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BrewMaster
12-06-2004, 01:41 PM
Pretty interesting. In the NPR interview they did today they said that since the gamblers had not touched or affected the gambling device (ie the roulette wheel) then they didn't cheat, they just found a way to figure out the game and improve their chances of winning. Sort of like counting cards. The casinos say it's cheating but the law says it ain't.

Hi-tech gamblers allowed to keep million-pound winnings (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1538&e=9&u=/afp/britain_gambling_offbeat)

Mon Dec 6, 4:18 AM ET


LONDON (AFP) - Three gamblers who used a James Bond-style laser device to win over a million pounds at a hotel casino will not face prosecution, as they did nothing illegal.

The trio who pulled off an audacious coup at the Ritz using gadgetry on March 16 to calculate where a roulette ball would land are to be allowed to keep their 1.3 million-pound winnings, officers said.

"All three persons that were arrested have been informed that no further action will be taken," a Scotland Yard spokesman told AFP.

"All the money detained by the police has been returned," he added.

Police had seized the cash and froze bank accounts during a nine-month investigation into the alleged sting.

The Sunday Times revealed that the gamblers -- described by police sources as a "chic and beautiful" Hungarian woman, aged 32, and two "elegant" Serbian men, aged 33 and 38 -- were alleged to have smuggled into the casino a laser scanner inside a mobile phone that was linked to a micro-computer.

The scanner measured the speed of the ball as it was released by the croupier, identified where it fell and measured the declining orbit of the wheel.

The data was beamed to the micro-computer, which calculated on which section of numbers the ball would land. This information was then flashed onto the screen of the mobile just before the wheel made its third spin, by which time all bets must be placed.

Having reduced their odds of winning from 37-1 to 6-1, the trio placed bets on all six numbers in the section where the ball would definitely end up.

On the first night they won 100,000 pounds, returning the next night to win 1.2 million pounds.

After the casinos security experts later examined closed-circuit television footage, officers from the Yards gaming squad arrested the trio at a nearby hotel on suspicion of obtaining their winnings by deception.

They were given bail but have now been told they are free to leave Britain.

Legal sources said the gamblers had were let off because it was deemed they had not violated any law, since the scanner did not interfere with the ball or wheel.

WhiskeyPapa
12-06-2004, 01:52 PM
I remember a story several years ago about some guys who had a device hidden in a shoe. A guy would tap his foot each time the ball passed in front of him, and it would somehow indicate which numbers were most likely to win.

Yeah, here it is: http://physics.ucsc.edu/people/eudaemons/eudaemons.html

BrewMaster
12-06-2004, 02:13 PM
I remember a story several years ago about some guys who had a device hidden in a shoe. A guy would tap his foot each time the ball passed in front of him, and it would somehow indicate which numbers were most likely to win.

Yeah, here it is: http://physics.ucsc.edu/people/eudaemons/eudaemons.html

wow. the fact that they did that in the 70s and 80s by counting revolutions is really cool. i wonder if these latest gamblers took their cue from the UCSC folks.

kei2
12-06-2004, 04:21 PM
Dude. If they continue to allow that, that's easy money.

bachviet
12-06-2004, 09:59 PM
Good money...

StonedWheat
12-07-2004, 12:17 AM
All those times I wanted to create a "laser" to take over the world, and ended up watching Adult swim and falling asleep instead...I could have been a millionaire!

Is finding a loophole cheating? I don't think so! Good for them if they got away with it.

ShawnLee
12-07-2004, 01:08 AM
They could have an implicit agreement that anyone placing bets promises not to use a device or help someone else while using a device at penalty of lawsuit. That'd open the gamblers up for prosecution. Sort of like a casino EULA.

Still, good for these folks getting back at the gambling system. Let them enjoy their hard earned money.

Sir_Froggy
12-07-2004, 04:16 AM
thats so awesome....

haha casinowned?

BrewMaster
12-07-2004, 08:06 AM
if you're not too greedy about it you could probably pick up $50K at each casino in NV. that would be a nice days work.