76 mpg Honda Accord

[guiseppewv]

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/ae_news_story.php?id=46692


It's a record breaker! The new Honda Accord diesel has set a total of 19 new world records for speed. Among the figures achieved at the Papenburg oval test track in Germany was an average sustained speed of 130.38mph over a 24-hour period. The car also achieved average fuel economy of 92mpg when driven on a mixed road route. The two cars involved were selected at random off the production line by independent adjudicators.

BTW 92 mpg Imperial is ~76 mpg US

This is very interesting. It would be nice to lessen our dependance on oil like this. One note though, do not count on a car like this coming to the US until we lower the amount of sulfur in our diesel fuel gets lowered to the standards in the UK and Europe which should happen in 2006 or 2008

[kei2]

Running a car 24 hours just for the heck of it (and for a record) seems stupid to me.

[Kevster]

Running a car 24 hours just for the heck of it (and for a record) seems stupid to me.

It's not for the heck of it. It's actually a test of the car's design and manufacture and quality. Considering that this vehicle ran at sustained high-speeds over a 24-hour period at an exteremely high level of fuel economy speaks volumes for Honda. Honda has a quality reputation for a reason.

Ford, on the other hand, has a reputation that includes many different meanings of the acronym F.O.R.D. including "Found Off Road, Deserted", "Fixed Or Repaired Daily", "Driver Returns On Foot" (Ford reversed) and my favorite "F@#$ing Old Rebuilt Dodge".

[paulwpark]

I also like this one: FORD = Found On Road DEAD

:)

[guiseppewv]

Ashes to ashes dust to dust if it weren't for my FORD my tools would rust. :D

[johnnymk]

One note though, do not count on a car like this coming to the US until we lower the amount of sulfur in our diesel fuel gets lowered to the standards in the UK and Europe which should happen in 2006 or 2008

Just to help several hundred asthmatics from suffering needlessly.

[ialsohaveadream]

Seventy six miles per gallon? I'd be on the lot the first day. I HATE filling my car up. Not so much because of the cost, and only partly because of the environment. Really, I'm lazy.

[LegendKiller]

Seventy six miles per gallon? I'd be on the lot the first day. I HATE filling my car up. Not so much because of the cost, and only partly because of the environment. Really, I'm lazy.



What amazes me is that people think that great diesel milage is awesome, but forget that diesel has more particulate's than regular gas. So, while you may be saving money you are also polluting more AFAIK.


LK

[Kebbies]

ahh, ford...how much do i love thee? lemme count the ways:

Fast Only Rolling Downhill
Forget Our Racing Dreams
First On Recall Day
Frequently Overhauled, Rarely Driven
Fixed Or Repaired Daily

and one my brother just made up:

Flooped On Red Doriyaki

????

nothing personal against fords, but just some things i remember my friend listing off when he used to fix up fords :-)

[DankNstickY]

What amazes me is that people think that great diesel milage is awesome, but forget that diesel has more particulate's than regular gas. So, while you may be saving money you are also polluting more AFAIK.


LK

um... wouldnt it be burning slower, therefore it's the same as if it'd burn quick? it's not that now they come with huge gas tanks that allow them to last forever.

[bachviet]

Damn that's amazing. :eek:

I wonder what the new Accord V6 hybrid gas mileage is going to be. It is one of the car I consider getting this fall.

[guiseppewv]

What amazes me is that people think that great diesel milage is awesome, but forget that diesel has more particulate's than regular gas. So, while you may be saving money you are also polluting more AFAIK.


LK

Actually they are working on reducing particulate matter in diesel engines. The problem with diesels is the NOx and SOx particulate matter. Going to a lower sulfur diesel fuel, like Europe has, will greatly decrease the SOx byproducts from combustion. Take a look at popsci articles and popmech article on the new technology that is coming out or has come out (Europe) to reduce particulate matter. Unfortunately the people who have spread the word about diesel being bad have been misinformed. Diesel technology is just a little behind on the curve but diesel technology has made leaps and strides over the past few years in an attempt to catch up to gasoline emissions technology but more progress is still needed.

http://www.popsci.com/popsci/auto/article/0,12543,198235,00.html
http://www.popsci.com/popsci/auto/article/0,12543,409049-7,00.html
http://popularmechanics.mondosearch.com/cgi-bin/MsmGo.exe?grab_id=31&EXTRA_ARG=&CFGNAME=MssFind%2Ecfg&host_id=42&page_id=9180672&query=diesel&hiword=diesel+DIESELS+



http://www.popsci.com/popsci/auto/article/0,12543,409049-10,00.html
http://www.popsci.com/popsci/auto/article/0,12543,409049-9,00.html

[LPMiller]

Just to help several hundred asthmatics from suffering needlessly.

Between 100 and 150 million people around the globe -- roughly the equivalent of the population of the Russian Federation -- suffer from asthma and this number is rising. World-wide, deaths from this condition have reached over 180,000 annually.

Around 8% of the Swiss population suffers from asthma as against only 2% some 25-30 years ago.
In Germany, there are an estimated 4 million asthmatics.
In Western Europe as a whole, asthma has doubled in ten years, according to the UCB Institute of Allergy in Belgium.
In the United States, the number of asthmatics has leapt by over 60% since the early 1980s and deaths have doubled to 5,000 a year.
There are about 3 million asthmatics in Japan of whom 7% have severe and 30% have moderate asthma.
In Australia, one child in six under the age of 16 is affected.
Asthma is not just a public health problem for developed countries. In developing countries, however, the incidence of the disease varies greatly.

India has an estimated 15-20 million asthmatics.
In the Western Pacific Region of WHO, the incidence varies from over 50% among children in the Caroline Islands to virtually zero in Papua New Guinea.
In Brazil, Costa Rica, Panama, Peru and Uruguay, prevalence of asthma symptoms in children varies from 20% to 30%.
In Kenya, it approaches 20%.
In India, rough estimates indicate a prevalence of between 10% and 15% in 5-11 year old children.

[Airencracken]

Just put in biodiesel. Then make a biodiesel hybrid. :)

[johnnymk]

Asthma Statistics

i have asthma, too but I am definitely not going to blame it on diesel emissions, coal emissions or gasoline emissions. It's probably a deficiency I was born with and it appears to also be related to allergic reactions (mites, pollen, dust, cigarette smoke, etc.)

If I remember correctly, when the latest Clean Air Act was passed, the statistics showed it would aid in several hundred asthmatic cases.

[Merlin]

Stats
All those stats might actually mean something if they were put in some sort of context. Like comparing them overall polution levels in thier cournties or something. Otherwise they don't really tell us anything.

[guiseppewv]

All those stats might actually mean something if they were put in some sort of context. Like comparing them overall polution levels in thier cournties or something. Otherwise they don't really tell us anything.


:stupid:

[LPMiller]

Yeah, because the 60 percent rise in the US was caused by lowrider jeans. But they weren't to say anything other than there are more than a few hundred people with it.

Here are some more meaningless statistics.

20.3 million Americans report having asthma.1

6.3 million children under 18 report having asthma.1

More than 70% of people with asthma also suffer from allergies.2

10 million Americans suffer specifically from allergic asthma.3

From 1982-1996, the prevalence of asthma increased by 97 percent among women, compared with 22 percent among men.4

The prevalence of asthma increased 75% from 1980-1994.5

Asthma rates in children under the age of five have increased more than 160% from 1980-1994.5

In 2001, 12 million people had experienced an asthma attack in the previous year.1

In 2000, there were 10.4 million asthma-related outpatient visits to private physician offices and hospital clinics (4.6 million of these involved children under 18).1

There were 1.8 million asthma-related visits to emergency departments in 2000 (more than 728,000 of these involved children under 18).1

There were 465,000 asthma-related hospitalizations in 2000 (214,000 of these involved children under 18).1

There are approximately 5,000 deaths from asthma annually.6

Direct health care costs for asthma in the United States total more than $9.4 billion annually; indirect costs (lost productivity) add another $4.6 billion for a total of $14 billion. Inpatient hospital services represented the largest single direct medical expenditure, over $4 billion.6

More than 14 million school days are missed annually due to asthma.7

The value of reduced productivity due to loss of school days represented the largest single indirect cost related to asthma, approaching $1.5 billion.6

Asthma accounts for approximately 14.5 million missed work days for adults annually.6

The asthma prevalence rate in African Americans was 38% higher than the rate in whites in 1992.6

Asthma is 26% more prevalent in African American children than in white children.8

The prevalence of asthma in adult females was almost 30% greater than the rate in males, in 2002.6

The asthma prevalence rate for boys aged 0-17 years was over 30% higher than the rate among girls aged 0-17 years.6

Approximately 40% of children who have asthmatic parents will develop asthma.9


It's not all allergens. I've had it all my life, I know a little bit about it.

[Merlin]

Okay so there has been majot increases over the past couple of decades. But is there any indication as to why? Is there anything that can be done?

[LPMiller]

There are about 3 major studies underway to try and determine why. One study is hinting that asthma may actually be why there has been a drop in serious illness in this country, since asthma is an overreaction of the immune system to irritants and allergens. This amped up immune system might be less vulnerable to more traditional bugs.

The other two are investigating everything from location to food. The rise in rates is very disturbing, and we need to find out just what the hell is going on. Chances are they'll find a combination of factors, pollution being but one of them.

[Ladogaboy]

I'm pretty sure mine was caused by second-hand smoke. :shrug: