the direction the economy is headed

[Tuvi]

any input is appreciated.

[maggiebirdie]

I think it is headed in a good direction.

[Tuvi]

what?? what kind of name is maggiebirdie

[maggiebirdie]

what kind of name is TUVI??? It is named after my pet genius! what's your reasoning?? hmmm????

[Tuvi]

uhh my imaginary friend.. i have no friends what can i say. *sniff*

[maggiebirdie]

awwwwwwwwwwww don't cry *hugs*

[Tuvi]

hugs?? are you gay!!!

[maggiebirdie]

No sorry to disappoint you.

[Tuvi]

hahahaha someone took their wit pill today

[maggiebirdie]

yea, obviously you forgot to take your nice pill :-P

[Tuvi]

what does this have to do with the economy anyway. lets bring this discussion back on track people. wrap it up, get it together, take a valium.

[renots]

Doing good...unless they come up with new Taxes.

:0)

[Tuvi]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by maggiebirdie:
yea, obviously you forgot to take your nice pill :-P<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
yeah i haven't invented it yet.. can't sacrifice stability for quantum energy. late nights on my laptop are in my future.

[maggiebirdie]

indeed. The economy is doing good, no thanks to the sorry excuse of a president we have. YAY!

[Tuvi]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by renots:
Doing good...unless they come up with new Taxes.

:0)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

hahah for a second there i thought that said Texas instead of Taxes. i think we would get rid of texas. that would improve the economy and much more.

[maggiebirdie]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmK
interesting

[NiceMann]

Get raid of Texas?????? You seen the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders? hehe http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

~NiceMann

[maggiebirdie]

I agree! Get rid of texas. I have cousins and other relatives there. another good reason. http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Tuvi]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by maggiebirdie:
I agree! Get rid of texas. I have cousins and other relatives there. another good reason. http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

please refrain from using smilies. all the colors make me go into seizures.

[maggiebirdie]

hahahahaha http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Tuvi]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NiceMann:
Get raid of Texas?????? You seen the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders? hehe http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

~NiceMann<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

who cares about cheerleaders when there are awesome looking people like me out there?!

[AJ]

tuvi you're not fooling anyone with your fake arguments.... http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/tongue.gif

[sbp]

Personally I'd prefer to get rid of DC. Ah hell throw in Baltimore too while your at it. Now that'll be something to cheer.

<img src="http://www.geocities.com/sbp7777/files2/cheerldr.gif" alt="Rah Rah!!"><img src="http://www.geocities.com/sbp7777/files2/cheerldr.gif" alt="Rah Rah!!"><img src="http://www.geocities.com/sbp7777/files2/cheerldr.gif" alt="Rah Rah!!"><img src="http://www.geocities.com/sbp7777/files2/cheerldr.gif" alt="Rah Rah!!"><img src="http://www.geocities.com/sbp7777/files2/cheerldr.gif" alt="Rah Rah!!">

[Tuvi]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AJ:
tuvi you're not fooling anyone with your fake arguments.... http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/tongue.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

who ever said i was trying to fool anyone?

[AJ]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sbp:
Personally I'd prefer to get rid of DC. Ah hell throw in Baltimore too while your at it. Now that'll be something to cheer.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Baltimore/Washington corridor is the best area of the whole world!

[pennypinch]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AJ:
The Baltimore/Washington corridor is the best area of the whole world!

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
To poop on.

[renots]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AJ:
The Baltimore/Washington corridor is the best area of the whole world!
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ya, if you don't want to work to make the world a better place, figuring out new ways of taking other people's $$$ comes in a distant 2nd.

:0)

[renots]

Texas aint so bad; they just need to make sure people are actually guilty of their accused crime before they rush off to fry them

[CluelessSi]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by renots:
Texas aint so bad; they just need to make sure people are actually guilty of their accused crime before they rush off to fry them<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://smilecwm.tripod.com/dvv/nuke24.gif

http://smilecwm.tripod.com/cwm/eek3.gif



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~Reality is an illusion~

[renots]

j/k Death penalty sucks big time.

[reagancajun]

Why, if the economy is so great, am I so POOR!!! I know why: I'm not a computer person. I post here and get all my free stuff online, but I have to admit when my little cousing wanted to "burn" my cd, I was outraged. And I'm only 22 (will be 23 on the 14th of this month--happy birthday to me). But I'll never be one of those "dot com" millionaires.

I think the rising interest rates mean that we're growing a little too fast. The fed wants to curb excess spending and growth. I think that's a sign we're due for a correction. Or maybe I'm all doom and gloom because I'm not getting rich. Hmmmm....

[renots]

Dotcommers are falling out of favor anyways.

The next easiest way to become a millionaire will be to become a DotNetter!

;0)

[renots]

Why does everyone still think the Fed is important? As it is they control less than 10% of the money supply.

And why does Greenspan need to keep cranking up rates? Hello there Alan, an economy based on non-tangible goods(information) can probably grow in a healthy non-inflationary manner at a rate greater than 3%. Last time I checked, the 70's were over and technology and effiency have increased just a bit since then.

I bet the modern American economy could grow at a rate of 20% a year[eliminate income tax on income below $100,000 per individual], be environmentally cleaner, and involve less work for everyone. We just have to believe that it is possible.

:0)

[Paladin]

I think this thread has not gone to far in the dirrection it suggests and think It should be closed. As for the first 10 posts have nothing to do with the economy.

[visualMAN]

In my opinion the economy is doing well rite now. Most definately better than Reagon and Bush's year while in office.

If Bush gets elected I predict their will be a recession, just as his fathers' presidentcy. Bush will build up the military unneccessarily, probably go into a war to test out military. Invest in the social securrity that is a good idea, but lets be real 70% or more of the population does not know how to invest.

Chaney will make the comands and decisions, as Bush just kicks back and smiles. Also Chaney's health is a major factor, w/ 3 heartattacks, come on now if he dies in office because of health reason their will be a huge crisis in the US. I believe Bush is not ready yet to Govern this nation yet. I think McCain was a better person to run for the Republican party. But the main pepole from the Rep. party and press already written him off from day 1.

I know who David Duke is going to vote for, hmm maybe Bush.. haha haha
And whats up w/ Bush making a fun of Catholics when he made a visit at the university.(thats messed up yo!!)

How many people are you going to kill George W. Bush while in office @ TExas.
Maybe its a good idea that Bush is leaving Texas to save more innocent souls and lives. =)


[This message has been edited by visualMAN (edited 08-08-2000).]

[renots]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by visualMAN:
Bush will build up the military unneccessarily, probably go into a war to test out military. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Will the American people let this happen? I support a military to protect us from little green (or grey) men, not to go inflicting pain and suffering on other human beings.

;0)

[renots]

My favorite what-if scenario is Cheny having health problems one week before the election,
allowing Colin Powell to fill the emergency vacancy for Vice-president.

:0)

[renots]

I think this country has not gone to far in the dirrection it suggests and think It should be closed. As for the first 224 years have nothing to do with the economy.

[visualMAN]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by visualMAN:
In my opinion the economy is doing well rite now. Most definately better than Reagon and Bush's year while in office.

If Bush gets elected I predict their will be a recession, just as his fathers' presidentcy. Bush will build up the military unneccessarily, probably go into a war to test out military. Invest in the social securrity that is a good idea, but lets be real 70% or more of the population does not know how to invest.

Chaney will make the comands and decisions, as Bush just kicks back and smiles. Also Chaney's health is a major factor, w/ 3 heartattacks, come on now if he dies in office because of health reason their will be a huge crisis in the US. I believe Bush is not ready yet to Govern this nation yet. I think McCain was a better person to run for the Republican party. But the main pepole from the Rep. party and press already written him off from day 1.

I know who David Duke is going to vote for, hmm maybe Bush.. haha haha
And whats up w/ Bush making a fun of Catholics when he made a visit at the university.(thats messed up yo!!)

How many people are going to be killed while George W. Bush is in office @ TExas.
Maybe its a good idea that Bush is leaving Texas to save more innocent souls and lives. =)


[This message has been edited by visualMAN (edited 08-08-2000).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[renots]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by visualMAN:
I know who David Duke is going to vote for, hmm maybe Bush.. haha haha
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Considering how far Al Gore is willing to go to the right these days, hmm maybe Gore...

some Al quotables from
<A HREF="http://www.miamiconfidential.com/Page_1x.htm#TXTANC7CF85D1291F460" TARGET=_blank>WHOSE GORE
IS BEING AXED?</A>


LOSING IT: "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."

SPACE CADET: "Welcome to President Clinton, Mrs. Clinton, and my fellow astronauts."

QUICK! CUT THE OXYGEN: "Mars is essentially in the same orbit... Mars is somewhat the same distance from the Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures where there are canals, we believe, and water. If there is water, that means there is oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can breathe."

IT'S NOT HIS FAULT--HE'S DEAD: "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean, in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century."

UNCERTAIN INEVITABILITY: "I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and democracy--but that could change."

THREE FOR THE PRICE OF ONE: "One word sums up probably the responsibility of any vice president, and that one word is 'to be prepared'."

THE PRESENT, HOWEVER, SUCKS: "I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future."

MARK MY WORD! "The future will be better tomorrow."

WARNING TO COMMUNIST CHINA: "We're going to have the best-educated American people in the world."

AL THE CARTOGRAPHER: "We have a firm commitment to NATO. We are a part of NATO. We have a firm commitment to Europe. We are a part of Europe."

TOO EASY, PERHAPS: "Public speaking is very easy."

AND A HIGH VOTER TURNOUT? "A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls."

AL'S C.I.A. TRAINING: "When I have been asked who caused the riots and the killing in L.A., my answer has been direct and simple: Who is to blame for the riots? The rioters are to blame. Who is to blame for the killings? The killers are to blame."

SAME GOES FOR STUPIDITY: "Illegitimacy is something we should talk about in terms of not having it."

ROCKET SCIENTIST: "For NASA, space is still a high priority."

WHAT DO TEACHERS DO? "Quite frankly, teachers are the only profession that teach our children."

ELEMENTAL ENVIRONMENTALISM: "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it."[kinda strangelovian]

BURN, BABY, BURN: "[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."

NOT TO MENTION GRAVITY: "As many of you know, I was very instrumental in the founding of the Internet.

FOUR MORE YEARS! "People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history."

I YAM WHAT I YAM: "I stand by all the misstatements that I've made."

:0)


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[renots]

Some one needs to improve the quality of vice-presidential candidates.

Dick Cheney quotables

ON AMBITION:"I set out to be a political science teacher. My years in Washington sort of got in the way of that, but it all ties in. What I want to do is political stuff."

ON PATRIOTISM:"I had other priorities in the '60s thsn military service."

ON DEFENSE:"Denuclearization is not a good idea."

ON BLOATED DEFENSE BUDGET:"Threats have become remote. So remote they are difficult to discern."[Darn UFOs :0)]

ON THE IMPORTANCE OF EDUCATION(SPECIFICALLY, HIS AT YALE):"I flunked out."

ON STYLE:"I don't tend to pound on the podium and drool."

ON HIS SIMILARITY TO POPEYE:"I am what I am, and if people aren't willing to accept me on that basis then, hell, vote for somebody else."
http://www.motherjones.com/reality_check/cheney.html

:0)

[renots]

:0P (http://www.motherjones.com/news_wire/cheney.html), he's really starting to stink (http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=9519).

Better cut this one loose, GW.

[This message has been edited by renots (edited 08-13-2000).]

[CuriousGeorge157]

economic globalization and the WTO are destroying us all. The economy looks pretty healty and stable, but the environment is going down hill. Our agriculture stinks due to the monocultural crops being replaced by the native ones. The poor is getting poorer and the rich richer. Ozone layer and sea level rise is worsening. We'll be lucky if we have enough water for the world by the year 2050. Everyone can thank the WTO.

[Grizybaer]

Put money in SS? are you kidding me? Taxes are high as hell already, i'd rather take my SS money, invest it all and double it or, buy a new car and have fun, or buy flowers for my girl. Save? If i wanted to do that, i could do it myself, more efficiently too. Right now all the old ppl are leaching off the work force, that wasnt too bad before when ppl didnt live that long but today ppl are living longer and there are alot of them, soon it'll be down to a 6 to 1, 4 to 1 even 2 to 1 ratio. That'd mean that for every old man out there, there are two working ppl that are paying him money through the government. We know the few thousand they take from us now wont buy anything when we retire. If i retired today and wanted to get some gas, its 1.73 around here, when they were working, lets say 20-30 years ago, gas was cheap, less than a buck, maybe 50 cents. Social Security is pretty much a lost cause, its gonna end eventually, sooner is better than later.

As for the prez, i think he's doing a great job, i dont really care what he does in his spare time, as long as he's not selling secrets to russia/china/iraq, hes fine. JFK had some fun with marylin monroe but everyone still seems to love him.

Both Bush and Gore suck @ss, if makes me want to abstain cuz their both so bad. Somehow if the two term limit wasnt there and Clinton ran for re-election, i'm sure he'd win in a heart beat.

------------------
~Grizy
Great, so how much is shipping?

[renots]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Grizybaer:
As for the prez, i think he's doing a great job, i dont really care what he does in his spare time, as long as he's not selling secrets to russia/china/iraq, hes fine.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

;0)

[renots]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by visualMAN:
State your party affiliation, and state. So i know where your comming from. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Independent, Northern California

:0)

[renots]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Grizybaer:
i dont really care what he does in his spare time, as long as he's not selling secrets to russia/china/iraq, hes fine. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Is he still fine if he is selling secrets to russia/china/iraq in his spare time?

[renots]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by visualMAN:
I think your some where from the south (atlanta), your probably one of those Newt Gingrich fans...BOooooooBoooooo
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I do like to drink lots of Coca-Cola (http://www.sightings.com/general3/coca.htm), but I definately think newt needs to get a personality transplant before he can show his face in public again.

:0)

[This message has been edited by renots (edited 08-14-2000).]

[visualMAN]

WHo is dis Renots person? That doesnt even make no sence at all.

State your party affiliation, and state. So i know where your comming from.

I think your some where from the south (atlanta), your probably one of those Newt Gingrich fans...BOooooooBoooooo

[visualMAN]

You dont sound like a independent Renots..

If your from California Renots, look wut Gov Davis has done and what Wilson has done.
Gov Davis had done more for the people of California, than Wilson has done in his years as Gov. Thank goodness!!!!! Wilson left.... (ex.)GOv. Davis is for education, cutting the cost of uc's and csu. I dont remember Wilson doing that..
OoO Come to think of it, I heard Gov. Davis might run for president next comming presidential election.

That is the difference between a Democrat and a Republican .
A Democrat helps and care about people in need and the common person.
But a Republican only cares about them selves. In which is messed up!!!!

Renots you do not know what you are talking about, won't you just make one good post instead of like 4. hahaha

"Think about the other person around you, not just about yourself."

[renots]

Some people look only at labels; other at the actual person.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by visualMAN:
That is the difference between a Democrat and a Republican .
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[renots]

Republicans have had their fair share of nazi candidates(Dan Lungren :0P), but I'm not going to ignore fascism in any candidate, regardless of his or her label.

I voted for Bill Lockyer for California AG and I think he's doing a D#MN GOOD job. Grey Davis, on the other hand...is pretty grey.

:0)

[renots]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by visualMAN:
"Think about the other person around you, not just about yourself."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mussolini would have loved that quote

;0)

[renots]

Remember, eliminating federal income tax will make schools and universities significantly cheaper to run than they are now, allowing access to more people.

"Think different"

;0)

[renots]

WHo is dis visualMAN person? That doesnt even make no sence at all.

State your party affiliation, and state. So i know where your comming from.

:0)

[renots]

http://www.skolnicksreport.com/goldenboy2.html

Admittedly Al Gore does haves his good points too

...

Presidential candidate Albert Gore, Jr., could not be counted on to whitewash dirty tricks by the American CIA. As U.S. Senator, he sat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, and often angered and embarrassed the spy agency community with his demands for data and for answers to his critical questions.

They tried to counter him by muttering that his father, Albert Gore, Sr., was a reputed Communist-sympathizer close in business with Armand Hammer, Occidental Petroleum boss, with an office in Red Square, Moscow.

Just about the time of the 1996 election, to try to counter Gore, the spy agencies reportedly instigated a book by Edward Epstein about Hammer, outlining the elder Gore's reputed Communist leanings.

...

[renots]

Speaking of Occidental, Al Gore had better get a clue before he loses his status as 'patron saint of the environment'.
http://www.sfbg.com/News/34/45/45nfdnc.html

Crashing the party
(Or: Y2GO2D2KLA)

By Daniel Zoll

...

When an angry army of protesters descends on the Democratic National Convention in Los Angeles Aug. 14, members of Colombia's indigenous U'wa tribe will be leading the way.

It's a perfect expression of how globalization – so aggressively fast-tracked by Democratic nominee Al Gore – is inspiring far-flung movements to get connected.

The U'wa have been fighting L.A.-based Occidental Petroleum's environmentally destructive plans to drill in their sacred homeland, and they vow to commit mass suicide if it goes through. Occidental's partner in the project, Royal Dutch/Shell, has pulled out, citing human rights and public relations concerns.

Al Gore, whose father was a vice president and board member of Occidental, owns at least $500,000 in the company's stock. Environmentalists have lobbied Gore to divest or to pressure Occidental to abandon the project.

Instead, as the Nation reports, the Clinton administration "has been quietly helping the company – a generous donor to the Democrats in recent years – to win support in Colombia for its drilling plans."

...

Good thing Al invented the internet so at least we fix things up

:0)

[renots]

http://www.sightings.com/general3/who.htm

Thomas Jefferson once said:

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies . . . If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] . . .will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered . . . The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson --The Debate Over The Recharter Of The Bank Bill, (1809)

Jefferson's prophesy has come true.

...

Time to make his last statement True

;0)

[renots]

I'd still like to see Al Gore in government though. I think he would be most useful as a truely reform-minded head of the Central Intelligence Agency, George Bush's old job.

;0)

[sbp]

The following quotes are taken from visualMAN's posts unless otherwise noted.

"In my opinion the economy is doing well rite now." Yep its doing well <u>right</u> now and and its not due to Slick Willie either visualMAN.

"Most definately better than Reagon and Bush's year while in office." Heh I wasn't aware <u>Reagan</u> and Bush only spent one year in office. Most <u>definitely</u> when Reagan took office the country was in a deep recession due to that smuck Jimmy Carter. After taking office Reagan initiated policies like cutting taxes and holding back big government $pending. That helped the economy to boom since people actually could put the money they earned to work for them. Like starting small businesses. Not to mention he led the free world to a great victory over the commies. We're still reaping the benefits of his presidentcy. http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/smile.gif

"Bush will build up the military unneccessarily, probably go into a war to test out military." Yes liberals certainly wouldn't want the military to get all the "unneccessary" funding it needs to carry out its mission. That would be a tragedy for sure. http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif The US military is underfunded. Its being used as the world's police force. Its spread out all over the world doing bullcrap so-called peacekeeping missions. I also heard the same thing said about Reagan, McCain and Bush Senior. That those warmongers would get us into a war to test out the military. These men knew the price of war unlike Bill "I drafted the dodge and hated the military" Clinton. Hey y'all where's that milk producing Sudanese factory so I can bomb it to divert attention from yet another one of my scandals? *yuckyuckyuck*

"Invest in the social securrity that is a good idea, but lets be real 70% or more of the population does not know how to invest.". What a sad and arrogant statement to make. Maybe this due to liberals dumbing down the public school system. But due to the Republican governors education in this country has gotten better. Compare this to how the ponzi scheme known as social <u>security</u> works now. Social security is a pay as you go system. The money is not saved for you in some account in DC. With Big Nanny Government you have no choice on how you invest your money. Oh no we wouldn't want to give people a choice in how to invest their money would we?

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">The fortuneteller known as visualMAN predicted:</font><HR>If Bush gets elected I predict their will be a recession, just as his fathers' presidentcy.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>You got any stock predictions man? Or can you not (heh) visualize them? Can you read my palm? Will I not have enough beer for tonight?

"Chaney will make the comands and decisions, as Bush just kicks back and smiles." Lol what a wonderful made up statement. Here's Bush kicking back and smiling as he snuckered Cheney into doing the <u>commands</u> and decisions of the presidency. Bet y'all didn't know Chency is also Texas's Governor too. http://news.agn.com/forum3d/i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

http://www.geocities.com/sbp7777/files2/bushcheney.jpg

"I believe Bush is not ready yet to Govern this nation yet.". Lets see Dubya Bush a second term governor from one of America's biggest states isn't ready to govern America. Yet Billy Boy Clinton a second rate governor from a second rate state was? Yeah right.

Here's something else for you to consider. The great president Ronald Reagan was a two term governor of California.

"I think McCain was a better person to run for the Republican party." McCain's hot temper didn't help him out in the primaries. And his disgusting Christian bashing certainly hurt him big time. That's why <u>people</u> didn't vote for him.

"I know who David Duke is going to vote for, hmm maybe Bush.. haha haha" I know who Al Sharpton is going to vote for, hmm maybe Gore.. haha haha

"And whats up w/ Bush making a fun of Catholics when he made a visit at the university. (thats messed up yo!!)" Bush spoke on many college campuses one of which was Bob Jones university. Bob Jones university has some strange ideas about Catholics. Bob Jones university also had some stupid ban (now repealed) against interracial dating. Hey its a free country if they want to think that way they may. And this is coming from a Catholic. And what's up with all the policially correct mindset that advocates censorship on many college campuses today?(thats messed up yo!!)

Furthermore its doubtful you really care about anti-Catholic bigotry anyway visualMAN.

"How many people are you going to kill George W. Bush while in office @ TExas." You could say the same thing about Clinton while in office @ Arkansas. He rushed back to Arkansas to have some guy executed so he could appear tough on crime. That's a joke-a liberal tough on crime.

"Maybe its a good idea that Bush is leaving Texas to save more innocent souls and lives. =)" It is a good thing that trash is leaving the white house so now we finally start cleaning up and not have a president that everyone looks down on. =)

-----------------------------------<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">CuriousGeorge157 alarmingly stated the following nonsense:</font><HR>economic globalization and the WTO are destroying us all. The economy looks pretty healty and stable, but the environment is going down hill. Our agriculture stinks due to the monocultural crops being replaced by the native ones. The poor is getting poorer and the rich richer. Ozone layer and sea level rise is worsening. {snip} Everyone can thank the WTO.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> We're all going to die! Ahhhh. http://news.agn.com/forum3d/i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif

Weatherman can't even predict the weather 2 days from now. Yet we're supposed to believe the manure being pooped out. Using the environment as a reason to stop progress is becoming a way of life in this country. We can't build a new road due to it might hurt the environment. boohoo. I especially love how the environmentalist wackos tried to stop a desperately needed replacement for the Wilson Bridge from being build. Wilson bridge is literally falling down. Yet this enviromentalist extremist group wants to stop it from being build. They sit there and have filled lawsuit after lawsuit trying to get things their way. When the judge asked them to come up with a plan for the bridge they didn't come up with squat. Now the taxpayer has to $pend millions of dollars shoring up the old bridge due to the delay. Who cares about that. After all the poor taxpayer is going to pay for it.

These environmentalist numskulls love congestion. They want to force people out of their cars and take public transportation that doesn't go where people need to go. Who the hell put these head cases in charge of the environment? They say something and that's the way its going to be? They can shove it where the sunscreen doesn't go. Hopefully one day they'll also realize America is a growing country.

Ever hear of something called the <font color=#32CD32>green</font> revolution by the way? This has enabled more poor people around the world to actually eat and live. We can also thank the Sierra Club, Greenpeace, and Friends of the Earth amongst other enviromental extremist organizations for spreading FUD. By the way FUD=Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. Shame on those scaremongers.

"We'll be lucky if we have enough water for the world by the year 2050." Hey as long as we got plenty of beer. http://www.geocities.com/sbp7777/files/wink2.gif

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<u>back to visualMAN now:</u>

"WHo is dis Renots person?" <u>This</u> Renots person is someone who is trying to make people think and having a little

[reg]

[renots]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sbp:
And what's up with all the policially correct mindset that advocates censorship on many college campuses today?(thats messed up yo!!)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you sbp, you saved me alot of typing, and good layout too :0)

Students,

When you go back to school this fall don't take any SH!T from any administration official that tries to stomp on your First Ammendment Rights. Give them Hell, it's your obligation as a Free American.

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[CuriousGeorge157]

SPB: Yeah that's rite we're all going to die..but what about your children and their grandchildren? How do you think someone would feel if they got skin cancer from hanging out in the sun because of all the CFCs and CO2's floating in the air? Don't u care about the environment that they are going to live in? Obiviously no. It isn't "nonsense" that economic globalization is messing up the world. It isn't the environment that slows down progess, but rather the progress of technological innovation that has slowed down the growth of the native land. It is these "environmental numskulls" that fight for the rights of the poorer countries that are taken away by greedy global corporations, like the WTO. It is these "environ. numskulls" that are concerned about not only the environment (saving forests and endangered animals) , but also the people in the environment affected by the negative effects of technology which who are too poor and weak to do anything about it ( i.e the Third World countries).
Also, America may be a growing country, but due to the population boom and the progress of scientific advancement- urbanization will expand expontentially and when it does, when we run out of room in America, what would happen then? It's funny that u should say that America would be a country with no place to grow. Because when it does happen you can criticize that these( as u are implying) enivronmentalist are basically idiots and waste taxpayers money. These environmentalist are just trying to take care of the land and perserve it.
As for the Green Revolution, it is a big flop. Monculture crops planted are easily preyed on and destroyed by pests. Although planting monoculture crops are efective and fast in the short run, in the long run it is a major set back for all- including those hungary people in the world. These crops' immunity are weakened by pests that destroy fields in numerous amounts. When this happens then all those hungary people have nothing to eat. Yeah sure why not spray some pesticides and everything will be okay. Sorry, it isn't that easy. Spraying too much pesticides causes a ressurgence which therefore,causes pesticide resistance for pests. Eventually no matter how much spray you use on the crops, these pests will no longer die and it will not have a single effect on them at all. A couple years back while the "Green Revolution" was a popular notion, Indonesia tried it. They had over 80 different types of rice before they switched to the monoculture rice (which was just one or two main types of rice). For about a yr, things went pretty smooth, rice production was fast because they no longer had to wait for a fallow period like the native rice crops was required to, but then brown grasshoppers grew a resistance to pesticides and preyed on the weak rice crops that did not have any resistance to the hoppers. Hundreds of rice fields were destroyed simply because they were all the same crops and had no immunity from these pests. So, this delay provided not only a mess to the Indonesia's economy (since they rely on rice as a major export) but, hungry people got no food. Well, the rice farmers of Indonesia ended up going back to Intergrated Pest Management and restoring their native, slow crops. They used natural methods like crops rotation to take care of the land instead of pesticides. You complain that the environmentalists are costing the taxpayers money, but look what the governments and corporations are doing. In order to make quicker profits they are using massive amounts of pesticides. Pesticides don't come cheap. Billions of dollars are spent on pesticide to, as someone like u would say, to perserve crops. Environmentalists are merely just trying to undue the destruction that greedy corporations has created. So while you cap on the environmentalists, please be aware of the effects that urbanization and land degradation (increased by econmic globalization)has on the world and the future. Not every one can live in la la land as you can, most have to be realistic.

[renots]

An end of subsidies for certain megalithic entities would be a start. More People doing their own organic farming (http://www.doitnow.com/~smd/agorg.htm) would help too.

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[visualMAN]

I remeber the story when JFK and RObert Kennedy (democrat)helped get Martin Luther King Jr out of jail for fighting for the civil rights for blacks and minorities.

GoV. Walllace (republican)from the south hmm..Alambama..?
Trien to run for precidency, on the platform of discrimination.
Its things like this that people remember.

haha the republican convention was a Big joke, they can stop fronting now. With all the blacks and minorities on stage.
You know and I know that they dont care about them. First of all Colen Powell is a sellout, he just got lucky in life..haha
The republicans are not known to help out the people in need. SO wut "let them eat cake?" or do wut reagon did just ignore the word "HOMELESSNESS" as said by one of his x-staff said in book.

See Al Gore is like a common person, I remember he went to support the janitors strike in LA, california. i believe thats what JFK would do. =)(helping out the common person)

Yea wussup with "Jesus Day" in texas...blah blah.../remember SEPeration of Church and state.

SO whats wrong being buddist, musslim, atheiest, I thought this was a free nation eh. I think people should study how this nation was founded and created by the Great founding fahters, then talk.

John Rocker sucks...BOOOOOOO ATL braves....bad pr move by braves....
i think rocker is going to vote for bush, thats another reason not to vote for bush..
J. Rocker is a typical racist person that still exist in us of a.

[dark helmet]

Right now we are at the peak of the business cycle, so enjoy it while you can before you have to take your bite of the big sh*t sandwich that's on the horizon.

P.s. If you live in the silicon valley, I will give you 10:1 odds that this place will be a ghost town within the next couple of years.

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"I ALWAYS HAVE COFFEE WHEN I WATCH RADAR!!!"

[renots]

Eliminate Income Tax below $100,000

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by visualMAN:
i believe thats what JFK would do. =)(helping out the common person)
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[renots]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dark helmet:
Right now we are at the peak of the business cycle, so enjoy it while you can <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

that is unless we do something truely progressive and eliminate federal income tax on income below $100,000. Allow enough 'headroom' so everyone can enjoy a higher (and cleaner) standard of living.

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[visualMAN]

As Truman said,"IF you want to live like a Republican, you got to vote Democrat."

(wink, wink) haha

[renots]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by renots:
WHo is dis visualMAN person? That doesnt even make no sence at all.

State your party affiliation, and state. So i know where your comming from.

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I guess its a free country (STILL) so you don't have to answer that visualMAN. I am still interested to know as it seems you support totalitarian leaning regimes as long as they are run by the people with the right (or the left) labels. Are you a communist from Cuba?

And what is wrong with having too much free time? This is America, right? Looking back at 20th century history it was people with names like Hitler, Stalin, and Mao (http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Forum/1502/govt.jpg) who didn't appreciate 'workers' taking off time from work to think and shoot the sh!t. Maybe you should make use of of your 'free' time to read up on some history and perhaps receive some insight.

Or you can do what I suspect you are already doing, open up 5 anonymous accounts at slashdot, and moderate whatever tripe you desire up to the top, so you can be a self proclaimed ubergeek. You da Man, you da Man, visualMan

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[renots]

The WTO (http://zmag.org/ZSustainers/ZDaily/2000-05/30chomsky.htm) needs to go.

[renots]

Democrats, 'party of the people', don't seem to want to hear (http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=9618) from them much while the LAPD continues to do their best to emulate (http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=9616) peace officers [NOT]



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[CuriousGeorge157]

Renots
I am glad u agree with me on this one. I think that the WTO is terrible. The effect of their power is devesting to underdeveloped countries.

[renots]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by renots:
Speaking of Occidental, Al Gore had better get a clue before he loses his status as 'patron saint of the environment'.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

whoops, looks like he already lost it (http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=9617)

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[renots]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by visualMAN:
I remeber the story when JFK and RObert Kennedy (democrat)helped get Martin Luther King Jr out of jail for fighting for the civil rights for blacks and minorities.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

visualMAN, I'm thinking you have as much color as the top 3 Republican Party donors, which is to say NONE

You aint foolin anyone

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[visualMAN]

What you dont believe it, go write a email to senator kennedy or to jfk presidential library and they will verify it.

We have reached the New Frontier, but we still need to live the American Dream, and fight for civil rights.

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[renots]

http://www.honkworm.com/siliconites1.htm

[visualMAN]

Lets make this official..!~!~!~!~!

State your name: Visualman

Where you representing: Weft Coast (Left Coast - the Democratic COast_)

Im goin to let you know, Im the Elite, im the Great when I Create, Los Angeles-California.

Enough said."Ride or Die; You talk it, I live it"

+ Just a little flow to respond to renots 6 messages. Sorry I couldnt respond to your lame comments, I have better things to do; I was busy mackin and talkin to girls, watchin the DNC convention, having a social life something that you dont have Renots apparently. So Renots dont even try to clown +

[renots]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by visualMAN:
I was busy mackin and talkin to girls, watchin the DNC convention<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Riiiight

Good to see you checked out those two books I recommended earlier.

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[renots]

How about a Truce visualMAN ?

I'll respect your right to be if you respect mine.

It's a crazy enough world out there that I would rather have more Friends than enemies

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[renots]

Al Gore on Drugs (http://www.motherjones.com/reality_check/goredrugs.html)

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[maggiebirdie]

Reagan is the greatest! He is the only pres I have seen with any sense. Although I am only 19...however the pres has little to do with the economy. It makes me sick the way Clinton takes credit for what the american people have accomplished!! The economy is not improved by one person!! It's ridiculous!!!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by visualMAN:
In my opinion the economy is doing well rite now. Most definately better than Reagon and Bush's year while in office.

If Bush gets elected I predict their will be a recession, just as his fathers' presidentcy. Bush will build up the military unneccessarily, probably go into a war to test out military. Invest in the social securrity that is a good idea, but lets be real 70% or more of the population does not know how to invest.

Chaney will make the comands and decisions, as Bush just kicks back and smiles. Also Chaney's health is a major factor, w/ 3 heartattacks, come on now if he dies in office because of health reason their will be a huge crisis in the US. I believe Bush is not ready yet to Govern this nation yet. I think McCain was a better person to run for the Republican party. But the main pepole from the Rep. party and press already written him off from day 1.

I know who David Duke is going to vote for, hmm maybe Bush.. haha haha
And whats up w/ Bush making a fun of Catholics when he made a visit at the university.(thats messed up yo!!)

How many people are you going to kill George W. Bush while in office @ TExas.
Maybe its a good idea that Bush is leaving Texas to save more innocent souls and lives. =)


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[maggiebirdie]

He does sell secrets to the chinese genius!!!!!!!!!!!! and 56 people from his administration have died "mysteriously" or "committed suicide"...some of which were going to testify because of whitewater...interesting... <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by renots:
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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[maggiebirdie]

Al Gore doesn't have any points or a mind of his own. He says whatever people want to hear at the time and he kisses clinton's butt. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by renots:
Speaking of Occidental, Al Gore had better get a clue before he loses his status as 'patron saint of the environment'.
http://www.sfbg.com/News/34/45/45nfdnc.html

Crashing the party
(Or: Y2GO2D2KLA)

By Daniel Zoll

...

When an angry army of protesters descends on the Democratic National Convention in Los Angeles Aug. 14, members of Colombia's indigenous U'wa tribe will be leading the way.

It's a perfect expression of how globalization – so aggressively fast-tracked by Democratic nominee Al Gore – is inspiring far-flung movements to get connected.

The U'wa have been fighting L.A.-based Occidental Petroleum's environmentally destructive plans to drill in their sacred homeland, and they vow to commit mass suicide if it goes through. Occidental's partner in the project, Royal Dutch/Shell, has pulled out, citing human rights and public relations concerns.

Al Gore, whose father was a vice president and board member of Occidental, owns at least $500,000 in the company's stock. Environmentalists have lobbied Gore to divest or to pressure Occidental to abandon the project.

Instead, as the Nation reports, the Clinton administration "has been quietly helping the company – a generous donor to the Democrats in recent years – to win support in Colombia for its drilling plans."

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Good thing Al invented the internet so at least we fix things up

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[maggiebirdie]

argh!! are you people liberal or what? Sure seems like it. Liberalism is so cheesy and hyprocritical. They believe whatever they hear. At least Bush HAS some beliefs and sticks to them. God only knows what Gore believes...he just wants to get elected. He has a phoney way of acting and lack of communication skills. Did I mention I was republican?? and I am originally from San Diego and only 19 years old, haha http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/smile.gif

[renots]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by maggiebirdie:
[B The economy is not improved by one person!! It's ridiculous!!! [/B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Correct, and neither should one person try to take credit for leading the economy in the right direction(Alan Greenspan anyone?)

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[renots]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by maggiebirdie:
argh!! are you people liberal or what? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I enjoy criticizing each side equally.

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[renots]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/08/26/ED66216.DTL

Letters to the Editor

AL GORE OFFERS `PIE IN THE SKY'

Editor -- I watched Al Gore's acceptance speech and some of the personal background that preceded it. I can accept that Al is a decent family guy and I can live with the way he delivers his message. What I have a real problem with is the message itself.

I don't need Al Gore to fight for me in Washington -- I'd really rather do it myself and I think most Americans would, too. What I do need is to get government off my back. Mr. Gore seems to have a ``pie in the sky'' program for just about everything. He's using big business and the rich as a scapegoat when the real problem is with government.

The ``special interests'' one needs to worry about were well represented in the Staples Center.

Mr. Gore, go home, take the wife to a movie, check out the daughter's boyfriend, go fishing, and let George do it. Politics is making you crazy.

DICK CHRISTIAN

San Francisco

...

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[renots]

Al Gore for DCI, that's what I say

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[maggiebirdie]

Ahhhhhhh I have this sick feeling Gore is going to win. People just buy into the crap the media feeds them. And how can they say Leiberman (spelling?) is a moral man?? He supports partial birth abortion!! (Sigh)

[renots]

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=9706

LOYAL OPPOSITION: Gore's Class Warfare, or the GOP's?

by David Corn

No sooner had Al Gore's convention speech been dubbed "populist" -- because he assailed "powerful forces and powerful interests" -- was he accused of engaging in class warfare.

Anytime a politician suggests that monied interests are screwing consumers and citizens and that an appropriate response is anger and resistance, he or she is whacked for being divisive, backward-looking, and politically naive.

In The Wall Street Journal, Peggy Noonan huffed, "Gore's speech all but announced the party was returning to habits and assumptions that were not just pre-Clinton but pre-Carter." (Were HMOs and hyper-inflating drug prices -- two Gore targets -- a problem in the pre-Carter years?)

Fred Barnes opined, "Rather than extol the private sector for producing this great prosperity we're having in this country, he demonized the private sector. At one point in his speech, Gore sounded like Fox Mulder from the X-Files, talking about powerful forces and powerful interests." (Actually, Gore only blasted a few sectors, mainly Big Oil, Big Tobacco, HMOs, and pharmaceutical companies. He left unmentioned the telecom biggies, the energy monopolies, Big Ag, the securities industry, and military contractors, among others.)

Morton Kondracke cracked, "Unless George W. Bush absolutely blows it and collapses in the debates this fall, I think we have witnessed Al Gore kicking away the presidential election. He was emphasizing the 1890s, 1930s populism. He handed the entire political center of the country to George Bush."

George Will snorted, "He said because of our heroic labors in the vineyards for eight years, everyone's doing splendidly, except for the fact that everyone is oppressed by the mighty and the powerful and the special interests. And I'd wish he'd make up his mind."

Republican spokesman Cliff May declared, "People don't want somebody doing what Al Gore is doing which is this class warfare -- pitting one group against another -- I don't think Americans are in the mood for it."

Ari Fleischer, a spokesman for George W. Bush, remarked, "Class-warfare language...sends a signal to the center, to the key ticket-splitters who do go back and forth later, that he's more a divider than uniter. And that's going to be a little problem for him down the road."

Days after the speech, the Bush campaign zapped out a press release -- headlined "Americans won't agree with Al Gore's class warfare" -- which contained nothing but a column written by Cokie and Steven Roberts. The duo approvingly quoted Al From, the chairman of the corporate-funded Democratic Leadership Council, who complained about Gore's tack: "A redistributionist appeal doesn't work anymore. This is a different country.

Attacking oil companies and pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies will not win elections, I guarantee you." (It certainly won't impress the corporate lobbyists who finance the DLC.)

The Roberts team also cited an unnamed strategist "close to the White House" who groused, "Once you have a class warfare message, you can't appeal to the upper middle class. Democrats have to be the party of the new economy." The swing vote in this election, the Roberts argued, will be "wired workers" and an attack against "Big Money" does not make sense to these voters.

Poor Gore. He offers the most tepid populism -- who's on the side of oil companies, drug manufacturers, and HMOs? -- and he's branded and assailed as a modern-day William Jennings Bryan.

Gore's mild-mannered populism -- let's see if he even sticks with it -- has not pittied one group against another; he has merely maintained that a few interests have more than their fair share of power in this political system. Who doesn't believe that? Look at the assumptions underlying the arguments of the anti-populists. They presume that only factory lugs are pissed off at HMOs, that in a time of proclaimed prosperity voters don't give a damn about industries that rip them off and corrupt the workings of government, that when conventional economic indicators are strong there are no significant economic conflicts, that calling for powerful corporate interests to be held accountable and not granted special influence is equivalent to advocating wealth redistribution, and that only citizens self-identified as liberals care about the excesses of corporate power. Even Silicon Valley yupsters enjoying the dot-com gold rush (as much as it still exists) have to contend with pain-in-the-ass health care companies, have to fill up their SUVs, and have to worry about their elderly parents' prescription drug bills.


The wonderful wired economy has not led to wider health care coverage. Nor has the Info Age produced health care security for elderly Americans who cannot afford medications.

Many are taking bus trips to Canada to buy cheaper drugs there. Only in America, as Joe Lieberman might say.

The most profound mis-assumption made by the anti-populists is that class warfare only flows from bottom to top. What do you call it when corporate lobbyists win legislative favors that lessen the tax bills of their patrons and thereby increase the burdens of other taxpayers? If not "class warfare," then "corporate warfare." Corporations lobby for trade agreements that lead to factory closings in the United States. Is that not an assault on working-class citizens? What about corporations that finance congressional campaigns and then persuade Congress to block workplace safety and environmental standards? They are obviously placing their own interests ahead of the health of workers and consumers.

Sounds like class warfare to me.

Tax policy is an area rife with silent class warfare. A few weeks ago, the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a nonprofit outfit in Washington, released a report on the $951 billion in tax cuts passed this year by the Republican-led Congress. The group found that 61.8 percent of the ten-year give-backs would go to the top 10 percent of taxpayers -- those who make over $92,500. (Half would go to the top 5 percent -- those bagging $130,000 or more a year.)

This is the dreaded redistribution of wealth the anti-populists decry -- but in the other direction. And it's not that the wealthier are getting more because they send more taxes to Washington. "The tax cuts," the Center notes, "would not simply be provided in proportion to taxes paid; the share of the tax cuts going to high-income taxpayers would exceed the share of federal taxes this group pays.

Moreover, the notion that tax cuts should simply mirror the distribution of tax burdens is a curious one. It implies that if income disparities widen and a disproportionate share of the income gains from economic growth goes to high-income individuals, causing the share of taxes that group pays to rise, high-income individuals should be made still better off by being given a large and increasing share of any tax cuts enacted."

Aiding the rich disproportionately would be bad enough, but these tax cuts also consume much of the surplus available for other matters that largely benefit middle- and low-income Americans. "The current Congressional path of passing one tax cut after another, with the big tax-cut dollars geared to affluent individuals, leaves no room for any other siginificant policy initiative if a policy course is followed that is consistent with fiscal prudence," the Center concludes. "This raises the question: with 44 million Americans lacking health insurance, a child poverty rate far above that of Canada and western Europe, lack of Medicare coverage for prescription drug[I personally people should watch what they eat and take care of their own personal well-being; access to healthier foods would be much more beneficial for the elderly and disabled than toxic patents] and catastrophic health care costs, serious deficiencies in our education system (especially in the big cities), a

[reg]

[renots]

from the Progressive

Business Week Quakes (http://www.progressive.org/wx090500.htm)

The September 11 cover story of Business Week is entitled:

"Too Much Corporate Power?"

Appearing apoplectic, the magazine says in its subhead:

"Even though Big Business helped create unprecedented prosperity, most Americans think corporations have excessive influence over their lives. Now, it's become a hot political issue.

What's going on?"

The answer is: "People are grumbling about what they see as business' disregard for their safety, the norms of equity, and the absence of responsibility," the magazine said in its editorial in the same issue.

Business Week commissioned a poll that showed 72% of Americans say "business has too much power over too many aspects of American life."

And 74 percent say "big companies have too much political influence." (Only 5 percent said big companies have "too little" influence.[gee,maybe the top 5%])

The editorialists were alarmed: "Listen up, Corporate America. The American people are having a most serious discussion about your role in their lives."

And it's not just the kids: "Unlike the sixties, when business bashing was part of a youthful rebellion, neopopulism today cuts across many demographic and age groups." The bottom line:

"Corporate America, ignore these trends at your peril. Take steps to counter the backlash now."

When Business Week quakes, it's a clear sign that the popular forces arrayed against corporate power are beginning to hit their mark.

Footnote: Union organizers, take heed: "An astonishing forty million employees say they would vote in a union today if given the chance, double the number of a decade ago," Business Week also said, citing a study by Peter D. Hart Research Associates.

That's good news this Labor Day.

--Matthew Rothschild

[renots]

Economy will do just fine as long as they don't add any new Taxes or Burdensome regulations

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