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ray
03-22-2004, 10:10 AM
One thing that I liked: The DVDs would be compatible with standard standalone dvd players.

One thing I disliked: Price of blank media. Obviously this will go down, but I'll stick with my single layer burner and media for a few more months.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=528&e=1&u=/ap/20040322/ap_on_hi_te/dvd_burners

By PETER SVENSSON, AP Technology Writer

NEW YORK - If you just bought a DVD-burning drive for your computer and think that for once you're current with the latest and greatest, it's disappointment time. Manufacturers are soon launching drives that can store double the amount of data on a disc.

Sony Electronics says it will be shipping drives in about two months that accept blank DVDs with two data layers. Philips Electronics will start selling a similar drive in Europe in April, but is not saying when it will be available in the United States.

The write-once discs can store up to 8.5 gigabytes of data, or about 4 hours of DVD-quality movies, twice the capacity of regular blank DVDs. This means capacities for computer-burned DVDs are catching up with prerecorded movie DVDs, many of which are already dual-layer.

The new technology is sure to appeal to those who back up or copy movie DVDs, since they often have to reduce image quality or remove special features to fit a copied movie onto a single-layer disc. With a dual-layer drive, an exact copy on a single disc should be possible.

(The software used to copy encrypted movie DVDs is illegal in the United States, according to recent court rulings.)

The two layers of the new discs are accessed from the same side — there is no need to flip the disc over to record to the second layer. Instead, a laser beam shines through the first layer to record on the second.

Sony will sell an internal drive for $230 and an external one for $330. They will be marketed only for Windows PCs, but the external one should work on Macintosh (news - web sites) computers with the proper third-party software.

Philips will sell two internal drives with somewhat different features, both for PCs. U.S. prices have not been set.

The drives will be able to burn regular write-once and rewritable DVDs and CDs as well.

The Sony and Philips drives will use somewhat different discs. Sony calls its variant DVD-R DL. The Philips equivalent is DVD+R DL. Both disc types should be readable in standard DVD drives and players.

Sony estimates the blank discs will cost $5 to $6. Philips does not have an estimate yet.

The dual-layer discs will be slower to burn than single-layer discs — the drives will be rated as burning at 2.4 times faster than playback speed, versus eight times for single-layer discs.

A full 8.5 gigabytes will take about 45 minutes to burn.

gear02
03-22-2004, 10:12 AM
god damnit...why did I read the title as dual layer burritos?

Merlin
03-22-2004, 10:22 AM
The new technology is sure to appeal to those who back up or copy movie DVDs, since they often have to reduce image quality or remove special features to fit a copied movie onto a single-layer disc. With a dual-layer drive, an exact copy on a single disc should be possible.
Should be possible? I'll have to get more information on this. So far I have waited to get a DVD Burner because I want one that can back up my movies the same way my CD burner can back up my CDs. If these guys can make perfect backups of movie DVDs then I'm there. Well once the price comes down a little and they burn a little faster. :P

bachviet
03-22-2004, 03:11 PM
I still stick with my single layer DVD burner for now, i.e. I have no $$$.

Curious
03-22-2004, 09:58 PM
I have to ask myself if I really, REALLY want to get a computer now with the single layer DVD burner, or if I want to wait two months when the dual layer DVD burners will command a premium (not to mention to discs themselves), or if I will add on to the computer I would buy now in a year or so (and thus be drooling over what computer I could have bought later). And then I'm reminded that there will always be something better over the horizon...

verve247
03-22-2004, 11:03 PM
The biggest delay to these new drives is the companies trying to find a manufacturer for the new discs. Supposedely Sony has contacted Verbatim to make them.

kimchicowboy
03-22-2004, 11:18 PM
HD DVD. COOOOL. :thumbup:

bigmontana
03-24-2004, 06:10 PM
Now, if I owned a video rental store, I would take advantage of this by charging a monthly fee of say $30 for unlimited rentals, no yearly memberships required, pay month to month and rent all you want.

Tommy Boomfiger
03-24-2004, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by bigmontana
Now, if I owned a video rental store, I would take advantage of this by charging a monthly fee of say $30 for unlimited rentals, no yearly memberships required, pay month to month and rent all you want. ya know, some video rental stores already do that :P. and im sure that most people who sign up for those plans dont use it to copy dvds. most people dont even know how to copy dvds

bigmontana
03-25-2004, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by Tommy Boomfiger
ya know, some video rental stores already do that :P. and im sure that most people who sign up for those plans dont use it to copy dvds. most people dont even know how to copy dvds

As I said, the new dual layer technology will make it easier to copy dvd's. It will be more along the line of copying cd's - a 1 to 1 copy - most people don't do it now becuase you cannot make a 1 to 1 copy but with the new burners you don't have to worry about compression and stripping out extra features. All that will be needed now is a simpler program along the lines of those used for cd copying.