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Merlin
12-16-2004, 11:31 AM
From today's FT (http://news.ft.com/cms/s/9bb8eac0-4f08-11d9-9488-00000e2511c8.html)


Airlines given green light on in-flight internet access
By Joanna Chung in Washington
Published: December 16 2004 02:00 | Last updated: December 16 2004 02:00

A decision yesterday by federal regulators to let US airlines provide high-speed internet access to passengers could provide a new source of revenue to telephone providers and the struggling airline industry.


The US Federal Communications Commission, which approved a measure to restructure how frequencies for air-to-ground services are used, said it plans to auction airwave rights to companies seeking to offer wireless internet access on commercial aircraft.

The FCC also began discussions on the possibility of removing a ban on the use of cell phones on aircraft though any easing of rules would not occur until both the FCC and the Federal Aviation Administration, which also has a ban on the practice, finish examining how a lifting of the restriction would affect aircraft navigation systems and cell phone use on the ground.

"With these actions today, we take important steps to bring the air-ground service up-to-date as both a technical and marketplace matter," said Michael Powell, the FCC chairman. "We need to do more to provide more choices and multiple platforms for communications between the air and the ground to satisfy the demand for better, high-speed services."

Airline passengers are currently able to communicate with the ground only via telephones located in the backs of seats, a service provided solely by Verizon Airfone. It is unclear how many companies will be allowed to offer communication services through the auction, which is likely to occur late next year. The commission has set up different scenarios for splitting four megahertz of wireless airwaves.

Separately, the commission ruled that it would phase out discounts that the big four local telephone companies, known as the Baby Bells, offer competitors for access to their networks. The 3-2 decision, which is the latest in an eight-year effort to increase competition in the local phone market, would give the competitors up to 12 months to build their own networks or negotiate new leasing agreements. It would probably lead to higher telephone bills for many residential and business consumers.

Mark Cooper of the Consumer Federation of America said: "The FCC today continued its practice of chipping away at telecommunications competition while strengthening the Bell monopoly. And consumers will be the ones paying the price through diminished choices and higher rates."

* US regulators approved new rules yesterday that would ease some requirements for the Baby Bells to lease their networks to competitors at government-set rates, reports Reuters in Washington. A divided FCC approved new rules that would require the Baby Bells to continue to provide discounted rates for rivals to serve business customers that have little choice for service.

The agency said the Bells would have to lease high-capacity lines and offer transport of calls between offices at the low rates, depending on the number of business lines or competitors in the area. In the Bells' wire centres, where there are tens of thousands of business lines or several fibre-optic line competitors operating, the low-cost leasing requirements would not apply, according to the FCC.

whitak24
12-16-2004, 12:31 PM
that is awesome!

now if only they would lift the ban on computers and cd players during takeoff and landing.

caribiner23
12-16-2004, 12:56 PM
The idea of in-flight internet is awesome. Let's hope they don't charge out the *** for it.

I am far less excited about the possibility of cellphones being allowed in flight. I have a 35-minute commute by train now, and at least three times a week I am subjected to some idiot entertaining the entire car with his/her work/home life.

I can just imagine what a four-hour cross-country would be like:

"Hi Cindy, this is Karen. Yeah, I'm on a flight to Seattle and... yeah, on the flight... NO SH**! They've got this really cool thing now where you can call from the plane! Anyway, I wanted you to get that project plan together for the 2005 budgets. Yeah, I know Rob wanted them Thursday, but he's such a d*** that I want to do it now. I know he's p.o.'d because I wouldn't go out with him. That's why I only got a 32k bonus last year, you know. Oh wait, hang on-- I have another call... Hello? What? Wha-- Ashley... Ashley! Stop hitting your brother! Ashl--- give your dad the phone. GIVE HIM THE G*****N PHONE!!!"

...and with my luck, I'll have the middle seat and my iPod's batteries will be dead.

DaFunkyUnit
12-16-2004, 01:11 PM
Lufthansa has had this service for some months now.

The reason I know this is because my company's subsidiary provides the service.

Booyamos
12-16-2004, 01:38 PM
ahh i just read about this. Some planes have it but use boeing's service and charge you some stupid amount of money. I would very much enjoy being able to use it on a plane. Now cell phones though... i prefer my plane to be quiet, no cell phones please. People can take a few hours without a phone. A flight from Boston to Seattle with people chatting on their phones would be a pain in the ass.

And i think they will have the no electronics during take off/landing for a while. the way i understand their reasoning is when you use an electronic device you are creating a small electo-magnetic field or something like that, and depending upon where you are on the plane there is an off chance that you could disrupt a signal in the plane. Since take off and landing are the most crucial parts with the most things going on it is just safest to reduce that risk and turn off electronics for 10 minutes. not that big of a hassle really.

caribiner23
12-16-2004, 01:56 PM
And i think they will have the no electronics during take off/landing for a while. the way i understand their reasoning is when you use an electronic device you are creating a small electo-magnetic field or something like that, and depending upon where you are on the plane there is an off chance that you could disrupt a signal in the plane. Since take off and landing are the most crucial parts with the most things going on it is just safest to reduce that risk and turn off electronics for 10 minutes. not that big of a hassle really.
:stupid:

A friend of mine who was a flight attendant told me exactly this.

BrewMaster
12-16-2004, 02:02 PM
they are talking about making low power usage cell phones or at least have a low power mode on phones so that they would have no chance of interfering with navigation systems. we'll see if it catches on. i don't mind no cell phones in the air.

i'm down for the internet access but then more planes need to have normal outlets, not those cigarette lighter outlets like on American Airlines. A freaking converter for that is $75-$125 at radio shack. You can't use the el cheapo converters because they don't put out enough power for a laptop.

ShawnLee
12-16-2004, 02:40 PM
I was having a discussion with a classmate of mine yesterday. As we were walking across campus, one of the young undergrads was on her cell phone talking from when she came into earshot to when she left. He just looked at me and said, "Imagine her on a plane, sitting behind you for six hours."

I stand by my response, "I'd have to re-examine my views on murder/suicide."

kimchicowboy
12-16-2004, 04:32 PM
yeah. singapore is already planning to put inflight internet service on their flights. i think flights like >8 hours is like between $20-$30 (from what i remember) for unlimited usage. for flights <8 hours, it's like $15 for unlimited usage. whatever the numbers are, i remember thinking that i'd totally pay for that cuz it wasn't some crazy price people pay to use those stupid behind-the-seat phones that are like $4/minute.

bachviet
12-16-2004, 07:50 PM
It probably costs an arm and a leg so no thanks even though it's a very good idea.