Don't answer the door during a party...

[Cantacuzene]

Could be bad news... (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=8&u=/ap/20040527/ap_on_fe_st/snooping_minors_1)

[look_ma]

$50 bucks, that is it, not worth the effort. Even if I was a pizza boy making only 5 bucks an hour, would not do it just because they want me to. Now I would rat them out if they were *******s, or bad tippers. If the pizza boy were smart he would say give me X amount and I will keep my mouth shut.

[Merlin]

Under a new law, it's illegal for the owner or occupants of a home or hotel room to host a gathering of five or more minors who are drinking or using drugs. Teens as young as 17 who throw a party could be tried as adults.
What, so that means it is okay if only three underage people are drinking? This is just plain stupid. Just what they need, another pointless law on the books.

[kei2]

:stupid: I guess three or four minors drinking isn't a problem, but five... oh five's too many. That's trawbul.

[Cantacuzene]

I wonder what % of the old fogies who past this law drank underage? I brand them the H-word.

[cheapie]

harlot? heifer? huge? hore?

???

[zenbooty]

What, so that means it is okay if only three underage people are drinking? This is just plain stupid. Just what they need, another pointless law on the books.What their saying is that if less than 5 are drinking, the law only goes after the kids and whoever gave them the liquor. But if more than 5 are drinking, whoever owns the place hosting them is also liable. It makes sense to me. If a couple kids drink, its possible they could have flown under the radar, and the parents or managers that own the house or establishment not known. Once there's more than five, the owners of the site can't possibly be ignorant of what's going on, or if they are, its criminally neglectful.

But trying the kids as adults? Jeez, that's way overboard. I remember when that strategy was used only for violent crimes. Now its the DA's favorite friggin' weapon.

[gwilks98]

harlot? heifer? huge? hore?

???


I think he means Hapoo.

/snicker

[whitak24]

I wonder what % of the old fogies who past this law drank underage? I brand them the H-word.
yeah, it always cracks me up because every politician i've ever worked with was a HUGE drinker. and somehow, i doubt they all started after they turned 21. :heh:

[Airencracken]

I wonder what % of the old fogies who past this law drank underage? I brand them the H-word.


:stupid:

Damn drunks. :D

[ShawnLee]

I think Zen has the best take on this.
Whoa, I feel weird just saying that. Haha.

Seriously though, when you got five drunk teenagers, you have to know what's going on.


And for a broke guy, I would rat everybody out for $50. Shoot. Any of you minors drunk right now?

[cheapie]

h word?

[mcs328]

Can't read that article at work. Put from the responses I'm guessing some pizza boy delivered the pizza and saw 5 or more clearly underage teens doing alcohol or drugs and reported them to the police. As a result, the host/hotel manager was criminally fined and the underage persons were tried as adults. Is that about right?

Hmmm...I think it's hard in a hotel setting but I think more of it as if you were hosting a party at a house. You can't help if a few teens sneak in a beer or two. If you got several and they were drinking and one of them goes out and kills someone while intoxicated then you better believe I blame the host for not taking action. The more people involved then more extremely neglegent you are for not seeing what in front of you.

Of course I can't read the article right now so I can be very wrong. I'll do a search. My two pretty pennies :)

[bmw9983]

h word?


Unless my sarcasm detector is broken and you actually know what he means, he's calling them hypocrites as far as I can tell.

[Airencracken]

Unless my sarcasm detector is broken and you actually know what he means, he's calling them hypocrites as far as I can tell.

That's what I got, but I think cheapie was calling shawnlee on his hypocrital statement


I think Zen has the best take on this.
Whoa, I feel weird just saying that. Haha.

Seriously though, when you got five drunk teenagers, you have to know what's going on.


And for a broke guy, I would rat everybody out for $50. Shoot. Any of you minors drunk right now?

[blueindian]

Once there's more than five, the owners of the site can't possibly be ignorant of what's going on, or if they are, its criminally neglectful.


At my mom's place in highschool i threw several parties with 10-15 peeps hanging out and drinking...my mom never knew. i don't think it would be fair to hold her criminally neglegent.

at my dads on the other hand, well...he knew so that could be different. but at my mom's i only did it when she was out of town and we didn't **** up the house or anything so :shrug:

[mcs328]

Okay I found the article on the web. I thought a pizza guy actually turned in some teens but it's more about a law giving money to pizza guys if they do rat out people rather than them doing it voluntarily. Not the way I would go I guess...it's like people who have information about murderers but wait for the reward money to go higher. In either case, the guy with the information can blackmail the offender and still turn them in. But again I think you can be charged with obstruction of justice for being hold out right? I dunno. Brain tired...me sleepy.

[DarkFury]

NARC! NARC!!! :hihi:

[cheapie]

actually i didn't know which h word he was referring to. kinda like when i didn't know the jewish epitath.

[ShawnLee]

How did I get dragged into the H thing? Where was I being a hypocrite? Me lost.

[zenbooty]

At my mom's place in highschool i threw several parties with 10-15 peeps hanging out and drinking...my mom never knew. i don't think it would be fair to hold her criminally neglegent.No offense, but I would think its fair. A parent is responsible for the behavior of the children. She should have known if you were throwing parties with that many people. Its her job to know.

[Memo]

No offense, but I would think its fair. A parent is responsible for the behavior of the children. She should have known if you were throwing parties with that many people. Its her job to know.

If the kid purposely deceives the mom how is she ever going to know? Kids have parties ALL the time when parents go out of town. If you don't **** up the house and clean up afterwards then no one ever knows. It would be totally unfair to hold a parent responsible for that.

[zenbooty]

If the kid purposely deceives the mom how is she ever going to know? Kids have parties ALL the time when parents go out of town. If you don't **** up the house and clean up afterwards then no one ever knows. It would be totally unfair to hold a parent responsible for that.No its not. If the kids can deceive their parents then thats the parent's problem. I know I would have never gotten away with such a thing, because my parents knew better than to leave their teens alone in the house for that long a period of time.

[ShawnLee]

That doesn't make it any less the responsibilty of the parents. It's not something new where parents are responsible for it, the parents already are responsible.

[redcolours]

Could be bad news... (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=8&u=/ap/20040527/ap_on_fe_st/snooping_minors_1)
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SPURBURY POLICE!!!!

[bachviet]

That's pretty dumb. :disa:

[WhiskeyPapa]

This reminds me of a documentary on East Germany. At the height of the cold war, it's estimated that half of the citizens were engaged in spying, surveilling or otherwise reporting on the other half of the population.

[Nija]

And that is why all our underage parties were BBQ'/BYOB.