Wal-Mart vs Target

[Airencracken]

Interesting Read!

http://www.cockeyed.com/citizen/target/walmart_versus_target01.html

[gear02]

Interesting...the walmarts around me are trashy and nasty and I refuse to go there. I do my shopping at Target.

[RIVERWIDOW]

Interesting...the walmarts around me are trashy and nasty and I refuse to go there. I do my shopping at Target.

I, on the otherhand, used to live in Target until Wally World game to town.
Big disadvantage to Target, they do not have layaway. At Christmas I put undies and socks on layaway at Wal-mart for all kids and grandkids. I usually save at least $20.00 buying there. While K-mart charges for layaways ,at Wal-mart they are free. Your little experiment only proved to me that Wal-Mart is the winner because there wasn't a big enough price difference when there is a big convenience factor. But don't tell my husband, He hates that non-union w word. :wavey2:

[ski]

Just curious, what is layaway? I have an impression that it's where you don't pay for it all up front, but when you said you pay for socks on layaway, that makes me think otherwise...

[sizemic1]

Just curious, what is layaway? I have an impression that it's where you don't pay for it all up front, but when you said you pay for socks on layaway, that makes me think otherwise...

You're right..you just make payments for an item until it's paid for, then you get to take it home.

[chrissy]

He isn't taking into concideration Target clearance shopping :D

I am breaking the habit... slowly. I only go if I am in need of the said item instead of filling my cart full of crap I don't need. Especially toys. My kids have toys they never played with. Donation barrels love me.

But yeah, go in there on anyday, any of those items can be had for 30-75% off the reg. price. But you have to know when and where to look.

[RIVERWIDOW]

He isn't taking into concideration Target clearance shopping :D

I am breaking the habit... slowly. I only go if I am in need of the said item instead of filling my cart full of crap I don't need. Especially toys. My kids have toys they never played with. Donation barrels love me.

But yeah, go in there on anyday, any of those items can be had for 30-75% off the reg. price. But you have to know when and where to look.

You are speaking to the queen of clearance sales! :wavey2: But Target just doesn't have the sales they used to have. Which is another reason why I am slowly switching from target to Wal-mart and Kohl's. And the reason I put socks & undies on layaway is I can buy them in Sept. and by Dec 15th everything is paid for. Not one big bill all at once.

[blueindian]

I am breaking the habit... slowly.

do you still work at walmart?

[Nija]

We don't support Wal-Mart. End of discussion :)

[IrishSS]

Interesting...the walmarts around me are trashy and nasty and I refuse to go there. I do my shopping at Target.

:stupid:

Add in the fact that Wal-Mart is driving out all the small businesses in the communities where they set up shop and their pricing guidelines for suppliers (read below) and I almost refuse to shop there.

As for the pricing guidelines...

I used to work at a small, independently owned fruit cannery. We had a small niche in the quality fruit we provided to grocery and speciality stores, but one of our sales people thought it would be a good idea to get in with Wal-Mart. The details that follow are not all the terms and conditions, but some of the most glaring.

To be a Wal-Mart supplier, you have to meet certain conditions.

All the goods you supply to Wal-Mart must be at a lower price than any other retailer you currently supply to.
You must sign a 5-year supply contract with Wal-Mart.
Starting with year 2, and every 6 months after, you must lower the price of your item from the original selling price by some % (I forgot exact number).
If a competitor lowers their price below Wal-Marts buying point, you must lower your price to x% below the new price.
And so on and so forth.

Wal-Mart will not only drive out any other competitors, they will eventually destroy suppliers as well, starting with the smaller ones obviously. Wal-Mart is nearly the only place left to shop in my area (there is one Target, comapred to at least 5 Wal-Marts within 20 or so miles).

I refuse to support this establishment... unfortunately, there isn't enough people like me to force Wal-Mart to do anything. :rolleyes:

[bachviet]

My wife really hates Wal-Mart because the stores around us are not clean and/or organized. She prefers shopping at Targets.

[LegendKiller]

I try, at any costs, to avoid ghetto mart. Their stores are trashy, their prices aren't that much cheaper on 99% of the stuff I buy, and in some cases are higher.

[GracieBayb]

My wife really hates Wal-Mart because the stores around us are not clean and/or organized. She prefers shopping at Targets.

:stupid: i find that at target it is MUCH easier to find what you're looking for, or at least find an employee who is willing to help you out. at walmart, if you flag down an employee, they look at you like they're about to butcher you

[chrissy]

You are speaking to the queen of clearance sales! :wavey2: But Target just doesn't have the sales they used to have. Which is another reason why I am slowly switching from target to Wal-mart and Kohl's. And the reason I put socks & undies on layaway is I can buy them in Sept. and by Dec 15th everything is paid for. Not one big bill all at once.

No, they don't. And the employees are stingy with the information too. I love Kohl's :D


do you still work at walmart?

No. I stopped working there in Dec 2003 a few months prior to Patrick being born. I can't even stand going into the store I used to work at -- and it's right across the street from the base. I will drive 5 miles down to get to a WM now. I will shop there for specifics -- cat food is the major one. Our cats will poo on the floor if we feed them anything but this one brand and it just happens to be the one brand that only WM carries. :rolleyes:

[Airencracken]

I hate wal-mart (see occupation, Teamster) but sometimes it's the only choice. I shop there as little as possible.

[PiPhiAngel]

My wife really hates Wal-Mart because the stores around us are not clean and/or organized. She prefers shopping at Targets.

:stupid:

i also have started to really like the brands that are only sold at target as well like isaac mizrahi, michael graves and simply shabby-- they have started to sell household and home decor items with cute, novel designs.

[Airencracken]

:stupid:

Your wife hates wal-mart.


Wow that's hot. :drool:

[DarkFury]

Honestly, Wal-Mart is just more convenient for me to shop at...

Wally World just recently built one of their "Marketplace Grocery Stores" right down the street from my house... and pretty much it is WAY more convenient (and cheaper) to go to this shop rather than drive like 10 mins to the nearest Kroger (fairly reasonable) or March (too expensive) grocery store.

On top of that... there are 2 "Super Wal-Marts" within a 15 minute drive of my house... which combines the grocery and the general merchandise. Pretty much these also maximize my convenience.

The closest Target to me is like 15 mins away... however it is not in my normal travel path so going there would be additional hassle.

On top of everything else... Target tends to have more "trendy" items than Wally World... and honestly I'm just not really into that stuff. I do find some nice things at Target, but overall, Wal-Mart just covers more bases for me more thoroughly.

My only real complaint about the Super Wally Worlds is that they are so crowded at times and they NEVER have all 32 lanes open to check out customers and I do hate just wasting time standing in line... however saving money and the convenience factor really outweigh that one downside for me.

[AmRivlin]

Well, I must say, Walmart started their supercentre craze in the midwest when I was about 10. For the first month it was shinny and had great selection, with their always falling prices... I swear you need a helmet in that place (OSHA anyone).

After a month, the place became a cess pool. My community the average income is $45k, not too shabby for a middle class area. Anyway the communities 10-20 miles from this walmart arent as affluent, and have infested the walmart. The entrance has become a large ashtray, the employees while lovely seem to have lost some teeth in the past few years, barefoot customers.

Tarjeh on the other hand... is Walmart in disguise... Nothing is different except Target markets to a different clintel. Look at the TV ads, Target wants to be a gap even tho they are a discount store. Walmart ads market towards teenagers and families on a strict budget, even tho when u come in they try to sell you tons of crap you dont want.

I shop at both places, normally whichever is easier to drive to... The Target here does not carry groceries - B sized store... Walmart however is a SuperA (Biggest in USA, for 2 months) But I hate big box retailers, they cut down on the mom and pop shops and drive our view of society into big parking lots you have to drive to no matter what. For a mom and pop grocery you can walk or drive, what walmart have you ever seen someone walk to... They put huge fences up and long drives with sidewalks no one will ever use. Then everyone has to drive that bloody SUV and Hummer, because they wont have as much status with the other moms on the lot, and to hold all the **** we don't need in our house. WALMART AND TARJEH ARE ****ING UP OUR LIFESTYLES.

[PiPhiAngel]

Your wife hates wal-mart.


Wow that's hot. :drool:

hahah...yes...my imaginary wife.

[Nija]

hahah...yes...my imaginary wife.
do you have imaginary lesbien sex with her too?
:lick: :drool:

[gear02]

Yeah, see I have a choice since they're right next to each other and since my walmart is like dirt (both in terms of cleaniless and employees) I choose Target. At least I know where stuff is there.

So, the question becomes if you had a target and a walmart side by side, assuming they're both clean and nice, which would you pick?

I would still pick Target, because of Walmart's labor policy and other things. Walmart may be cheaper, but I would gladly pay $2-5 per $100 more (which is about right in my experience) to Target.

[RIVERWIDOW]

I hate wal-mart (see occupation, Teamster) but sometimes it's the only choice. I shop there as little as possible.

My husband is retired Retail Clerk (local135) so as you can guess, he hates Wal-mart. We have agreed to disagree and I will not buy anything that I would normally buy at Vons. I mostly buy things for my grandkids and craft stuff there. I just don't mention the W word at home and everyone is happy.
I don't understand why so many large malls are allowing wm to move into their space. Here in el Cajon, they just built one at Parkway Plaza and as far as I am concerned they have trailer trashed the whole mall. And before anyone gets uppity :boxing: I live in a senior mobile home park. So I am not dissing all parks just the trashy ones. :cheers:

[PiPhiAngel]

do you have imaginary lesbien sex with her too?
:lick: :drool:

:gle:

[BrewMaster]

:stupid:

Add in the fact that Wal-Mart is driving out all the small businesses in the communities where they set up shop and their pricing guidelines for suppliers (read below) and I almost refuse to shop there.

As for the pricing guidelines...

I used to work at a small, independently owned fruit cannery. We had a small niche in the quality fruit we provided to grocery and speciality stores, but one of our sales people thought it would be a good idea to get in with Wal-Mart. The details that follow are not all the terms and conditions, but some of the most glaring.

To be a Wal-Mart supplier, you have to meet certain conditions.

All the goods you supply to Wal-Mart must be at a lower price than any other retailer you currently supply to.
You must sign a 5-year supply contract with Wal-Mart.
Starting with year 2, and every 6 months after, you must lower the price of your item from the original selling price by some % (I forgot exact number).
If a competitor lowers their price below Wal-Marts buying point, you must lower your price to x% below the new price.
And so on and so forth.

Wal-Mart will not only drive out any other competitors, they will eventually destroy suppliers as well, starting with the smaller ones obviously. Wal-Mart is nearly the only place left to shop in my area (there is one Target, comapred to at least 5 Wal-Marts within 20 or so miles).

I refuse to support this establishment... unfortunately, there isn't enough people like me to force Wal-Mart to do anything. :rolleyes:


looks like they took a page straight from the automotive industry.

no walmart for me. their stores suck and target is closer to the house. i've shopped at walmart only 3 times in my life (once being in Akron, OH when my luggage was lost and they were the only place open). Never again will I shop at walmart.

[TofuNinja]

man I hate Wal Mart and shop there as little as possible, like many of you have said. I wish, really wish they would not sell fish... their tanks are nasty and they really do not know what they are doing.... atleast the ones in So Cal. Most of the Wal Marts I have been in have more dead fish in their tanks than live.... also their brand of pet food is one of the worst out there. It is basically junk food. But what can you do....

[ialsohaveadream]

Yeah, see I have a choice since they're right next to each other and since my walmart is like dirt (both in terms of cleaniless and employees) I choose Target. At least I know where stuff is there.

So, the question becomes if you had a target and a walmart side by side, assuming they're both clean and nice, which would you pick?
I'd go with Target. Back when I was college-student poor, I shopped at Wal-Mart all the time, both because I could shop at 3 a.m., and because I was Ramen Noodle poor.

Now that I've got the money to choose otherwise, I've been avoiding Wal-Mart, unless it's after 10 p.m. and I have something I urgently need to get.

Adding to the many reasons people have already pointed out for passing by Wal-Mart is the fact that since they sell so much volume, and don't close, they're constantly restocking the store. You end up having to steer through crowded aisles with mounds of inventory just sitting between the shelves. It gets way too frustrating.

[chrissy]

man I hate Wal Mart and shop there as little as possible, like many of you have said. I wish, really wish they would not sell fish... their tanks are nasty and they really do not know what they are doing.... atleast the ones in So Cal. Most of the Wal Marts I have been in have more dead fish in their tanks than live.... also their brand of pet food is one of the worst out there. It is basically junk food. But what can you do....

Honestly, two things.

Report it to the regional and home office. And report it to the nearest Vet (usually you will find his/her info in the pet dept posted somewhere).

In order to have pets, they have to get a Vet to associate with the store. The vet also has to be within a certain mile radius. 2837(my old store) didn't have a vet in radius, so we didn't have fish. If you let the vet know what is happening, he will pull his info in the majority of the times. And the fish will have to go.

And when it comes to WM and the rollbacks, you will see every weekday morning, dept mgrs marking things down. When buyers get to buy at a lower price (refer back to IrishSS), that is a rollback. IF the next time they have to purchase, the price goes up, the rollback will come off that item and will be marked back up. I have seen this happen within a week of the markdown.
You will also see it when ads come out.

I love WM's ad. It has absoultely no sales in it whatsoever! People come in thinking that they HAVE to buy it that day or week. And they don't. That ad has nothing but their everyday prices in it. the only thing you have to watch is the Special buys. Those are a limited amount to each store and not a reg. item.

[Hypnotist]

What's your time and sanity (or should I say sanitation) worth... ?

The Target experience - :)
Comfortable access~well merchandised~clean and attractive environment~SHORT CHECK-OUT LINES!

In the context of previous posts and their described business practices...
The Up Against the Wal-Mart experience - :toxic: narrow, crowded and often fully blocked aisles (unattended ladders... what the?!?)~since the remodels nationwide to the "SuperCenter" plan they no longer EVEN ask if you found everything allright... they already know the answer~scattered, misplaced, unmarked, toys to trip over on the floor merchandising~ajax scoured to the drywall and hand-towels sticking to the bottom of your shoes bathroom facilities~No exaggeration-80 customers awaiting checkout on THREE open registers BRING A LAWN CHAIR CHECK-OUT LINES!

And then the kicker, or should I say slicker (and this is always a crowd pleaser), the used disposable diapers strategically placed throughout the parking lot as an added "step-lively" and olfactory bonus, especially on hot summer days in El Paso, TX!...................To "save" 4.1%?!?.................. What's your mind space Worth?

[Jane83]

i like target...better than walmart for sure...
plus target commercials are awesome

[cheapie]

as of last night, i now am anti-WM. i have very good friends that are in the greenhouse/nursery business. they sell potted plants to a local co-op and to retailers like home depot, lowe's, target, k-mart, and wal-mart.

guess what wal-mart just told them. all the plants they take will be on consignment. if they don't sell, my friends don't get paid. wtf is that? how can you, in good conscience force a vendor to sell item on consignment that are perishable and have a short shelf-life. it's not like they can send them back. if they don't sell, they die!

****ing wal-mart. and guess how much leverage my friends have...sigh....

[kimchicowboy]

there really were not walmarts in a convenient location when i lived in LA. neither was target, but it was closer. target DOES seem cleaner too (as others have mentioned.

[LegendKiller]

Anybody else think Walmart should put a minimum IQ floor on the self-checkout lines? The few times I go there (3 times in the past 2 years) the morons just can't figure it out. Buncha slackjawed knuckle dragging maroons

[Merlin]

.... Buncha slackjawed knuckle dragging maroons
That is one of my big pet peeves with it. I've always been a city dweller and as such have only had limited exposure to Wal Marts. But each time it is the same thing....a run down store filled with red necks. The stores themselves look like something you would expect to find in the third world. Just plain worn out and dirty. And the customers there - yikes! Looks like the trailer park's favorite days trip with the kids is to Wal Mart. They may be a little chaeper but I'll pay extra not to have to deal with those people. For me a trip to Wal Mart requires a shower afterward.

But as for their business parctices....I for one don't think it is too bad for them to require their suppliers to continually lower prices. Over time and with their volume you should be able to get better and more efficient at making it. The world is competitive and you need to keep getting better to thrive in it. The other stuff like promising to give them the best price and the like sounds tough but it really not enforcable. Selling plants on consignment is a bad deal. It really provides the company with no real incentive to best market your plants. If your friend sells into all of their competitors then they probably have more leverage than he knows. But it is still hard to tell a potentially big customer to go pound sand.

When I need something I actually don't mind going to Target for it. The parking lot can be a bit of a drag (stupid mini vans just wantering up and down the rows looking for a spot only 10 friggin feet closer) but once inside I can usually get what I need quickly and get out pretty fast.

[Airencracken]

Timeout given for baiting.

[cheapie]

No need for that kind of comment anymore. Read the rules. Come back in 24 hours and play nice.

--Got Apex Moderator

[AmRivlin]

Yes walmarts attract the lower eschelon of people, but what do you expect... They aren't going to shop at Nordstroms. Walmart has a 10-15 year life on their buildings for enhancement, and basically to make it new... Sounds good right?

WRONG

This means they will just box out some new corn field, or some new swath of forest. I am not a green freak, but now we just wasted perfectly new land so these market undercutters can build the "Super GroceryWorld Homeland Giant Walmart Plus Centre"... Ok you say, now Walmart has enhanced facilities larger parking lot, and new jobs... WRONG again, except for building it, they hire less employees (According to a bulliten I read negative to our new supercentre here.

So ok great new building! What happens to the old one... Firstly Walmart leases their properties, some of the older ones they didn't, but now if I am correct now they lease. So now some guy is left with the remnants of a dump. The parking lot has the most traffic of any retailer and is most likely resembling Bagdads runway, all the satelite shops and strip vendors packup andd leave (The Walmart draw is gone)... So now what option does he have, yea Big Lots, or Dollar General... And while both chains are growing, they don't pump money into new shelving and tile... they replace a few bulbs and move merchandise in. So now these vendors get a bad wrap for looking worse than Walmart... As the walmarts get larger and larger to sell more things we DO NOT NEED, then their resalability plummets.

As for IQ levels... it is like working at McDonalds people. Who in the SAM HECK, wants to work at a Walmart. So more cream of the crop... Anyway back a few years ago the treasury pushed the dollar coins on the tills at walmart as part of the marketing... I was getting all kinds of those coins. I went in early 2004, and paid in a few of those, and was give weird looks, and asked if I could pay in "normal" money... Ok sorry I make it that much harder on your sack of sh|t life to take some gold coins and count them at the end of the day so you can earn your 7.50 an hour. (Sorry I am not trying to stab at anyone who works there, but that ticked me off.)

So from my 2 posts you can tell I HATE WALMART, but I am a hipocrit and shop there 10 times a year.... or more. My mother, shops probably 1x a week. But I prefer not driving or shopping, making me a strange fit...

I am studying city planning and I think that Walmarts are used in bedroom communities to spur growth, they bring a lot of commerce to communities, but what is the cost...

I did read, WalMart is out of control, they have reached a size where financial management is no longer profitable... They have so much hiearchy in their system to manage the business, it is cutting into profit margins... Sounds like the Ceasar Walmart is losing control

AND IF YOU ARE A WALMART EXEC, and you own the KC Royals... why the F! can't you put some money into their payroll so when they beat Detroit it isnt like a world series victory to them (Did anyone see the replay last night LOL, going crazy on a 6-5 walk off home run, like they just won the pennant)

[LegendKiller]

as are you


Knock it off cheapie

[OC]

I don't shop at Wal-Mart because I think their business practices are, at best, underhanded. I've read far too many stories about their employee and supplier relations for me to feel good about giving them my money.

As to the quality of their customers - I don't want to lump them all together. Many who shop there are no doubt simply trying to run a household on a budget and are attracted by the low prices and vast selection. By the same token, those same low prices are going to attract another element of society who would, shall we say, look out of place in more expensive stores.

[Jenny]

We shop at Walmart all the time, simply because it's a hell of a lot cheaper than anywhere else here and at this point, that's what we need.

[ialsohaveadream]

As to the quality of their customers - I don't want to lump them all together. Many who shop there are no doubt simply trying to run a household on a budget and are attracted by the low prices and vast selection. By the same token, those same low prices are going to attract another element of society who would, shall we say, look out of place in more expensive stores.
:stupid: I'm not going to rag on the customers there. Like I said, I've been one. A whole lot of them are poor, and I'm sure they'd love to shop at higher-end places, but when they can save $30-$40 on their grocery bill at Wal-Mart every two weeks, that's huge (again...speaking from experience).

Still, now that I can stay away, I do.

[AmRivlin]

Where did I just come from?

Wally's
Oil change 19.94
Carrots 1.99
Shrooms 2.99
Tomatoes 2.99 (IMPULSE Purchase)
Salad 1.50x2
apple juice 1.89 (IMPULSE Purchase)
Popsicles ??? (IMPULSE Purchase)
Ice Cream 2.74 (IMPULSE Purchase)

Whahoo... I hate it, but it is nice.

[PiPhiAngel]

there isn't a walmart in irvine, nor is there one anywhere close to where my parents live, so i can't say too much about it since i have only been there about 2 or 3 times. there was talk about building a target in my city a few years ago where my parents live, but the residents here got angry and protested against it saying that it would lower the value of their homes and bring in the types of people that regularly shop at places like target (like myself). i thought it would be pretty convenient if they could have one our city, but now i drive about 20 miles to get my shopping done at target...i hate having to drive.

and guess where i just got back from?

$9.99 for cuuute hawaiian beach towels!

[INeedAVacation]

We don't support Wal-Mart. End of discussion :)

I agree!! (but did I even need to say that or does my signature give me away?)

Interesting link

Walmart Sucks (http://www.teamster.org/divisions/warehouse/walmart/walmartworkersunite.asp)

[welfareloser]

the blackfoot tribe shops at walmart.







(them'd be barefoot rednecks :P )

[RIVERWIDOW]

the blackfoot tribe shops at walmart.

(them'd be barefoot rednecks :P )

Oh man you are going to hear about this one. But i thought it was pretty dang funny. :cheers:

[OC]

the blackfoot tribe shops at walmart.

(them'd be barefoot rednecks :P )Hock some of that stuff in the basement and git them kids some moccasins!

[AmRivlin]

http://community-2.webtv.net/@HH!D9!7F!D3FCF4301E7E/barefootrob/GoingBarefoot/scrapbookFiles/importD15.jpg

[INeedAVacation]

Incidentally, it's so nice to hear so many people who are aware of the abuse Walmart causes to communities as well as to their employees. :disa:

[Hoser]

There's supposed to be a Super Walmart opening about a mile from here. So the Walmart just down the street will close, leaving a big empty building that probably won't be filled in the near future. Originally it wasn't going to be built because the people in the area wouldn't approve it. Then a miracle happened and now people want it built. I think some money changed hands somewhere. There are some people that want the this to be determined by the state supreme court. I would think that it could be handled at a much lower legal level.

They (Walmart) always say how many jobs they'll provide and how much taxes will be generated without looking at any negative aspects of their presence. A lot of new houses are being built right across from the proposed site. I know I wouldn't want a house there. The traffic already increases every year without any new development. When everything is finished (if it happens) the traffic is going to be unbelievable.

[INeedAVacation]

With true statistics like these http://aflcio.org/corporateamerica/walmart/walmart_1.cfm
being realized by more and more people every day, I think it really wakes people up to see how the WalMonster is so destructive to America.

[welfareloser]

With true statistics like these http://aflcio.org/corporateamerica/walmart/walmart_1.cfm
being realized by more and more people every day, I think it really wakes people up to see how the WalMonster is so destructive to America.

and there's one going up about half a mile from my house *sigh* even though there's a HUGE one - and almost clean! - just 3 miles away in the center of town(s). the homeowners have fought it tooth and nail, but lost, of course...

[GraingerGuy]

My only real complaint about the Super Wally Worlds is that they are so crowded at times and they NEVER have all 32 lanes open to check out customers and I do hate just wasting time standing in line... however saving money and the convenience factor really outweigh that one downside for me.

1. Is it REALLY that much more convient if you have to wait in line for a long time? :)

2. I'm really surprised that Cheesy hasn't posted in this thread. He is really outspoken against Wal-mart.

3. I shop there as little as possible. One, because I don't support their business practices, and two I just am not impressed with the cleanliness of the place.

[DarkFury]

1. Is it REALLY that much more convient if you have to wait in line for a long time? :)

2. I'm really surprised that Cheesy hasn't posted in this thread. He is really outspoken against Wal-mart.

3. I shop there as little as possible. One, because I don't support their business practices, and two I just am not impressed with the cleanliness of the place.
1. Yes.. my time in line is worth more than the gas I'd have to spend going further to Target. Plus I like the selection better at Wally World and the Target nearest me don't have groceries. :D

[GracieBayb]

hahah...yes...my imaginary wife.
i'm so hurt janice... i'm not imaginary!! :hihi:

[ShawnLee]

Here I am! Off to Wal-Mart! Oh noes!

[INeedAVacation]

Here I am! Off to Wal-Mart! Oh noes!
:disa:

[Showtime]

I am going to one of those places today. I need fabric softner and those anti static dryer thingies and stuff. Thanks for reminding me. Time to write a list.

-j