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10-28-2004, 06:45 AM
Q: How is the iPod when it comes to random playing ("shuffle")?....
I consider the random play (or "shuffle") function to be the most crucial factor in using a music player. Previous players I've owned (ex: Panasonic MP3 CD Player) have featured poor random playing capabilities. For example, some songs would only play once every 20-30 times I use the machine, and certain songs would repeat 2-3 times in a single 30 minute sitting. I guess if a machine were truly random, this wouldn't be considered unnatural, but when it comes to playing songs, a small amount of logic should be added to the randomness so that certain each song gets an even amount of play time while keeping the order random.
For example winamp's shuffle function makes sure each song is played only once until the whole list is exhausted. I like that.
So, how is the iPod?
10-28-2004, 07:01 AM
it's not the panasonic, but it's not winamp. It can repeat songs. Stilll, it's pretty good. My nomad would sometimes play the same song in a row.
10-28-2004, 10:16 AM
I use the shuffle mode on my all the time. (never use it with out it). I use my ipod mostly at night before sleep w/ the sleep timer. its great to lay in bed and fall asleep to your favorite songs. anyways. out of the past 4 months that i have been doing this almost every night, i dont think its repeated a song once in the same play period. but then again im the process of falling asleep.
10-28-2004, 10:44 AM
I think its funny how we like the idea of random, but it has to be modified random. :) I know what you mean and i get frustrated too when random things come up 4 times in 3 hours when you have 1000 songs going on. I just got my ipod up and running today, so i'll drop maybe 20 songs on it and i will play it on random and try to keep a log for you. Maybe that can help us find out.
10-28-2004, 11:13 AM
In my experience, the iPod's "shuffle" feature is lousy. It doesn't compare to Winamp's.
I've had my iPod for 7 months. It's a 15 GB unit and at this moment I have 1763 songs on it.
It's a very common occurrence for me to hear 3 or 4 tracks from the same album during a 30 or 40 minute "shuffle" session. It also seems that among shuffle sessions I hear the same songs over and over. I've been meaning to run some tests, and if I do I'll post the results here.
I can't figure out why this is: I've reformatted and reloaded the iPod a few times yet it still happens.
For a good shuffle, do Winamp. :)
10-28-2004, 02:42 PM
I find the ipod to be versatile. Thee is a separeate "repeat" menu and "shuffle" menu. Repeat settings are Off, One, and All while shuffle settings are Off, Songs, and Album. By using those 2 settings, you can fine tune your random playing needs to what you want. For instance, for shuffle all and repeat off, it will play all songs from a playlist and then stop.
Dell DJ works very well in this regards. You can program it to Shuffle Once and it will play each song on the DJ just once and stop when it has played all the songs.
10-28-2004, 06:09 PM
That seems to be how my iRiver functions as well (just like WinAMP).
10-28-2004, 06:19 PM
The shuffle works fine for me. I don't mind clicking away. Is there any way to just shuffle the songs of certain genre or group on a 4gen hiPod? That would be reallly nice.
Btw, I got it playing right now I couldn't be more happy with it. I picked up some Sony MDR-EX51LP Fontopia Headphones from Amazon and it's almost night and day. I keep looking at the Shure E2/E3c wondering how much better they sound.
1100 great songs and counting....
10-28-2004, 06:30 PM
In my experience, the shuffle does not play the same songs over again, however it doesn't seem to move songs very far away from it's original playlist location. It seems like it doesn't shuffle very thoroughly, but then it could all be psychological that I just notice the song more when it comes from the same album that I heard several songs ago. I noticed on several occasions that songs from the same album would play back to back, or every other song.
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