ideas from Apple, why now go for it. That would be a good name for them though. http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/wink.gif

[colossus]

This is why I'm so pissed. They won't let the two companies do business with each other. That's like telling BP AMCO or Mobil that they can't have gas stations. It's like telling Krogger Food chains (owners of brands like Ralphs0 that they can sell canned food and boxed items, but they can't have a bakery or deli in the store! That's, well, I won't say the full word as I know Apex has been concerned about cussing - it's BS!

Imagine a Word of Excel program that could launch faster or know that you want to work on a word document while your friend works on it at the same time separated by 3000 miles. If the 2 companies are not allowed to collaborate then this will never happed.

This would be all fine and well if companies like Lotus or Oracle developed usable software. I have yet to see anything that beats Word. Have you ever tried using WordPerfect - it's a joke. Ever try using DBase over Access - it's crazy!

There is a reason Microsoft is a monopoly. They make a good product. If Wordperfect, for example, was superior, it would have dominated in the business world where efficiency and simplicity rule. Instead Word defined itself as the definitive by mass usage.

And saying $89 is too much for an OS? Come on! Norton Utilities, for example, costs like $30-40. And all it does it maintain your system. It's your OS damnit - it should cost you some.

I'm not that concerned with the stock price. I've made so much money off of MS that whatever happens isn't really hurting me. It would be sad if you can't hook up your X-box to your PC because of this ruling. Time for a letter to Mrs. Reno.

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[Sjarred]

I support MicroSoft, but I just thought this was pretty funny. http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
http://www.mzachary.com/images/pics/funny/microsoftdomination.jpg

[revil]

personally, i'm sticking to dos...

[oblivion77]

We don’t have to worry about Microsoft going anywhere since we all know that Americans aren’t smart enough to use a real OS “Linux.” We are the only country that is truly dependent on Microsoft. So as long as there are stupid Americans there will be Microsoft.

[revil]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by oblivion77:
So as long as there are stupid Americans there will be Microsoft. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
and as long as real stoopid americans exist, we will have macs...
btw, i swear their systems would sell a lot better if they simply called the mac os 'Mac'. so when people buy version 10, they'll be buying Mac-10.

[colossus]

Oblivion, I'm no CS major nor do I work in IT. Yet I have to strongly disagree with your statement. Imagine all those free deals all of us get on the web. Now imagine if all these sites were running Linux OS. Wouldn't that be great! Stuff would be cheaper cuz Linux is free and open code right?

Hmm, open code...well, why doesn't eBay or Reel.com just put up a big sign saying Hackers/Crackers/Cybercriminals please direct your attack here. Maybe you should read some analysis at Motley Fool to see why this whole Linux crap is overrated - from the company to the stock.

I doubt the US army will ever switch from it's NT/Solaris dependence. I'd like to see you call an Army officer a "stupid American" not smart enough to operate a real OS.

Perhaps there is a reason why MS insists on keeping it's source code closed?

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[oblivion77]

Sorry if I hurt anyone’s feelings out there. But you have to realize the Internet is run on Unix/Linux/BSD, anywhere there is heavy traffic there is one of those three. NT is for small companies you wont find that many Internet companies using NT for a server. NT just cant handle it! It all started with BSD back it the days when we had wooden keyboards. And what did the military use? Unix!!! I’m not thrash’n Microsoft, I like Microsoft, I use NT everyday and I even have my MCSE. Microsoft makes some good OS’s, But they just cant handle what Linux, Solaris, BSD, or Unix can.

[Jeffbx]

Oblivion, you are misinformed. I use NT exclusively at large organizations - currently, at a large Internet company. Yup - 9000 people on NT. I came from a large manufaturing company - 6000 people on NT. We currently host large volume web sites on NT4 that are rock steady. With Windows 2000, MS is now in league to compete in Solaris' space. I was at a MS conference last year where one of the product managers was giving a presentation on the scalability of Windows 2000. He told us about a test lab where they had 100 MILLION users in one Active Directory. I'd say that's pretty scalable.

Two or three years ago your arguments were valid, but not today.

[hapoo]

actually by macrosoft i meant "macro" soft, as in big as apposed to the small in Microsoft

[colossus]

OK, oblivion is right in that most companies use UNIX. It's just plain simple to route around and works commands much more efficiently. I wouldn't say NT couldn't handle large volume though. Ever look at TRW, Boeing, or Lockhead Martin. All these guys are using NT as the main platform. My dad's TRW site has close to 10,000 workstations and NT is preodiminant there.

Windows 2k is what MS needed to get into the Internet economy. They know they have a superior product. This is why people continue to hold MS stock even though analysts are bullsh*tting and saying that Win2K isn't a great solution.

Microsoft's ability to dominate arises from their need to integrate everything. They figure if they do everything then everything will be the best and most efficient. Sometimes this is true, sometime not. I've always hated their old Media Player, but this new version just kicks ass, especially when you have 20k+ plus MP3s on your machine http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/smile.gif

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