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Tommy Boomfiger
02-28-2004, 03:27 AM
DVD Forum approves rewritable next-gen DVD format
IDG News Service 2/26/04

Martyn Williams, IDG News Service, Tokyo Bureau
The group of companies behind the DVD format has approved a next-generation rewritable optical disc that is the same size as existing DVDs but can hold more than four times the amount of data.

The rewritable HD-DVD (High Definition and High Density-DVD) format was approved as the DVD Forum kicked off its general meeting in Tokyo this week, according to an official at one of the group's founding members. It specifies a 12-centimeter optical disc that can store up to 20G bytes of data on a single-sided disc compared to 4.7G bytes on existing DVDs. The format has been largely developed by Toshiba Corp. and NEC Corp. and a read-only version of HD-DVD, which can hold 15G bytes of data, was approved late last year.

Approval of the format marks a further step towards a format battle that is expected to see at least four incompatible technologies battling in the computer data storage market.

Currently, the format with the largest number of backers is Blu-ray Disc, for which 12 companies sit on the format committee. Until recently it was targeted at recording of high-definition video, although the addition of Hewlett-Packard Co. and Dell Inc. to the format steering committee earlier this year is expected to result in a widening of its target market to include the computing space.

Sony Corp., a prime supporter of Blu-ray Disc, has also developed Professional Disc. The format is available in two variants and is targeted at the specific markets of high-definition broadcast quality video and data archiving and storage. U.K.-based Plasmon PLC has also launched its own format called UDO (Ultra Density Optical), which is also targeted at the data archiving and storage market as a replacement for MO (Magneto Optical) discs.

While all four formats are physically incompatible, they all realize a large jump in data storage because of the same blue laser technology. Blue light has a shorter wavelength than the red light used in CD and DVD systems and so the laser beam makes a smaller spot on the disc surface. That means each bit of data takes up less space on the disc and so more data can be stored on a disc.

The current meeting, which ends on Friday, also marks the expansion of the DVD Forum's steering committee to 20 members with the addition of Microsoft Corp. and a unit of The Walt Disney Co.

The full member list is: Hitachi Ltd., IBM Corp., Industrial Technology Research Institute (Taiwan), Intel Corp., LG Electronics Inc., Matsu****a Electric Industrial Co. Ltd. (Panasonic), Microsoft Corp., Mitsubishi Electric Corp., NEC Corp., Pioneer Corp., Koninklijke Philips Electronics NV, Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd., Sanyo Electric Co. Ltd., Sharp Corp., Sony Corp., Thomson SA, Time Warner Inc., Toshiba Corp., Victor Co. of Japan Ltd. (JVC) and Walt Disney Pictures and Television.
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now we get to have a 4 way dvd format battle to look forward to. even though some of the formats a targeted to specific markets, not general, its still not great. another negative is that they are all physically incompatible, so no chance of multiformat drives if more than one emerges as a popular format. i hope that the winner, at least at the consumer level, is backwards compatible with current dvds

Tommy Boomfiger
02-28-2004, 12:10 PM
looks like MS is trying to get into the action. they want to put WM9 into every dvd by making that the standard. kind of different than how they usually try to keep thier code under lock and key.

http://news.com.com/2100-1041_3-5166786.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=news

johnnymk
02-28-2004, 04:24 PM
This may be a poor comparison, but if the media turns out to be expensive, it will be like the Zip100, Zip250 and Zip750 drives. Not everyone will need 20 GB of storage, considering that an average movie will fit onto existing DVD media.

InfiniteNothing
02-28-2004, 05:00 PM
I dunno, it's not unual to see 2 disks in a case (one the movie, the other special features or 4:3 aspect) and a 5 DVD special edition movie isn't unheard of. You could hold an entire season of a TV series on a disk.

Though what happened to SACDs ?

bachviet
02-28-2004, 05:58 PM
Wow that's pretty cool since it will make HD-DVD a reality.

Bires
02-28-2004, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by InfiniteNothing
I dunno, it's not unual to see 2 disks in a case (one the movie, the other special features or 4:3 aspect) and a 5 DVD special edition movie isn't unheard of. You could hold an entire season of a TV series on a disk.

Most of the two-disc sets can be put on a single, dual-layer disc; or a double-sided disc.

Marketting pros found that when ppl see a two-disc set, they feel they are getting more content for their money.

This is partly why the Total Recal Ultimate Edition failed to sell-it was one high-density disc, instead of a two-disc set which is common to collector/deluxe editions.

Tommy Boomfiger
02-29-2004, 02:23 AM
Originally posted by InfiniteNothing
Though what happened to SACDs ? SACD is kind of a niche market thing and has never really taken off for the general public. chances are that DVD-A will take off better than SACD, but even that is a hard sell. the only people who really buy that stuff are audiophiles because most people want a format that they can play anywhere, not just on thier component system.