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OC
01-05-2005, 07:34 AM
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=%2Fc%2Fa%2F2004%2F12%2F07%2FBAGRFA7H1I1.DTL

Tuesday, December 7, 2004

When he came out of a Contra Costa County Mayors' Conference meeting in Walnut Creek awhile back, Martinez City Councilman Bill Wainwright was surprised to see a ticket on his windshield.

He was even more surprised when he saw what it was for.

Wainwright had been tagged for having too small a car.

Seriously. The city parking lot where he had found a spot has two rows of slots reserved for vehicles 6-foot-5 inches or taller, according to a sign posted in the garage. Wainwright, with his Acura, was too short to park there.

"I'd never heard of that before,'' Wainwright says. "I've heard of cars too big for parking spots, but not too small.''

And so it is in the land of the land yacht. Out here in suburbs we like our lawns green, our shopping malls trendy, and our family transportation in two sizes: big and bigger. Despite dire predictions about drops in sales for full-size pickups and sport utility vehicles as gas climbed to more than $2 per gallon, automotive industry analysts like Haig Stoddard, of the well- regarded Wards Automotive Reports, says the oversize vehicles are as popular as ever.

"Sales are only down 2 percent this year,'' Stoddard says, "that's not much at all.''

Wainwright's experience may be the perfect metaphor for the cars on steroids. Huge SUVs and trucks can be a pain to park. They are too wide to fit between the lines, too long to keep from sticking out in the lane and too tall to see over. Finding a parking place for a giant like that, especially now, during the holiday rush, could discourage an owner from driving a hulking vehicle.

Perhaps they'd get themselves on the waiting list for the one of they new hybrid gas-electric cars that is not only easy to park, but can get up to 60 miles per gallon.

Or, the city could create a special campground for the behemoths where, not only is everything bigger so they can fit, tickets are also issued to those little gas sippers who sneak into the land of the giants.

Now, this isn't a knock on Walnut Creek. As assistant city engineer for traffic, Yun Na Rhee, says the trucks were just too big for the garage. Between the low ceilings and the need to make sharp turns to maneuver the ramps to the upper floors, the big fellows needed a lot all their own.

Would it have been better if there was no place for the big cars to park, leaving the owners to wonder if they should reconsider the size of their ride? Sure. And it would be nice if restaurants served only healthy, low-calorie meals so we'd all live longer, more productive lives.

There's just one problem with that. People prefer delicious, rich food when they go out to eat, and they'd rather drive big, rumbling trucks and SUVs. In fact, for the last three years Americans have purchased more new "light trucks'' -- auto industry-speak for pickups and SUVs -- than passenger cars. And an analyst like Stoddard doesn't see that changing anytime soon.

"I would say in the next 10 years the mainstream vehicle will be something with a hatchback body style,'' he says. "Something where they can carry more and can even get all-wheel drive if they want.''

Now, it should be said that not everyone believes bigger is better. There is a trend toward slightly smaller cars. For example, that rolling pet peeve of environmentalists, the Hummer H2, has seen its sales tailspin, falling off some 20 percent this year. In fact, General Motors will be introducing a smaller, cheaper Hummer, the H3, next year. It will even get as much as 16 miles per gallon, compared with 11 for the H2.

And the hottest style in the market is the CUV (crossover utility vehicle). That's an SUV on Atkins. Cars like the Toyota Rav4 and Honda CRV are built on a frame for a car, not a truck. The result is a somewhat smaller body and a car-like ride that still has the sense of security that comes from wheeling around in a big, burly vehicle. CUVs also have that high perch for the driver's seat, which many owners, especially women, like.

That's another industry trend, by the way. Women are now perfectly comfortable buying a full-size pickup as their primary vehicle. Trucks are no longer just for guys.

What will happen if gas prices continue to climb? Some experts think $3 a gallon is not beyond the realm of possibility. Certainly hybrid cars are in demand. Waiting lists have sprung up at dealerships across the country. But don't forget that some of the hottest hybrids, like the V6 Toyota Highlander, are redesigned CUVs.

"I think if you will notice,'' says Stoddard, "even the mid-size cars are getting longer and taller.''

Give them a little time and they too will be able to park on the first floor of the city lot in Walnut Creek.

E-mail C.W. Nevius at [email protected]

guiseppewv
01-05-2005, 07:52 AM
That is a crock of $hit. I cannot beleive that you can get a ticket for that.

Merlin
01-05-2005, 08:12 AM
I don't have a problem with it as long as it goes the other way. When I see an Explorer or Suburban parked on a compact spot they should get a ticket as well. Especially when I come out and find they they have tried to fit in the spot next to me! :mad:

Make sure there is a place for everyone and everone uses their proper place.

johnnymk
01-05-2005, 08:26 AM
California..land of fruits and nuts

BrewMaster
01-05-2005, 09:40 AM
i agree with Merlin here that it should go both ways then. how often do you see a truck or SUV parked across 2 compact spots in a crowded parking lot? however, it was a govenment lot so they can ticket for whatever they want which is not the case for the local shopping mall. From what the assistant city engineer for traffic said in the article, it sounds like it was for city trucks. If that is the case, mark them for city trucks only. Otherwise, screw the tall vehicles who need higher clearance. I owned a truck for a while and I never had any special parking spots. It's part of owning a truck, you learn to adapt.

guiseppewv
01-05-2005, 10:42 AM
Otherwise, screw the tall vehicles who need higher clearance. I owned a truck for a while and I never had any special parking spots. It's part of owning a truck, you learn to adapt.

:stupid:

I learned to drive in a suburban and there were no special parallel parking spots for me then. You don't need a special spot if you know how to drive.

LPMiller
01-05-2005, 11:56 AM
if you are in a suburban you don't even need an empty space. You can just park on top of the other cars.

DarkFury
01-05-2005, 01:43 PM
Move over little guys and let the big dawg eat... :D :hihi:

SecretIkon
01-05-2005, 01:58 PM
:2far: amazing how you can just get a ticket like that for having to small of a car on a to big of a spot. that really sucks.

bachviet
01-05-2005, 04:03 PM
That is a crock of $hit. I cannot beleive that you can get a ticket for that.
:stupid:

Unless the darn vehicle codes say specificly about fine when parking smaller cars in the "SUV" spaces. I saw plenty of big SUVs/trucks parked in the "Compact Car" spaces and never once saw a ticket on the windshield.

OC
01-05-2005, 04:13 PM
I've begun leaving notes on big vehicles taking up more than one space.

Airencracken
01-05-2005, 05:16 PM
SUV spaces and no special hybrid spaces?!!? Mother****ing bastards!

PowerTech83
01-06-2005, 01:51 AM
I don't have a problem with it as long as it goes the other way. When I see an Explorer or Suburban parked on a compact spot they should get a ticket as well. Especially when I come out and find they they have tried to fit in the spot next to me! :mad:

What about a Honda Accord ? Explorer and Accord has comparable size (189.6 and 189.5 inches long, 72.1 and 71.5 inches wide).. so 0.1inch length difference and 0.6 inch width difference.. and yet, I saw lots of Accord (not to mention the minivans.. ) park in "Small car only" spot.


SUV spaces and no special hybrid spaces?!!? Mother****ing bastards!

Maybe they thought.. SUV burns more gas, so they have to find their parking fast so they would not burn extra gas to find parking.. and Hybrid cars are environmentally friendly that its ok for them to find parking spots a little longer.. hehe just kidding.
I think it's because SUVs' size are bigger than any other cars while Hybrid cars are similar to any other cars in term of size. Cuz parking is all about size.. and hybrids do have privilages on driving in the carpool lane.. so there u go.

Merlin
01-06-2005, 05:16 AM
What about a Honda Accord ? Explorer and Accord has comparable size (189.6 and 189.5 inches long, 72.1 and 71.5 inches wide).. so 0.1inch length difference and 0.6 inch width difference.. and yet, I saw lots of Accord (not to mention the minivans.. ) park in "Small car only" spot.
You're right, other cars have the same footprint as an SUV and they probably need the same clearance to open their doors as well. To answer your question, no, you shouldn't be allowed to park a full sized car (and an Accord is full sized) in a compact spot. If you choose the added luxury and safety of an oversized ride you should also accept that parking will be less available.

I drive a small car, a BMW Z3, and it get my Irish up when I see full size cars parking in spots marked "compact" Not so much because they are taking a spot away from me but because cramming that large car in the small spot really increases the chances of getting door dings. And those things are just plain evil.

Nanotech9
01-06-2005, 12:08 PM
so what is my car?... '91 318is. 2dr.

its smaller than an accord, i think, but larger than a compact... but its only a 2dr, so in the compact my chances of a door ding are higher, but then again, the doors are WAY shorter than say a cougar 2dr.... what a delima.


so now you have th eproblem of where do you put teh SUV parking... if you put it too close too the front door, then they're getting special priviledges almost like handicapped people... but if you put it too far away, then they bitch, especially if they get a ticket for parking in a smaller closer space...

i say, the solution is to make all spaces larger. That way compact and SUV can all park together happily.

oh yeah, and people shold learn to carpool more so there wont be such a big need for parking anyway lol.

DarkFury
01-06-2005, 03:36 PM
i say, the solution is to make all spaces larger. That way compact and SUV can all park together happily.
Then that would piss the merchants off who wanna pack as many vehicles in the parking lot as possible.

I swear... I'm SO happy the HEMI has 90 degree swing out doors in the rear... cause for some of those spaces out there, I'd NEVER get anything into it as small as they make parking spaces these days.

chadlnc
01-06-2005, 07:01 PM
The purpose of the height restriction is probably due to the fact that it was a GARAGE. I assume the further you go into the garage the lower the ceiling gets and the harder it is for tall vehicles to get in and out. Why is it that people see a sign choose to ignore it then whine about the consequences?

bachviet
01-06-2005, 09:36 PM
BTW the Accord is a midsize car not a full size.