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p3rsian

10-05-2004, 10:05 AM

hey ... whats up my fans :wavey2:

lol.. anyways i went to my school counsler yesteday and im planning to transfer from community college to another place next fall and need to submit applications. well the counsler said i should apply to both san diego state and cal state LA .
im still thinkin about what i should do here. i have heard from alot of people that san diego state is very crowded and ppl usually might not be able to take the classes they want , but on the other side i really wanna get outta SD and goto LA for a couple reasons.
1- alot of persian ppl there
2- traffic :P - and not eveyrthing closes at 8pm
and i really wanna experince the complete independent life before i goto iran or whatever.

so im thinking for undergrad goin to cal state LA , and after 2 years for my graduate school goto san diego state which has an excellent business school..

any comments would be appreciated

bachviet

10-05-2004, 10:07 AM

What's your major anyway?

p3rsian

10-05-2004, 10:30 AM

What's your major anyway?
oops ... business admin

ufcrusher

10-05-2004, 11:46 AM

Honestly, you should go to whatever the best school is that you can get into. School names and ranks all are taken into account by everyone once you graduate.

Think about it, would you hire a Harvard graduate, a SDSU graduate, or a University of Deleware graduate if all had a 3.4 gpa with a business degree?

Unless one of the schools has special meaning to you, you are going to go for the Harvard grad. Why? Simply because the name implies a more rigorous course of study and carries more weight.

If the schools are all on par with each other, then you take into account the location and decide on such criteria.

p3rsian

10-05-2004, 02:00 PM

any one know where i can see a list of ranking of undergraduate business schools

avlena

10-05-2004, 02:43 PM

any one know where i can see a list of ranking of undergraduate business schools

US News & World Report usually has a bunch of rankings. i believe they devote an issue to college rankings every year. Probably just google something like "Business School Rankings" or something.

I agree with the others about goin to a school with a good rep, but if you're going to get a masters degree, then people may put a lot less weight on your ugrad in terms of reputation. so no one's gonna care u went to cal state chico if you got an MBA from Harvard. at least, that's what i'd guess, i couuld be wrong!

remember, there's lots of other schools around LA area too, not just Cal State LA. since previous threads have implied money isn't really a problem for you, have you thought about a nice private school? classes are likely to be smaller, and you'll have a better chance at getting the classes you need cuz you don't have to battle thousands of other students for a spot.

p3rsian

10-05-2004, 03:03 PM

ramazank2

10-05-2004, 03:10 PM

If you want a high persian population you should go to UC Irvine.

molecularfire

10-05-2004, 03:18 PM

Or UCLA

ialsohaveadream

10-05-2004, 03:27 PM

As long as you have solid test scores and undergrad grades, you'll get into a master's program at a decent school. I wouldn't sweat it too much.

bachviet

10-05-2004, 04:23 PM

Cal State Fullerton has pretty good business program.

avlena

10-05-2004, 04:42 PM

just talked with my sis ... said you cant get in a good grad school with a so so undergrad ...
she said whatever i do i should go in a UC system ...
so i guess i should choose uc riverside over calstate LA

tommroow is transfer day gonna go check some stuff and meet with counsler again before applying

i don't know about the business program there, but i don't think UC Riverside is necessarily the highest ranking UC. (trying to phrase it diplomatically so as not to insult any UCR alums out there!). You'd be better off with UCLA or UCI. but if you're looking for more night life and you wanna go to UCI, be prepared to drive. Irvine closes down early, it's a "planned community", which means it's a tad... ummm... well, let's just say there's a reason it's one of the safest cities in California. but, i enjoyed it there. besides, anything u could ever want is w/in an hours drive away, and they had an excellant CS program. don't think they have a ugrad business degree though. you can only minor in mgmt. but the MBA program is supposed to be very high ranking.

here, found this (http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/rankbusiness_brief.php) for ya. should help.

p3rsian

10-05-2004, 05:28 PM

so if you had to choose one of these which one would u

uc riverside
calstate LA

bachviet

10-05-2004, 05:29 PM

so if you had to choose one of these which one would u

uc riverside
calstate LA
Neither

I would either choose UCI or Cal State Fullerton.

p3rsian

10-05-2004, 05:45 PM

Neither

I would either choose UCI or Cal State Fullerton.
i checked those and none have business undergrad programs

http://www.assist.org/web-assist/prompt.do?ia=MESA&ay=04-05

bachviet

10-05-2004, 05:52 PM

I don't know about the site you posted but here is a link:

CSU Fullerton Undergrad Business Administration Program (http://business.fullerton.edu/DegreePrograms/UGprograms/busadm.htm)

ray

10-05-2004, 06:08 PM

UCLA
USC
Pepperdine
UC Berkeley
UC Irvine
Stanford

in no particular order.

brain

10-05-2004, 06:21 PM

UCLA and UCI don't have undergraduate business programs.

p3rsian

10-05-2004, 06:23 PM

i wish there was a site that would rank these undergraduate programs

I don't know about the site you posted but here is a link:

CSU Fullerton Undergrad Business Administration Program (http://business.fullerton.edu/DegreePrograms/UGprograms/busadm.htm)
any info on ranking nationwide or statistics ?

ShawnLee

10-05-2004, 06:26 PM

US News and World Report. I think Avlena already posted it. Read the posts, dude. And yes, CSUF has a business program. You can see them too. They take up the whole old building on the southeast corner.

p3rsian

10-05-2004, 06:46 PM

cheapie

10-05-2004, 07:09 PM

if you're going back to iran nobody's gonna give a rat's a$$ which one you went to. just choose convenience.

p3rsian

10-05-2004, 07:33 PM

if you're going back to iran nobody's gonna give a rat's a$$ which one you went to. just choose convenience.
yea i know but i want to at least be accepted to a graduate school ... :dead:

ShawnLee

10-05-2004, 07:36 PM

Fullerton's program is good, and pretty focused. Good luck with that. If it's just Fullerton people going to your school, call the business program and talk to them yourself.

p3rsian

10-05-2004, 07:57 PM

Fullerton's program is good, and pretty focused. Good luck with that. If it's just Fullerton people going to your school, call the business program and talk to them yourself.
school advisors from the university will be there tommorow ill see what happens... i wanna know like what % of students who get their bachlers are accepted to the grad program

glagic

10-05-2004, 08:05 PM

UCLA and UCI don't have undergraduate business programs.

we sure dont. we have a minor in management and accounting, but thats it for undergrad. we have a graduate school of business.

how about csun? i heard theyre supposed to have a decent business program

hapoo

10-06-2004, 08:01 AM

if you're going back to iran nobody's gonna give a rat's a$$ which one you went to. just choose convenience.

my thought exactly!
What are you going to do with a business degree in iran?? Business/economy is SOO different there that i'm not sure if its going to help you practically, other than the fact that you have a piece of paper with your name on it.

If you want a high persian population you should go to UC Irvine.

Care to point a couple out? I've been here almost two years and i know only a handfull. Being in an engineering major there are practically no persians here. They're probably all in pre-med classes. Unfortunately persians are WAY too unorganized to have some kind of club.

avlena

10-06-2004, 10:05 AM

my thought exactly!
What are you going to do with a business degree in iran?? Business/economy is SOO different there that i'm not sure if its going to help you practically, other than the fact that you have a piece of paper with your name on it.

Care to point a couple out? I've been here almost two years and i know only a handfull. Being in an engineering major there are practically no persians here. They're probably all in pre-med classes. Unfortunately persians are WAY too unorganized to have some kind of club.

actually, when i was an ICS major, i knew quite a number of persians. and saw quite a few around campus as well. :shrug:

btw, do u know what business/economy in iran is like personally, or are you just making broad sweeping comments?

hapoo

10-06-2004, 10:24 AM

btw, do u know what business/economy in iran is like personally, or are you just making broad sweeping comments?

Some fundamentals will work no matter where you are, but i know enough to know that the problems you have to deal with over there are different. For example, since its a growing economy, competition isn't as big a deal as actually getting the product out to market or being able to get the raw products to create your product.

ramazank2

10-06-2004, 10:32 AM

Care to point a couple out? I've been here almost two years and i know only a handfull. Being in an engineering major there are practically no persians here. They're probably all in pre-med classes. Unfortunately persians are WAY too unorganized to have some kind of club.

Just spend a few moments in wholesome choice on Culver and Michelson and you will see alot.

Or go to the park on culver and university on persian new year and you will be overwelmed.

There is a club:
http://search.dos.uci.edu/clubs/FMPro?-db=clubbase.fmp&-format=detail.html&-lay=weblayout&-sortfield=organization&Reg%20Status=REGISTERED&-max=15&-recid=36069&-find=

hapoo

10-06-2004, 10:48 AM

Just spend a few moments in wholesome choice on Culver and Michelson and you will see alot.

Or go to the park on culver and university on persian new year and you will be overwelmed.

There is a club:
http://search.dos.uci.edu/clubs/FMPro?-db=clubbase.fmp&-format=detail.html&-lay=weblayout&-sortfield=organization&Reg%20Status=REGISTERED&-max=15&-recid=36069&-find=

cool, they started another club... I give it 2 quarters :P
Yeah, wholesome choice is always full of persians. Well, Irvine in general. Just cant seem to run into any on campus for some reason.

p3rsian

10-06-2004, 11:45 AM

my thought exactly!
What are you going to do with a business degree in iran?? Business/economy is SOO different there that i'm not sure if its going to help you practically, other than the fact that you have a piece of paper with your name on it.
.
only reason which i care a little where i get it from is that if for somereason my plans dont work' out in iran , i would like to at least be able to get a job with an MBA degree probally in dubai or maybe in the states

hapoo

10-06-2004, 12:29 PM

Makes sense, always good to have a backup plan. Plus ya gotta have at least SOME kind of degree if your going to live there.

Mike_N_Ike

10-06-2004, 01:47 PM

hapoo

10-06-2004, 02:02 PM

Most of the Iranians I know at UCI are in Bio. I'm in ICS, which is a neighbor of Engineering and I don't run into too many there either.

speaking of which, we should have a Gotapex/UCI meeting. Theres a couple of us here.

ramazank2

10-06-2004, 03:23 PM

We should do lunch.

Mike_N_Ike

10-06-2004, 03:36 PM

speaking of which, we should have a Gotapex/UCI meeting. Theres a couple of us here.
:thumb:
Yeah we should - that'd be fun.

BrewMaster

10-06-2004, 03:56 PM

the idea at UCLA is that undergrad business programs don't teach you squat so they want you to get a degree in something else and then go to business grad school.

hapoo

10-06-2004, 04:03 PM

How about tomorrow guys?

p3rsian

10-06-2004, 04:39 PM

ok guys so here are the schools im applying too in order which i wanna goto
1- CSUF (spoke with them today)
2- Webster University (private)
3- UCR
4- CSU LA

Mike_N_Ike

10-06-2004, 07:31 PM

How about tomorrow guys?
If you guys are down, lemme know - tomorrow is good for me.

ramazank2

10-06-2004, 08:31 PM

I think we (hapoo) should make a real thread so we can get all the UCI people. I cant make it till next tuesday. Already have lunch plans. If you do get a few people I may be willing to cancel my plans for tomorrow.

I would go to UCR if I were you. They have a business school and when I went there as an undergrad many people chose to go there over some pretty good schools.

glagic

10-06-2004, 08:53 PM

oOOo..uci meet. let me know when it is. ill see if i can make it

p3rsian

10-06-2004, 10:14 PM

ok ppl ... if i was accepted to all of the following
1- CSUF (spoke with them today)
2- Webster University (private)
3- UCR
4- CSU LA

which one would u goto ?

ShawnLee

10-06-2004, 10:27 PM

Fullerton, but only because I'm an alumnus. So throw my vote out. :P

p3rsian

10-07-2004, 10:54 AM

so live on campus or off campus ? :spock:

bachviet

10-07-2004, 02:19 PM

Off campus

ramazank2

10-07-2004, 03:25 PM

Depends on you. I had a great time in the dorms. It is the easy life. No cooking, you meet lots of people. Some really good times.....

p3rsian

10-07-2004, 10:57 PM

i was just checking some stuff about schools
there is this 1 school that has a quarterly classes .. meaning 4 , 11 week classes.
but seems most of the others have 3

i dont really get this lets say there is like math 1 , math 2 , math 3, math 4
does this mean you can take all 4 maths in 1 year ?
so the school that has the 4 . 11 week classes , one would be able IF they wanted to finish sooner and faster than the other school ?

Mike_N_Ike

10-07-2004, 10:58 PM

Definitely dorm if you have the chance.

bachviet

10-08-2004, 12:53 AM

...

so the school that has the 4 . 11 week classes , one would be able IF they wanted to finish sooner and faster than the other school ?
No since it will take less credits to graduate from a semester (three 18-weeks) school like Fullerton. Also if you transfer from a semester system school to a quater system school, the credit counts as 1.5.

DJjeff1080

10-08-2004, 12:56 AM

I am about half way done with my MBA at CSU Hayward. You want to make sure that the school is AACSB accredited. This is a tough thing for B-schools to get. Most of the decent ones have the western states acredidation, but only 2% have the AACSB one.

In regards to the quarter v. semester question. Personally I love the quarter system. It is tough because your time goes kinda like this week 1 intro, week 5 or 6 midterm, week 8 main project due, and week 11 Final. It seems really busy, but if you can work hard, it is cool. I also like it because you can take a really heavy couse load for a quarter and it only lasts 11 weeks. When I had semesters for the first two years of college I usually had two midterms, a final and a project in addition to homework and quizes. I also got bored with a class after about 12 weeks. Good luck with choosing your school. I would also consider what your emphasis or option will be. Some schools are not the highest rated overall, but they have a highly respected department for a certain option.

Nanoo Nanoo

11-10-2004, 08:27 PM

hapoo

11-11-2004, 02:57 PM

Never realized you were that young, or are you?

From the pictures I thought you're in your mid/late twenties already

BTW Mr. Hapoo, I can't believe your join date on gotapex is 12 months before me.

Can you tell how hard I'm working this month?

I can't believe you have so much free time that you can actually waste it on GotApex. Guess you finally logged off my account.

InfiniteNothing

11-11-2004, 03:00 PM

Never realized you were that young, or are you?

From the pictures I thought you're in your mid/late twenties already

BTW Mr. Hapoo, I can't believe your join date on gotapex is 12 months before me.

Can you tell how hard I'm working this month?

He smokes alot. It makes him look like a 30 year old

hapoo

11-11-2004, 03:18 PM

nope

I am actually at work a lot but most of it is spent mopping around and socializing since I don't have that many patients.

hapoo

11-11-2004, 03:29 PM

This multiple personality stuff really is great isn't it?

hmmm is that how you spell mopping or did I curse myself into a sanitary engineering position

TofuNinja

11-11-2004, 05:02 PM

i don't know about the business program there, but i don't think UC Riverside is necessarily the highest ranking UC. (trying to phrase it diplomatically so as not to insult any UCR alums out there!). You'd be better off with UCLA or UCI.

UCR and Cal are the only two UC that offer BS in Business Admin from what I remember way back when. I know UCLA has a good Business Econ. But things could have changed.

ok ppl ... if i was accepted to all of the following
1- CSUF (spoke with them today)
2- Webster University (private)
3- UCR
4- CSU LA

which one would u goto ?

I'd say either UCR or Fullerton. I am an Alumni of both ;)