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zippyjuan
11-11-2004, 12:23 AM
Microsoft seeks top search spot (From the BBC)

Ballmer: Aiming to surpass Google
Computer software giant Microsoft has unveiled its new MSN search engine.
The company claims the tool indexes more web pages than any rival and it has rolled in lots of the features seen on other search sites.

Initially, it has launched just a prototype, but the finished version will be ready by the end of 2004.

Microsoft plans to use the search site as a springboard to take a significant share of the advertising market from rivals Google and Yahoo.

Search wars

In July this year, Microsoft updated and tidied up its MSN search page to remove unwanted adverts and to speed up the returning of results.

That search engine was based on technology provided by Yahoo and now Microsoft has dropped that in favour of its own home-grown search engine.

Microsoft has been testing this own-brand search tool since July and now has launched a test version.

In a statement Microsoft said its search engine returned results from five billion web pages. At the time of writing, Google was only indexing 4,285,199,774 web pages.

As well as a large number of pages, the Microsoft search engine, which operates under the MSN banner, also includes a number of features that have already been seen on other search sites.

Any which way

Results returned by the MSN search engine will be arranged according to categories. Users will be able to flip between different results, such as web, news and images, by clicking on tabs.

Also on hand will be menus to help refine searches according to countries or languages.


Google is king of the search space
Microsoft will also include what it has dubbed "graphic equalisers" that let people emphasise different characteristics of results such as ones that are more popular or more recent.

The search site will also return canned results for discrete queries such as capital cities and other well known facts plus definitions, calculations, conversions and solutions to equations. Ask Jeeves has been offering similar services for some time.

The search market has become much more competitive in 2004, largely because so many organisations realise that the main thing that web users do is search for information.

Research carried out by Ask Jeeves suggests that 80% of what people do on the web begins at a search site.

'We will surpass'

This also explains the recent interest in personal search systems that catalogue everything people have on their home computer. Firms such as Blinkx, Copernic, Enfish, X1 and Google and others have all released programs that index all the files on your PC.

Microsoft has yet to launch its version of this type of software.

Microsoft hopes that its MSN search will take a significant share of the advertising revenue that Google currently generates.

At its recent annual shareholder meeting Microsoft chief executive Steve Ballmer said the company would take on Google directly.

"We think there is a heck of a lot of great new innovation in the search space," said Mr Ballmer. "We will catch up. We will surpass."

But Microsoft has a long way to go to catch Google not least because so many people, 82 million per month, use the site. In its recent results, Google revealed that profits and sales more than doubled in its third quarter.

Memo
11-11-2004, 01:26 AM
http://search.msn.com/

So, they made it as much like google as they could without infringing copyright? This isn't going half as good. Google is all about simplicity and ease of use. Microsoft is all about trying to pack as much **** in to make more money. Just do a search on MSN - the top of the page is 'Sponsored Sites.' That's what they really want you to click on where Google has the links off to the side not distracting from the actually search results. Plus, they would need to add a site cache as Google has. That has saved me MANY a times when looking for lost files.

bachviet
11-11-2004, 07:30 AM
I still stay with Google.

Airencracken
11-11-2004, 06:47 PM
Google all the way.

Bires
11-11-2004, 09:41 PM
Google is all about simplicity and ease of use. Microsoft is all about trying to pack as much **** in to make more money.
Well put.


This is why Google is in no danger until MS makes some paradigm shifts.

verve247
11-12-2004, 08:24 AM
Google is already on the offensive, planning to double web page index to 8 Billion and change gmail to pop (http://news.zdnet.co.uk/internet/0,39020369,39173340,00.htm)


Google's index expands and Gmail goes POP


Graeme Wearden, ZDNet UK, and Stefanie Olsen, CNET News.com
ZDNet UK
November 11, 2004, 09:27 GMT


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Popular Internet search engine Google has doubled the number of Web pages in its database and given Gmail free POP support


In a posting on the company's own blog on Wednesday, Bill Coughran, vice-president of engineering, announced that Google's index now exceeds eight billion pages.




Some critics have claimed in the past that one of Google's flaws is that a search will return hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of pages, even though a typical Web user won't look beyond a couple of pages of results.

But Coughran says that people looking for obscure search terms will see a real benefit from this widening of the Google index.

"Comprehensiveness is not the only important factor in evaluating a search engine, but it's invaluable for queries that only return a few results. For example, now when I search for friends who previously generated only a handful of results, I see double that number," wrote Coughran.

"These are not just copies of the same pages, but truly diverse results that give more information. The same is true for obscure topics, where you're now significantly more likely to find relevant and diverse information about the subjects," Coughran added.

Coughran also said that Google's army of programmers would keep working on better systems for cataloguing the Web, and to help users search through Google's indexes.

Since its creation in the mid-1990s, Google has become the dominant player in the search engine market. This position is now being actively targeted by Microsoft, which is launching a version of its own search engine this week.

Chief executive Steve Ballmer told Microsoft shareholders on Tuesday that his company would beat Google's technology and double its advertising revenue in the next five years.

"We will catch up, we will surpass," Ballmer said.

Google has also added a new feature to its Gmail service, which is still in beta. It now allows people to download email from any third-party account or forward their Gmail for free using POP (Post Office Protocol) access.

Using the feature, people can send Gmail email to mobile devices, such as a BlackBerry, or to Microsoft Outlook. The company, whose offer of one gigabyte of mail storage prompted rivals to follow suit with added storage, said it does not have any plans to charge for either feature.

Many of Gmail's rivals, including Yahoo and Microsoft, charge for similar POP access. Yahoo Mail, for example, collects $19.95 for POP email forwarding, among other premium features. It does not charge for POP downloading to Yahoo Mail.