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Well, just finished my heat of the tournament, and I have to say that it was the worst server I've played on in quite some time. Anytime that college LAN pings worse than my modem at home, you know there's a problem.
I realize that the server's on the west coast (as I'm on the east coast) and that may be the cause of the problem (and indeed, the winner of my heat was the only player in it with a decent ping), but maybe next time the server should be in the middle of the country so it's a more equal chance for everyone.
I appreciate what was attempted with the tourney, something to give back to the community and all that.. but truthfully, the random drawing was a better test of quake skill =P
Possibly stick to something less latency-intensive next time, like a starcraft tourney?
02-12-2000, 06:09 PM
Hey, it wasn't THAT bad...I'm usually used to LAN ping. At first, it thought it was gonna be bad, since the second I joind the server, I was seeing red in the lagmeter (the entire box was a red color). Lots of red. Then, taking a look at my ping, it was ranging from ~350-500. However, I hardly noticed it(???) and even got a few "humiliation" awards http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/smile.gif
02-12-2000, 06:24 PM
Yeah, the ping could have been better, but I didn't think the server was bad. I noticed no packet loss, and the opponents were never jumping and jerking around the screen like some crappy servers.
I am used to LAN ping as well, but the ~150 I had was still playable, especially considering that everyone else had pretty much the same ping.
I just hope that no one I play against tomorrow has like a <60 ping, that would be hard to compete against.
02-12-2000, 07:27 PM
I will have to agree with Mo. I was there 3 - 5 mins early to do a warmup and test the server, at the time there were 3 people on the server, and at warmup I felt ok besides the high ping. Match time when people were playing it seemed as though the latancy increased another 50 ms atleast. The tourney is not a good representation of skill, just of who has the less ping. I had a 180 - 200 ping and I am used to playing with 0 - 60 ping I admit. I would revert from "skill" to "ping" in the way this tournament has gone. Then again it is all fun and games anyhow and may the person with the best skill *coughpingcough* win. In addition a SC tourney would be something of interest. Either way thanks again to everyone who had a say / participation / hand into the tourney it was atleast something out of the ordinary to play in. Yes people are going to complain / moan / cry about their ping. It's a rule of the Quake series. =P
[This message has been edited by DeathLok (edited 02-12-2000).]
The real problem was that ping wasnt consistent and thus was impossible to adjust to.. it fluctuated from the very lowest of 150 for a second or to all the way up to 350-400. I've seriously had better games on my home 56k modem than I had using an ethernet connection for this tourney, and even most servers in california I get a 150 ping to with my ethernet connection from Maryland, not 300 like this one.
Contributing to the problem was the chosen map. The layout of that map was designed so that the RL would be difficult to get and thus people would have to fight using other weapons. This works fine on LAN or with even pings, but it just magnified the problems here because the difference between high and low ping on using a RL (which is fine to use with a 300 ping) is much different from using say a SSG (which is pure dumb luck with a high ping).
02-12-2000, 07:39 PM
Hey MO, i was in your heat too. I feel for you. I am on cable modem and had 180 ping to the server as well. Luckily advanced, cause i only lost 1st place by 5 kills to that lpb. He had nerve enough to say "owned" after the match when he had 75 ping to our 180+. Just gota deal with it man. http://www.gotapex.com/ubb/frown.gif Ill do my best to hold up next round with the SLEW of lpbs cause i know they will be there. I got nothing to lose... heheh.
02-12-2000, 08:04 PM
I just got finished Heat 12...there were 4 playe...I was pinging at 360-410 which is much higher than my usual of 220-260, even though I am on the east coast...the other three players were pinging in the 110-130 range which indicates to me that they were on cables...these pings were way too high for a cable and much too low for a dialup...the heat ended at 40 frags...another player and myself were tied for second with 20 frags each, but, I was told I would not advance because I died more than the player I was tied with...so it's over and chalk up another win for the LPBs...(and next time can we get a server with a little better connectivity...?)
02-12-2000, 08:16 PM
Heat 13, 4 out our 6 guys had sub150 pings, 3 of us between 90 and 110. So I guess we had a decent collection of low ping guys.
BTW, congrat Hellfire. I hope I don't fight you again in the later rounds.
02-12-2000, 09:22 PM
Well, when I fought in Heat 5, and I admit the lag was bad on my cable modem (200-350 ping), but I still got second place. The leader (of course) had a ping of about 60. Skill over ping still rules, though.
02-12-2000, 09:57 PM
The winner in my game was maybe 5ms ping lower than mine.. not too much. We finished 40 to 39.
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02-12-2000, 10:57 PM
I agree guys next time we will try and find a server in the middle of the country, not because of any fault on the servers side just because that might help even the playing field a bit. I must say though that I for one am very grateful for Fuz hosting and no matter what your beef about ping may be , ask yourself this, did you pay any money and did it give you something to get excited about(or look forward too). I am working on an UT contest in the near future hope to see ya there.
02-13-2000, 12:55 AM
Ok. I hate when ppl whine and say that it isnt fair cuz some guy had a 70 ping when the person whining has a 180. I played on my cablemodem and prolly had a 70 ping. And I've played before with 280 pings and still had tons of fun. The point is, your ping doesnt matter unless your at like 350+. THEN you can complain, but not when your at 180. I used to dream of 180 when I was on normal modem. BTW it doesnt matter where in the country the server is. I'm on EST and I had no problem except that someone was nuking (for the lamer that means sending pings or bad packets until the connection is broken) my computer while I was playing. So all in all I think it was fair. Did kinda suck that I only played against 1 other person. But I still had fun.
02-14-2000, 02:25 AM
To add to my last reply, I played in the semifinals with a 200-300 ping (it varied and stayed usually around 240) and lost at 2nd to last. But you don't see me complaining about pings and **** do you? NO. So stop the crappy whining. Remember that Virus scanners and other stuff (like computer hardware) can cause these problems. It would pause for a couple seconds everyonce in awhile for me and I'm running Win98 with Dual Celeron 400s, 128mb RAM, GeForce and a cablemodem connection (98 isnt bad, dual cuz I'm waiting for W2k, and don't even start saying **** about celerons).
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