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faither
12-13-2004, 02:09 PM
I'm torn as to whether I want to see him dead or spending the rest of his life in jail. Now it looks like both -- sentenced to death but he'll probably spend the rest of his life in jail.

Does CA execute?


Jury Sentences Peterson to Death for Murder of Pregnant Wife
By MARIA NEWMAN

Published: December 13, 2004


California jury sentenced Scott Peterson today to death by injection for murdering his pregnant wife two years ago.

The verdict came on the third day of deliberations by the same jury that on Nov. 12 found Mr. Peterson guilty of first-degree murder in the death of his wife, Laci, who was eight months pregnant, and of second-degree murder in the death of her unborn child.

With dozens of observers and journalists from around the world awaiting a decision inside and outside the courthouse, the jury of six men and six women, which had taken seven hours to convict Mr. Peterson of murder, reached their decision on the penalty after 12 hours of deliberations. The jurors' only choice was to give Mr. Peterson death or life in prison without possibility of parole.

This morning, just before they came to a final decision, the jurors asked to see 13 pieces of evidence, including autopsy photos and aerial pictures of the bay where prosecutors said Mr. Peterson dumped his wife's body.

They also asked to see a widely publicized photograph of Laci Peterson wearing a red maternity pantsuit with her hands folded across her lap, a smile lighting up her face.

Mr. Peterson will remain at the San Mateo County jail until Feb. 25, when Judge Alfred A. Delucchi, who presided over this trial, will formally impose the sentence.

During the trial's penalty phase, defense lawyers put 39 witnesses on the stand to talk about Mr. Peterson, a 32-year-old fertilizer salesman from Modesto, as an upstanding young man, a far different portrait than prosecutors painted of a manipulative criminal who had hatched a "monstrous plan" to kill his pregnant wife to facilitate an extramarital affair.

The trial, which lasted more than six months, stoked a national appetite for real-life courtroom drama. Images of the well-scrubbed young couple, shown time and again on television and in an array of publications, collided with descriptions by prosecutors of a grisly murder with undertones of betrayal and adultery.

The case entered the national consciousness soon after Dec. 24, 2002, when Mr. Peterson told the police that he had returned home from a solitary fishing trip on San Francisco Bay to discover his 27-year-old wife, who was expecting their first child, was missing.

Ms. Peterson's body was found in the bay nearly four months later, without a head or limbs. But Mr. Peterson was not arrested until weeks later, long after he had been repeatedly shown on television professing sorrow and ignorance about the circumstances of his wife's disappearance.

The prosecution said Mr. Peterson had most likely killed his wife at home, driven to a marina in Berkeley and taken his new 14-foot boat far out into San Francisco Bay. There, they said, he dumped his wife's weighted body into the chilly water.

The first indication that Mr. Peterson might not have been the devoted - and innocent - husband he once appeared to be came on January 2003 with the disclosure of his affair with Amber Frey, a massage therapist he had begun seeing a few weeks before his wife's disappearance. Ms. Frey had gone to the police shortly after seeing the initial news reports about the case and had helped in their investigation.

Tape recordings of telephone conversations between Mr. Peterson and Ms. Frey, which were made by her, were played for jurors at trial. While Mr. Peterson never confessed to killing his wife, the tapes helped portray him as a liar as he was heard telling Ms. Frey that he was in far-off locations when he was really in Modesto.

Last week, in closing arguments in the penalty phase, Mr. Peterson's lawyers, Mark Geragos and Pat Harris, pleaded with the jury to spare Mr. Peterson by sentencing him to life in prison rather than death. Mr. Geragos even offered to get on his knees, if that would make a difference.

"I feel like I let my client down," Mr. Geragos said. In arguing against the death penalty, he told the jury, "There does not need to be any more death in this case."

The prosecutor, Dave Harris, who sought the death penalty, said Mr. Peterson had killed his wife in cold blood. "This is somebody who had everything and threw it away," Mr. Harris said. "He had a plan and he executed it."

The cause of Mrs. Peterson's death was never determined, nor was any murder weapon found. Nevertheless, the prosecution convinced the jury that Mr. Peterson had smothered or strangled Mrs. Peterson in their home on or around Christmas Eve 2002. His motive, they said, was a desire to be unencumbered to continue his affair with Ms. Frey.

Mr. Harris said that the 39 witnesses who had testified on Mr. Peterson's behalf, arguing that he be spared the death penalty, often portraying him as a good neighbor, brother and husband, or a young man who had helped the elderly, "didn't know the real Scott," adding, "that he's a manipulator, that he's a liar."

"He's not a person who deserves your sympathy," Mr. Harris told the jurors.

During the penalty phase of the hearing, which began on the last day of November, the most emotional testimony came from Mr. Peterson's mother, Jackie Peterson, and Laci Peterson's mother, Sharon Rocha, both of whom tearfully expressed sorrow and grief over their children's fates.

Mrs. Peterson spent 40 minutes on the stand on Wednesday urging jurors to sentence her son to life without parole to save the family further pain.

"If you were to take Scott away from us," Jackie Peterson told the jurors, "it would be a whole family wiped off the face of the earth. It would be like Laci never existed."

She beseeched jurors to see the good in her son.

"I beg you to consider that, how he helps people and how he always has," she said.

Mrs. Rocha, one of four relatives who spoke on Laci's behalf in the penalty hearing, lashed out at her son-in-law, sometimes screaming directly at him, sometimes talking to the jury about her heartache after learning of the gruesome discovery of the bodies of her daughter and unborn grandchild months after the disappearance.

"Divorce was always an option, not murder!" she yelled at Mr. Peterson.

"You knew where she was," she continued. "You didn't tell us. Instead you just let us go through this every day."

BrewMaster
12-13-2004, 02:40 PM
yes, CA most certainly executes. like every state there are years of appeals, but after they run out he will die.

nickel
12-13-2004, 03:20 PM
i feel bad for his parents. his mom took the stand and pleaded for her son's life. she said she has felt like she had already lost 2 family members and didn't want to lose a third.

but on the other hand, like Laci's parents said, divorce was an option.
how can you kill someone like that and live with yourself?

InfiniteNothing
12-13-2004, 03:35 PM
Is this in bad taste? scale of 1-10.
http://www.dluxz.dk/owned.jpg

cheapie
12-13-2004, 03:48 PM
i'm not convinced he did it. of course, i don't know crap about the case other than they really don't have any evidence to show he did it. minor details. lol.

Memo
12-13-2004, 03:48 PM
Not really in bad taste per se, but not funny or appropriate?

BrewMaster
12-13-2004, 04:06 PM
on the scale of taste i would say 3. yeah, it's in bad taste, but I laughed because it is funny.

YanksFanRy
12-13-2004, 04:20 PM
Guilty or not? I can't possibly say. But for me, this is as expected.

BoxZgrl
12-13-2004, 04:40 PM
I'm torn on the issue, i'm almost favoring life because with the death sentence it seems as if he gets the easy way out. He doesnt have to sit in jail cell and actually think about what hes done. But then again, the last execution performed in CA was in 2002 for a man sentenced to death in 1980ish. So I think he'll probably sit in jail and die of natural causes before he gets the dreadful needle.

bachviet
12-13-2004, 06:17 PM
It probably takes CA 20 years to execute him after all the appeals and tax he wasted. :disa:

LegendKiller
12-13-2004, 07:21 PM
i'm not convinced he did it. of course, i don't know crap about the case other than they really don't have any evidence to show he did it. minor details. lol.


I agree. I think that the aparent jury shopping at the end was pretty shady.


LK

Nija
12-13-2004, 07:42 PM
I became fairly convinced when the bodies showed up at his alibi.

oblongmelon
12-13-2004, 09:22 PM
why bother with execution by injection..I say...wrap him up in duck tape and toss him into the bay for about 4 months..

eSDee
12-13-2004, 09:39 PM
why bother with execution by injection..I say...wrap him up in duck tape and toss him into the bay for about 4 months..

:stupid: Or why not strap him to a rocket, and launch him into space?

Dude was guiltier than OJ. I would have been happy if he got life in prison, but this'll do as well.

Gothic Girl
12-13-2004, 09:57 PM
yes, CA most certainly executes. like every state there are years of appeals, but after they run out he will die.
Since Cali reinstated the Death Penalty in 1978, there have only been 10 inmates actually put to death. So I imagine it will still be a long, long time. But I am glad he got that sentence. Serves him right :dead:

ShawnLee
12-13-2004, 10:51 PM
I think of the Ron White comedy I saw this weekend. Other states are getting rid of the death penalty. Mine (Tejas) is putting in an express lane.

I wasn't entirely convinced at first, but seeing the spelled out circumstancial evidence that was everywhere convinced me. And as for alternate theories? There are far easier ways to make him look more guilty. Either he did it, or there's a crack team out there that lives to plant evidence to make it look like he was trying to hide evidence.

nickel
12-14-2004, 05:24 AM
:stupid: Or why not strap him to a rocket, and launch him into space?

Dude was guiltier than OJ. I would have been happy if he got life in prison, but this'll do as well.
how can someone be "guiltier"? guilt is guilt.

i think he and OJ need to be strapped to the rocket.

Sir_Froggy
12-14-2004, 07:13 AM
Is this in bad taste? scale of 1-10.
http://www.dluxz.dk/owned.jpg

hmm...maybe petersowned would have been better....

Grubbie
12-14-2004, 07:24 AM
Is this in bad taste? scale of 1-10.
http://www.dluxz.dk/owned.jpg


Ahh soo great and not in bad taste to me atleast. Isn't that the kid that was photochopped into a ton of things?

Now we just need some more OWNED pics to make this thread better.

welfareloser
12-14-2004, 07:45 AM
sounds like in cali, giving him a death sentence is just a way of saying life in prison with absolutely no parole or conjugal visits or a hint of a prayer of ever getting out and affecting anyone's life again. good enough for me.

anyone who thinks that divorce, losing half your stuff, and making child support payments for 18 years is enough of a hassle that murder is the right way around it is truly a textbook sociopath.

BrewMaster
12-14-2004, 01:37 PM
interestingly enough, a new report is set to come out this week from the DPIC (http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/) detailing that inmates sentenced to death are more likely to die of natural causes in prison than to be actually put to death. might as well save all the damn money on appeals and just lock them up until they die.

bachviet
12-14-2004, 03:27 PM
interestingly enough, a new report is set to come out this week from the DPIC (http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/) detailing that inmates sentenced to death are more likely to die of natural causes in prison than to be actually put to death. might as well save all the damn money on appeals and just lock them up until they die.
If he's in Texas, it's another story.

BrewMaster
12-14-2004, 03:29 PM
If he's in Texas, it's another story.
Yeah, if he was in Nigeria it's another story too. But who the fvck cares because he's not in either place.

actually though, I think Texas has the same results. the report doesn't say that all death row inmates die of natural causes, but a majority (ie more than 50%).

oblongmelon
12-14-2004, 10:24 PM
:stupid: Or why not strap him to a rocket, and launch him into space?

Dude was guiltier than OJ. I would have been happy if he got life in prison, but this'll do as well.
3 rolls Duck Tape-11 dollars
Chilly murky water-free
Two men to lift and throw overboard-100 dollars
~Knowing that Petersen is going to experience the same fate as his wife and son, while watching him cry like a baby and beg for his pathetic lying sack of crap life-PRICELESS.

Specially built rocket-5 billion dollars
Use of Launch pad-3 billion dollars
Hiring Controllers, engineers etc to conduct launch-1 trillion dollars
Fuel to launch petersen so far out into space he'd never return-1 zillion dollars
Not knowing whether stunt would dissapate him into a billion pieces, or if he would land on some extraterrestrial galaxy and become ruler-OVERPRICED.

Nah..I say go for the tape.

eSDee
12-14-2004, 10:29 PM
Hehe damn that was dramatic obby. Why don't we compromise. Can we launch him into a river using one of those pumpkin catapults that are so popular around Halloween? :D

BrewMaster
12-15-2004, 07:51 AM
cruel and unusual punishment? :shrug:

WhiskeyPapa
12-15-2004, 08:00 AM
Can we launch him into a river using one of those pumpkin catapults that are so popular around Halloween? :DI volunteer!
http://www.idmn.com/chris/pumpkins.jpg

BrewMaster
12-15-2004, 08:14 AM
that's just a trebuchet being used to launch pumpkins, right?

Sir_Froggy
12-15-2004, 03:25 PM
that's just a trebuchet being used to launch pumpkins, right?

yea, man have you guys seen that NOVA where the two teams built trebuchets and launched rocks at a wall? oh man it was awesome...I need to build one

BrewMaster
12-15-2004, 03:37 PM
yea, man have you guys seen that NOVA where the two teams built trebuchets and launched rocks at a wall? oh man it was awesome...I need to build one
would that constitute "going Medieval" on someone?

ShawnLee
12-15-2004, 07:03 PM
Dude... I love how conversation goes from killing a killer, to throwing a killer, to throwing pumpkins, to building trebuchets. While we're on topic (whatever topic that is), I want to build a potato cannon.

BrewMaster
12-15-2004, 07:25 PM
Dude... I love how conversation goes from killing a killer, to throwing a killer, to throwing pumpkins, to building trebuchets. While we're on topic (whatever topic that is), I want to build a potato cannon.
dude, don't. i did that in HS and my ears are still ringing. not to mention there is still an old man in my parents neighborhood wondering who put a dent in the fender of his Cadillac with a potato. they are difficult to tune properly, but once you get it, they are dangerous.

zenbooty
12-16-2004, 11:34 AM
So what's the difference between a catapult and a trebuchet?

zenbooty
12-16-2004, 11:48 AM
dude, don't. i did that in HS and my ears are still ringing. not to mention there is still an old man in my parents neighborhood wondering who put a dent in the fender of his Cadillac with a potato. they are difficult to tune properly, but once you get it, they are dangerous.Don't listen to him. Potato guns are why we were put on this Earth!

We wanted to put together a couple and have mortar wars from the roofs of various buildings on 9th Ave. (Hell's Kitchen). Something told us that the cops would throw away the key for that one, though :).

WhiskeyPapa
12-16-2004, 12:22 PM
that's just a trebuchet being used to launch pumpkins, right?Yeah, my son and I built it last winter. It looks awesome, but honestly can't throw a pumpkin more than about 40 feet. I think it needs a bit of tuning or something.

WhiskeyPapa
12-16-2004, 12:28 PM
So what's the difference between a catapult and a trebuchet?Typically a catapult uses elastic tension to provide the energy (think twisted ropes) while a trebuchet uses weight and gravity. The falling bucket of stones provides the power source for my trebuchet.

InfiniteNothing
12-16-2004, 02:20 PM
Yeah, my son and I built it last winter. It looks awesome, but honestly can't throw a pumpkin more than about 40 feet. I think it needs a bit of tuning or something.
Release at 45 degrees. Extend the long side. Incease the counterweight.

WhiskeyPapa
12-16-2004, 02:28 PM
The release has been the tricky part. I need to buy some "pro" trebuchet parts instead of the bent eye hook thing I've been trying to tweak. I know increasing the counter weight would help, but that box is already holding all it can. I was thinking of pouring concrete into a mold of some sort.

eSDee
12-16-2004, 02:36 PM
Why don't you attach a platform to the side of the box, then have your kid stand on it when you release the switch? :D

BrewMaster
12-16-2004, 02:53 PM
Why don't you attach a platform to the side of the box, then have your kid stand on it when you release the switch? :D

yeah, why not? you've got extra kids if one or two of them get smashed...