Speeding ticket evasion poll

[InfiniteNothing]

How do you evade the cops?

[Merlin]

I try not to speed on unfamiliar roads. The roads I know I usually have a pretty good idea where the speed traps are and act accordingly.

[Jihforce]

I just try to use my best judgement of any particular situation. Its gotten me off a few times. However, the one moment that i decided not to pay attention, BAM! cop catches me. :(

[p3rsian]

where is the option ... speed and fight it

[InfiniteNothing]

where is the option ... speed and fight it Mojo

[usedillusion]

mojo is always wearing those cleavage-bearing blouses anyway. that always "gets him off" the hook with the cops.

[DarkFury]

Personally, I just think that if you use a radar detector and a bunch of COMMON SENSE, you can avoid most of those problems.

For the most part... unless you are driving like an IDIOT way out in the open with no one around you, then you probably need to get popped just to teach you a lessen.

However if you speed with common sense, paying attention to your surroundings and having some notification of there being something "out there" then you should be OK. This has worked for me personally.

[revil]

When I was in high school, I used my car to evade the cops. none of this pansy techo bullsh*t. Now, I realize how stupid and reckless I was and now I just use common sense.

[bachviet]

I usually drive at speed limit. When I speed (not more than 10 mph over the speed limit), I just watch out for cops and follow a pack.

[ray]

How do I evade the cops? By flashing my gang sign and then pulling a 9mm on them...

[Leon]

I donate $15/year to my local police department which gives me a nifty little sticker. Works like a charm.

[Aristo]

I donate $15/year to my local police department which gives me a nifty little sticker. Works like a charm.

I got one of those stickers too but it didn't work the magic last time I was stopped.

[billxp]

When I speed (not more than 10 mph over the speed limit)
Thats NOT speeding. :rolleyes:

[Bires]

I just make sure that I'm not the fastest car on the highway.

[Burzhui]

Personally, I just think that if you use a radar detector and a bunch of COMMON SENSE, you can avoid most of those problems.

For the most part... unless you are driving like an IDIOT way out in the open with no one around you, then you probably need to get popped just to teach you a lessen.

However if you speed with common sense, paying attention to your surroundings and having some notification of there being something "out there" then you should be OK. This has worked for me personally.

everything i wanted to say he already said

[bachviet]

Thats NOT speeding. :rolleyes:
I had been pulled over before for going btw 60-65 mph on a 55 mph freeway (22W). :shrug:

Nowaday cops would pull you over for anything because they need $$$.

[Crapbox]

THey get $$$ for each ticket they hand out?

[bachviet]

THey get $$$ for each ticket they hand out?
Part of the fine goes to the city thus creates more revenue.

[billxp]

Part of the fine goes to the city thus creates more revenue.
Thats right people its not really about the safety.... Its all about the money.

Hell in NY you get a speeder you always fight it. Its in the towns best interest to actually plead it down because the state gets most of the money from a speeding ticket but if its a equipment violation the town gets most.

This is of course in a real court. This excludes NYC and I believe Rochester and maybe Albany. Those ticket courts are really dmv offices or something like that.

[Merlin]

Personally, I just think that if you use a radar detector and a bunch of COMMON SENSE, you can avoid most of those problems.

For the most part... unless you are driving like an IDIOT way out in the open with no one around you, then you probably need to get popped just to teach you a lessen.

However if you speed with common sense, paying attention to your surroundings and having some notification of there being something "out there" then you should be OK. This has worked for me personally.

For the most part that is true but in some areas they set up speed traps. And they do call them traps fro a reason

[nickel]

i know where some of them sit and make sure i am less than 10 mi. over the speed limit when i go by.
and the times i have been stopped i try to sweet talk out of it. i don't care if anyone thinks that sucks, it saves me a ticket.
two summers ago i got stopped 3 times in a 2 month period and i got out of all of them just by apologizing over and over, or saying i really couldn't afford a ticket, etc.

tell them a story, like your pet just died and you weren't paying attention and you know it's wrong, but could you please have another chance.
they are people, too, and sometimes have a heart.

so, am i ruthless?

[Bires]

Thats right people its not really about the safety.... Its all about the money.

Come on. That's not true. It IS about safety. The $ part of the fines just happens to be a pleasant side effect.

[InfiniteNothing]

Come on. That's not true. It IS about safety. The $ part of the fines just happens to be a pleasant side effect.

They slow people down by being on the road. How does a speed trap make people slow down? They pull people over because it looks good on their resume/monthy evals.


i know where some of them sit and make sure i am less than 10 mi. over the speed limit when i go by.
and the times i have been stopped i try to sweet talk out of it. i don't care if anyone thinks that sucks, it saves me a ticket.
two summers ago i got stopped 3 times in a 2 month period and i got out of all of them just by apologizing over and over, or saying i really couldn't afford a ticket, etc.

tell them a story, like your pet just died and you weren't paying attention and you know it's wrong, but could you please have another chance.
they are people, too, and sometimes have a heart.

so, am i ruthless?

I heard saying sorry is a bad idea because then the cop has some amo to use agaisnt you in in court.

[Bires]

They slow people down by being on the road. How does a speed trap make people slow down? They pull people over because it looks good on their resume/monthy evals.

I have a few friends that are patrol cops here in Henderson. The quota/resume/keeping track of fines thing is a myth. If their supervisor thought they were up to something, then he might ask themselves or dispatch to keep track of them, but in normal duties, they don't have their citations or responses monitored.

[cheapie]

i stay about 12 above the limit, and try not to be the rabbit.

[gear02]

*grumble* *grumble* radar detectors illegal in VA *grumble*

but normally I just follow the flow of traffic. If I want to go faster, I find a car who's going fast and I just follow it. Kinda like a lead blocker :D

[InfiniteNothing]

I have a few friends that are patrol cops here in Henderson. The quota/resume/keeping track of fines thing is a myth. If their supervisor thought they were up to something, then he might ask themselves or dispatch to keep track of them, but in normal duties, they don't have their citations or responses monitored.Are you saying cops don't put in their resumes how many citations and DUIs they catch. You think that if a cop pulled over very few people (on a slow night) their bosses might not wonder why they are being employed at all. I have a relative who is CHP I know that if it's the end of the month, they start busting people for vanity lights on their licence plates. I'll agree with you that there are no quotas though.

Again Bires, if it's about the safety, then why the traps


*grumble* *grumble* radar detectors illegal in VA *grumble*

but normally I just follow the flow of traffic. If I want to go faster, I find a car who's going fast and I just follow it. Kinda like a lead blocker :DWhat makes you think that the cop won't get you? You are the easier grab.

[DaFunkyUnit]

when you see a CHP cruising (or speeding, rather) down the freeway, do you:

a) drive the speed limit
b) drive along with the CHP
c) drive along with everyone else
d) try to beat the CHP

?

i usually just follow the traffic and go along with them. They all inevitably slow down anyways. Honestly, CHPs create more traffic rather than help by enforcing "safety".

[InfiniteNothing]

when you see a CHP cruising (or speeding, rather) down the freeway, do you:

a) drive the speed limit
b) drive along with the CHP
c) drive along with everyone else
d) try to beat the CHP

?

i usually just follow the traffic and go along with them. They all inevitably slow down anyways. Honestly, CHPs create more traffic rather than help by enforcing "safety".
Stay with traffic. Blending in is the order of the day.

[ray]

I speed past the CHP while giving them the bird.

[psycho-]

I've raced a border patrol car once. He was willing to push harder, so I had to follow

[Jihforce]

I've raced a border patrol car once. He was willing to push harder, so I had to follow
Border patrol can't give you a ticket you know. Also, added advantage, he can't get a speeding ticket, you can.

[WhiskeyPapa]

I just drive the speed limit. 55 in a 55 zone, 30 in a 30 zone, etc. That's easy to do in my sparsely populated area. However, when I drive somewhere with dense traffic, like Chicago, I just move along with the flow, since it would be more dangerous to try to maintain the legal speed limit.

[nickel]

I've raced a border patrol car once. He was willing to push harder, so I had to follow
why were you racing him?

*alerts my brother* :P

[djsusm]

I usually use common sense when i speed, and i've only gotten one ticket - and that was from a cop in an unmarked bright red brand new camaro.

[billxp]

I'll agree with you that there are no quotas though.
Here in NYC they call them productivity standards. :)

Face it tickets are a revenue generating machine for most cities.

[bachviet]

I have a few friends that are patrol cops here in Henderson. The quota/resume/keeping track of fines thing is a myth. If their supervisor thought they were up to something, then he might ask themselves or dispatch to keep track of them, but in normal duties, they don't have their citations or responses monitored.
Cops don't have "official quota" on tickets but how do cops explain of what they still have to do something while on patrol. They can't just come back empty without any incidents. Traffic cops espcially those on motocycles have nothing to do except writing tickets.

[Mike_N_Ike]

Cops don't have "official quota" on tickets but how do cops explain of what they still have to do something while on patrol. They can't just come back empty without any incidents. Traffic cops espcially those on motocycles have nothing to do except writing tickets.
Yeah, they may not have an explicit number of tickets to write each day/week/month, but you can be sure that they are held accountable for writing "enough" tickets one way or another.

[Kevster]

I had a big project in the Lompoc/Santa Maria area of California and I got 2 speeding tickets within 3 months in that area by the CHP. One of them was for going 4 mph over the speed limit (I was going downhill with my cruise control on and it wasn't compensating well). The other one I deserved because I was late for a meeting. After that, I got a radar detector and I never have had another one since. I had to replace the detector when my old one got stolen, but I've done as DF says above and I've been clean for 7 years now.

[Mungo]

Come on. That's not true. It IS about safety. The $ part of the fines just happens to be a pleasant side effect.

If it's about safety, then whey do they have unmarked patrol cars? Usually when people see a patrol vehicle they will automatically slow down. It's definitely about the $$$. Also it has been proven that going with the flow of traffic is safer then going slower than it & everyone passing or going around you. Which in the state of CA the flow of traffic is between 5 - 10 MPH over the speed limit.

[Yossarian]

here in pa(and most other places on the highway that i've noticed) i can do 75 in a 65 and not get ticketed, if i'm not dodging and weaving across lanes. that said i raceed against some audi last time i drove on the interstate and we passed a cop doing 95, nothing.

[InfiniteNothing]

here in pa(and most other places on the highway that i've noticed) i can do 75 in a 65 and not get ticketed, if i'm not dodging and weaving across lanes. that said i raceed against some audi last time i drove on the interstate and we passed a cop doing 95, nothing.What were you doing racing against an Audi and going 95? Are you sure he was racing?

[Jeffbx]

Come on. That's not true. It IS about safety. The $ part of the fines just happens to be a pleasant side effect.

C'mon - you don't really believe that, do you? Other than studies done by the insurance industry, there has been NO proven correlation between speed & traffic accidents. As a matter of fact, in some instances (http://www.investigatemagazine.com/july00speed.htm) the correlation has been that higher speeds are safer!

Here are a few articles to have a look at:

http://www.ibiblio.org/rdu/speedsci.html
http://www.safespeed.org.uk/s.p.e.e.d.html
http://www.dot.state.oh.us/dist3/planning/Traffic/speed_kills.asp
http://jrcm.faithweb.com/religion/i_speed_kills.html
http://www.cybertrucker.co.uk/speed.htm

It goes on & on.... I've come to the conclusion that speeding tickets have only two purposes:

1 - Revenue generator for local police & community (from ticket & court fines)
2 - Revenue generator for car insurance companies (from increased rates for people who get caught speeding).

That's it! It's not a safety issue at all. Catching people for reckless driving - now that's a safety issue. Weaving, racing, tailgaiting, not paying attention - those are reckless activities. Speeding in and of itself is not dangerous. Going too fast in a residental zone? That's reckless. Too fast on an icy road? Also reckless. Driving 80 in a 70MPH zone? Not reckless.

We'd be so much better off if we could just ban 'speeding' violations, and limit traffic stops to reckless activities.

Simply going faster than the posted limit is not unsafe, but it's a reason for the police & insruance companies to make some $$ off of you.

[Mike_N_Ike]

Doubt I could agree more.

Where were you when we were arguing about this a couple months ago...