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nickel
12-15-2004, 01:02 PM
December 15, 2004, 4:15 AM EST

ST. PAUL, Minn. -- A 79-year-old retiree who tussled with a man half his age over the man's foul language in a restaurant was sentenced to probation -- but outside of that, he's been treated more like a hero than a criminal.

Bill Stevenson said the fracas began in July when he and another retired 3M engineer, 74-year-old Sten Gerfast, were having coffee at a bagel shop. In walked 40-year-old Jesse Tabor, talking on a cell phone and liberally using four-letter words, the men said.

In an interview after the incident, Tabor said he didn't recall cursing. But Stevenson and Gerfast remember it differently.

"There was an argument on the phone," Stevenson said. "The third time he walked by our booth ... Mr. Gerfast said to me, 'Should I do something about it?'"

So Gerfast tapped Tabor on the shoulder and asked him to take his call outside, Stevenson said. But Tabor, who was with his 13-year-old daughter at the time, dismissed him. Stevenson said he got involved when Tabor continued to shout obscenities.

"I've been in lots of different places, but when I heard that kind of stuff coming in my hometown, I thought, 'Somebody's got to do something,'" Stevenson said.

Stevenson grabbed the phone from Tabor and the two men engaged in a few seconds of tug-of-war. Thinking better of it, Stevenson said he let go and Tabor "went sailing across the floor."

Stevenson pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct Tuesday and was given three months of probation. But even the lawyers at Ramsey County District Court were giving him thumbs-up signs as he left the courtroom, he said.

"I've had over 30 calls and letters and e-mails, and I've not had one negative call. They're all on my side," Stevenson said.

Gerfast was acquitted of disorderly conduct charges last month. Tabor failed to appear at a September hearing and a bench warrant was issued for him.

Stevenson claimed Tabor "mocked me about being an old man."

"I just sat there and drank my coffee," Stevenson said. "I thought, 'You can think what you want, mister, but a couple of senior citizens stood up to you, and we ought to get a little bit more respect.'"

linky (http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-language-vigilante,0,4131637.story?coll=sns-ap-nation-headlines)

Jenny
12-15-2004, 01:17 PM
That's so awesome. :D

Almost nothing bugs me more than to a) see a parent carrying or sitting with their child and smoking right near them and b) to act like that (saying stuff like that) in front of their kids. What kind of example does that set?? :|

BrewMaster
12-15-2004, 01:30 PM
Tabor failed to appear at a September hearing and a bench warrant was issued for him. |
what a winner. talks like that in public with his 13 y.o. daughter with him. kudos the the old man for showing him whats up. he should have grabbed him by the ear and dragged him outside. that would have been hilarious.

DarkFury
12-15-2004, 01:30 PM
Young "whipper snapper". :D

eSDee
12-15-2004, 01:33 PM
I don't know. Something about teaching a lesson to someone in front of their young daughter doesn't sound like a good idea to me. He may have been out of line but it's still a delicate situation.

LegendKiller
12-15-2004, 01:37 PM
Don't mess with Minnesotans...


LK

bachviet
12-15-2004, 03:50 PM
Don't mess with Minnesotans...


LK
Because they could sit and crush me to death? J/K

Not all old men created equal. :D

ShawnLee
12-15-2004, 06:54 PM
I like those old guys. Don't screw with someone with disposable income, free time, and no reason to fear death.

BrewMaster
12-15-2004, 07:26 PM
kind of reminds me of Grumpier Old Men.

Nija
12-15-2004, 07:33 PM
The old dude shouldn't have touched the dude. It's not his place. Report him to management.

The young dude shouldn't have been swearing like a sailor.

BigJon
12-16-2004, 04:18 AM
Go old guy, go old guy!

Devhux
12-16-2004, 10:32 AM
The old dude shouldn't have touched the dude. It's not his place. Report him to management.

Somehow this sounds all too familiar -- oh wait, it's because a similar situation happened to me recently, and now I'm the one being punished (I wasn't the older person).

BrewMaster
12-16-2004, 10:38 AM
Somehow this sounds all too familiar -- oh wait, it's because a similar situation happened to me recently, and now I'm the one being punished (I wasn't the older person).
care to share the story so that we can ridicule you? :hihi: jk.

Devhux
12-16-2004, 10:53 AM
At the moment I can't really go into detail, but what I can tell you is that I'm most definately NOT the one at fault (everyone BUT management sees that).

So, no ridicule for GuruX. :)

johnnymk
12-16-2004, 01:32 PM
HEH, Sounds a little like something which happened to a 51 year old woman I know.

She was in a local bar where they have Karaoke. The place is really sleazy and caters to the rednecks around here.

Anyway, this drunk came over to the table where she was sitting and asks if she would sing with him. She politely told him several times that she wouldn't.
He kept insisting.

Well, he came over to the table and started pounding on it screaming at her calling her names for not singing with him. There was a lit candle on the table. When her drinks spilled and the wax from the candle spilled on her clean pants, she totally lost it.

She got up on his back put her legs around him and started punching him (Her job is videotaping wrestlers for the local WWF). After the guy fell to the floor, she ran out of the bar. All of the patrons were cheering her on as she left.

I wish I would have seen this. She is normally a very laid back sort of person.

nickel
12-16-2004, 03:24 PM
HEH, Sounds a little like something which happened to a 51 year old woman I know.

She was in a local bar where they have Karaoke. The place is really sleazy and caters to the rednecks around here.

Anyway, this drunk came over to the table where she was sitting and asks if she would sing with him. She politely told him several times that she wouldn't.
He kept insisting.

Well, he came over to the table and started pounding on it screaming at her calling her names for not singing with him. There was a lit candle on the table. When her drinks spilled and the wax from the candle spilled on her clean pants, she totally lost it.

She got up on his back put her legs around him and started punching him (Her job is videotaping wrestlers for the local WWF). After the guy fell to the floor, she ran out of the bar. All of the patrons were cheering her on as she left.

I wish I would have seen this. She is normally a very laid back sort of person.
did she hurt you very bad johnnymk? :wavey2:

johnnymk
12-16-2004, 05:07 PM
did she hurt you very bad johnnymk? :wavey2:

Just my back :spock: