American Idol

[RIVERWIDOW]

Is anyone else out there watching this new edition of American Idol? Are you as bewildered as I am that Scott Savol is still hanging on? He is so bad I just don't understand who is voting for him. It is like a flashback to last year only its a fat White guy this time. I am voting my little heart out for Bo Bice. Carrie is okay, Anthony sucks and Vonzell is okay. Constantine sucks AND :cool: needs to wash and comb his hair. What do you think?

[mcs328]

I think the guys are much better than the girls.

[RIVERWIDOW]

I think the guys are much better than the girls.


I totally agree. I think the 6 boys ,6 girls was very unfair to the guys. Some of the guys that went home were way better than some of the girls that stayed. Prime example:Michaela. I know they try to make it politically correct but its giving the girls an unfair edge. :cheers: I can't wait to see who wins I hope its Bo but i think he will do okay whether he wins or not. Like Clay Aiken. :)

[sbp]

From the very start of this season the guys have been stronger than the girls. Now the numbers are showing 2 girls and 4 guys left, although 2 of the guys should be the ones to depart in the next 2 weeks.

None of the performers did bad on Tuesday despite it being disco week. :ugh:

Yeah it was a shock to see the talented gentleman Anwar Robinson get the boot instead of Anthony Federov and the Scott Savol. Simon Crowell foretold the bottom three and when he spoke of Robinson's rendition of Earth, Wind and Fire's "September" not being a winning performance. My view is Robinson should have gone further and gotten into the top 5, though he wouldn't have won the competition.

Earlier this season I remarked to someone that while Robinson was having decent performances, he was relying on the last hitted note to put him over the top, instead of that note being the cherry on top of a good consistent performance.

Scott Savol is a marginal talent that should have been removed already.

During the initial audition Savol seemed like a decent guy that deserved going to Hollywood. Over time I grew disenchanted with the tubster and want the stuck on himself guy to be voted off already.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A51776-2005Apr13.html
During the performance show the night before, Savol had complained that he didn't see why Bice and Constantine Maroulis were cast as the show's rockers when he was the real rocker. Then he gave judge Simon Cowell a boatload of attitude, after which he nicked viewers by boasting that there were millions out there who hadn't the nerve to do what he was doing. {"I'm up here and there's, like, millions of people at home who didn't have the nerve to do this," Savol said.) Characteristically, last night he raced past Bo and Nadia when he found out he was "safe," without so much as a wave or a "have an apple."

Its not bewildering why Savol lingers on to annoy, sometimes the voting public doesn't get it right. But its about more than that, its about getting backing from groups of people that will keep voting for a performer no matter how he/she does. As an example, last season there were a couple younguns that hung on well past their expiration date {the crooning Conan O'Brien lookalike and Jasmine Trias who was getting the "hey we are in our own timezone so the phone lines are clear" Hawaiian contingent and the teenybopper vote}.

Other thoughts: I am surprised to see the two rockers having done so well and also thought they might nullify each other out for votes. Would be something to see the two rockers be the final two.

Predications: Scott Savol needs to immediately go. Anthony Federov will shortly depart the show. Carrie is adequate, won't win. As for Constantine-he is a rocker and that explains the hair. No, Constantine is not the greatest talent there, but he is charismatic.

My favorite to win the competition: Bo Bice. He's got the experience and seems to have it. Like you said RIVERWIDOW even if he doesn't become the American Idol, he'll do fine.

Final comment: Paula Abdul is useless, but what else is new. "You did great even when you really didn't." Oh, please! Then she has the nerve to lead boos against Simon Crowell who is the real star of the show with those cutting quips.

[RIVERWIDOW]

No way should Anwar be gone before Scott or Anthony. Of course I am still trying to figure out how Ruben Studderd won last year. I think Scott needs to be gone real soon. He is slowly but surely showing his true colors and BAD attitude. He is so arrogant and I still can't figure out what he thinks he has to be arrogant about. I think the final 2 will be Bo & Carrie. Bo, to me, :cheers: just seems to have the most talent.

[DarkFury]

No way should Anwar be gone before Scott or Anthony. Of course I am still trying to figure out how Ruben Studderd won last year. I think Scott needs to be gone real soon. He is slowly but surely showing his true colors and BAD attitude. He is so arrogant and I still can't figure out what he thinks he has to be arrogant about. I think the final 2 will be Bo & Carrie. Bo, to me, :cheers: just seems to have the most talent.
For your info... FANTASIA won last year.

:shrug: (must be a Clay fan :D )

[Jenny]

Yeah and she shouldn't have. :P I'm sure RW meant the year before last. ;)

[RIVERWIDOW]

Yeah and she shouldn't have. :P I'm sure RW meant the year before last. ;)

You are right. I forgot Fantasia. And yes I am a Clay fan . I'm old. time flies when you're having fun. :wavey2: But I 'm still trying to figure it out. I see in today's news that Constantine's band is releasing a CD on May 10th I think it was. He, of course , won't be able to tour with his group. :)

[eSDee]

Fantasia is an incredible singer. I heard her sing the Star Spangled Banner at some basketball game shortly after she won, and I don't know if I have ever heard it sung better. She is amazing.

[Jenny]

Well, all I know is she guest-starred & sang this season on AI and I dunno, it's just maybe a personal feeling, cause I hated her voice. :shrug:

[oblongmelon]

bo is sssssssssupersexy!!!!!! that savol guy reminds me of the crazy guy in full metal jacket. i agree about constantine-hes gross,greasy and he always makes that stupid pouty face that,plus the fact he cant sing and wore girly makeup on his eyes on disco nite makes me dislike him even more.

[RIVERWIDOW]

bo is sssssssssupersexy!!!!!! that savol guy reminds me of the crazy guy in full metal jacket. i agree about constantine-hes gross,greasy and he always makes that stupid pouty face that,plus the fact he cant sing and wore girly makeup on his eyes on disco nite makes me dislike him even more.

I think what I like about Bo so much is that he is so at ease with the whole AI thing. Its like if he wins okay but if he doesn't thats okay too. He is just really being himself and he's all relaxed and it makes him that much more likable. I also was not sold on Fantasia. She was okay but not ,I think, as good as Clay or Kelly Clarkson. :cheers:

[DarkFury]

I think what I like about Bo so much is that he is so at ease with the whole AI thing. Its like if he wins okay but if he doesn't thats okay too. He is just really being himself and he's all relaxed and it makes him that much more likable. I also was not sold on Fantasia. She was okay but not ,I think, as good as Clay or Kelly Clarkson. :cheers:
Honestly, in season 1... Kelly is lucky that America voted out Tamyra Gray who probably could have won it... "Sideshow Bob" really wasn't a strong "second place" challenger...

And Clay... well... "give my regards to broadway"... but he just really isn't a "pop" star to me.

Either way... I don't even watch AI anymore... everyone is generally biased in what they like to hear therefore there is always gonna be someone who is disappointed in who actually wins... Kinda like the same reason I don't like most music and movie award shows.

[RIVERWIDOW]

Honestly, in season 1... Kelly is lucky that America voted out Tamyra Gray who probably could have won it... "Sideshow Bob" really wasn't a strong "second place" challenger...

And Clay... well... "give my regards to broadway"... but he just really isn't a "pop" star to me.

Either way... I don't even watch AI anymore... everyone is generally biased in what they like to hear therefore there is always gonna be someone who is disappointed in who actually wins... Kinda like the same reason I don't like most music and movie award shows.

Acutally, I think also that everyone's favorites are picked by the type of music they sing best. I like Sinatra, Johnny Mathis etc so It figures I would like Clay.
I was in hight school in the late 60's so I lean more toward Bo. I am not into rap, hip-hop or heavy metal so anyone who sings along those lines I don't like. The one exception is Carrie. I listen to mostly Country but she just doesn't do it for me. I like Vonzell better. I am what I guess you would call an easy music listener. As for Scott he just SUCKS! :puke:

[DarkFury]

Acutally, I think also that everyone's favorites are picked by the type of music they sing best. I like Sinatra, Johnny Mathis etc so It figures I would like Clay.
I was in hight school in the late 60's so I lean more toward Bo. I am not into rap, hip-hop or heavy metal so anyone who sings along those lines I don't like. The one exception is Carrie. I listen to mostly Country but she just doesn't do it for me. I like Vonzell better. I am what I guess you would call an easy music listener. As for Scott he just SUCKS! :puke:

To each, his or her own I suppose... :shrug:

[RIVERWIDOW]

To each, his or her own I suppose... :shrug:


That is what makes the world go round :cheers:

[booboo22]

Can't believe Scott made it over Constantine!! What are you people listening to out there because I'm not hearing the same thing out of Scott's mouth apparently that you are!! Let's get with it and get him out of there!!

[LPMiller]

it's more that Const really did suck that badly.

[LegendKiller]

it's more that Const really did suck that badly.


Yeah, you can't go and sing a Nickleback song and choke that horribly. This voice isn't very powerful, how can he claim to be a rocker if he can't even get a hard edge to his voice.

The russian kid sang pretty well, scott should be booted beforre him.

[LPMiller]

I hated cons with a passion of a thousand burning suns.

[RIVERWIDOW]

I hated cons with a passion of a thousand burning suns.

Now, that would be the way I feel about Scott. He just always has such a :stupid: sneer on his face. When Tues. nite Simon said "I think you should pack your bags" Scott looked at Simon with a f**k you look on his face. I just think he sucks beyond words. I think the final 3 will be ,Bo Carrie & Vonzell. Scott is like the poor mans Rueben Studdard. Trailer Trash! and he hits girls! :puke:


Can't believe Scott made it over Constantine!! What are you people listening to out there because I'm not hearing the same thing out of Scott's mouth apparently that you are!! Let's get with it and get him out of there!!

I'm with you Booboo. Lets run his ugly mug out of town! :cheers:

[hapoo]

I liked constantine! I can't believe he got kicked off (although the last performance DID suck)
I have no problem with scott, but the people i can't stand are Carrie and Anthony. Anthony should have been kicked off a LOOOOOOOOOOONG time ago, and Carrie just gets on my last nerve.

[Jenny]

I like Carrie a lot. I think Bo should win, tho. I liked Cons, altho his vocals weren't as strong as the others. i don't mind Scott's vocals, but his attitude ruins is for me. He is NOT an IDOL, which is part of what the show is about. Like RW said, he hits women. Is he REALLY someone we want our children to idolize? :disa:

[LPMiller]

Cons always eye F***'d the camera. It drove me nuts. And he would always to half assed "I'm a Rocker Too!" moves that bo just does better. He's a 6 month flash in the pan as far as talent goes. He's a punk. He's.....he's.....GARRRRRGHHGHGHGHGGHGHGHGH!@!!!!

[brainsmile]

he won't be a star

[hapoo]

Cons always eye F***'d the camera. It drove me nuts. And he would always to half assed "I'm a Rocker Too!" moves that bo just does better. He's a 6 month flash in the pan as far as talent goes. He's a punk. He's.....he's.....GARRRRRGHHGHGHGHGGHGHGHGH!@!!!!


you'd think the guy stuck his microphone up your ass :hmm:

[mcs328]

Constatine wasn't doing very well vocally I thought the last few times. And there's only so much sexing up the camera I could stand...such BS. Oh well he's out.

[RIVERWIDOW]

Constantine was just on Regis & Kelly and once again he sucked. :puke: His hair looked like it hadn't seen a brush or shampoo in weeks! But I still think he is better then Scott. I hope that Scott is gone this week. If he isn't I have to wonder about the people who are voting for him. :bandit:

[oblongmelon]

BO BO BO... the new idol-it's in the bag for him-2 good songs in one night

[nickel]

BO BO BO... the new idol-it's in the bag for him-2 good songs in one night
:thumb:

yes...i am all for Bo, too!

Scott needs to soooooooo gooooooo!

[RIVERWIDOW]

BO BO BO... the new idol-it's in the bag for him-2 good songs in one night

:sing: I totally agree. :bow: Its his to lose. The good news is that at this point even if we get a white Rueben (Scott) as a winner Bo will still do well. I think its Bullsh*t that people are voting for Scott because they think he is the worst. Although I do have to say he was better then Anthony Last night. But he is a big 0 when it comes to personality. He is a Karoake singer not an IDOL :thud:

[RIVERWIDOW]

:cheers: Ding, Dong the pig is gone. At last, Scott got the boot. If all things go right, the next one to be shown the door is Anthony. I am so excited it almost makes me think I should take up drinking. :woohoo:

[Devhux]

.....and let the conspiracy theories begin.

Anyone who saw the ABC special "Fallen Idol" would know what I mean. Feel free to comment on this if you have seen it.

(This IS related to American Idol, so I'm thinking it can be discussed here).

[nickel]

.....and let the conspiracy theories begin.

Anyone who saw the ABC special "Fallen Idol" would know what I mean. Feel free to comment on this if you have seen it.

(This IS related to American Idol, so I'm thinking it can be discussed here).
didn't see it.. what conspiracy?

so glad Scott is gone, and yes, next should be Anthony. then any of the 3 deserve to win.

[Jenny]

I didn't see it but I read that apparently Paula had a relationship with (slept with) a guy in the Top 12 (who got booted out because he forgot to tell them he'd been arrested for beating up his sister or something... Wait, why didn't Scott get booted out this season? Grrr. Anyway) of season 2. Gave him tips, favored him, etc.

and YAY! I was freaking out when he sent Anthony & Scott to the couch. But when Bo stayed up on stage rather than the couch, I knew what was going on. heh Whew!

[attgig]

I didn't see it but I read that apparently Paula had a relationship with (slept with) a guy in the Top 12 (who got booted out because he forgot to tell them he'd been arrested for beating up his sister or something... Wait, why didn't Scott get booted out this season? Grrr. Anyway) of season 2. Gave him tips, favored him, etc.


in completely unrelated news, the guy is writing a book, that he hopes to release soon... :rolleyes:

[Jenny]

haha Yeah

[bachviet]

in completely unrelated news, the guy is writing a book, that he hopes to release soon... :rolleyes:
I hope he has some pics 'cauze this book is worthless without pics. :hihi:

[RIVERWIDOW]

.....and let the conspiracy theories begin.
Anyone who saw the ABC special "Fallen Idol" would know what I mean. Feel free to comment on this if you have seen it.
(This IS related to American Idol, so I'm thinking it can be discussed here).

I saw bits and pieces last night. I find Corey Clark to be pretty unbelievable.
I think he has $ signs in his eyes. He looks to be trying to get an extra 15
minutes in the sun. He just looked pathetic to me. I thought John Quinones
Looked like he wasn't believing a word this guy was saying. Having his mom and dad on didn't really fortify his story. I think it just made it look like the parents were helping to get their share. :puke: If it is true I feel sorry for Paula. i would think she would have a little better taste. :cry: I guess we will have to wait and see how it plays out. :wavey2:

[LPMiller]

I saw the whole thing, and I have to say between the phone records, the voicemail messages and the pictures of them at a club, I have to say at the very least, Paula is guilty of being one crappy judge. And I predict that while she will fill out the season, I rather doubt you'll see her next year. Because frankly, whether or not she slept with that no talent punk, she stepped way over the line.

[RIVERWIDOW]

:sing: :sing:

Final 3: Bo, Vonzell & Carrie. I would like to see either Bo or Vonzell win. I am not overly fond of Carrie which is strange because I love country. But all 3 are good so anyone would be a good choice. GO BO :)

[LPMiller]

Carrie has a nice voice, but is stiff as hell on stage. Vonzell is fun to watch, but isn't always the best singer - though I like her a lot.

Bo is great.

[nickel]

Carrie has a nice voice, but is stiff as hell on stage. Vonzell is fun to watch, but isn't always the best singer - though I like her a lot.

Bo is great.
they all have their own style, but with America voting who knows who will win.
i'd like to see Bo go all the way too. he such a nice deep voice and a killersexy smile.

[Sweetpear]

Tonights idol was great... Bo was totally awsome, the judges nailed it when they said tonight was "The Bo Show". there is no way that boys not gonna win this thing. But i must say my favorite moment in tonights show was the look of Horror on Carries face when Randy told her she can "really Blow" :laugh:

[bricheese]

Am i the only one who likes carrie and not Boe? Im bumbed shell get kicked off next and boe will win:( she reminds me of kelly clarkson!! i should be on there i wonder how far id go haha

[brainsmile]

I like Bo

[ski]

We've already had a poppy young girl and a soulful woman win, so if Bo does NOT win, that's a sign the producers don't have a hand in it. (My conspiracy theory is that they have a quota of sorts... can't have two of the same "type" of singer win consecutively, race and gender even a consideration in separation)

[zippyjuan]

Just listen to what Simon says and who he likes. That is how I knew Ruben would defeat Clay. Simon will be managing the winner and putting out his records so he probably has a big say. He owns the rights to the show too. Everything and everyone is under contract to him.

[nickel]

Just listen to what Simon says and who he likes. That is how I knew Ruben would defeat Clay. Simon will be managing the winner and putting out his records so he probably has a big say. He owns the rights to the show too. Everything and everyone is under contract to him.
are you sure? it seems the guest judge they had on last night was the record producer. he point blank told Bo they would be making records together.

and Bo all the way. i love Vonzelle too, but she is my 2nd choice.

all 3 of them will have go on to have singing careers either way.

[Cantacuzene]

If Bo wins I hope they take him to get his teeth whitened.

[nickel]

If Bo wins I hope they take him to get his teeth whitened.
yeh, i noticed that too, and i'll bet it's on the agenda. he's got a super smile despite being on the wrong end of the shade guide.

not so sure why they didn't get him a power in-office bleach job at the dentists already.

[RIVERWIDOW]

:guitar: :woohoo:

Clive Owen (guest judge) acted like Bo was the man. He is the guy who got Whitney Houston's career going . I thought Carrie's songs sucked. Bo just has the whole package, even with slightly not white teeth. He has the personality , charisma and talent to make it. As long as he doesn't slip back into old bad habits. :toxic:

[Cantacuzene]

Clive Davis you mean? There is a pretty big difference between the Clives Davis and Owen.

[RIVERWIDOW]

Clive Davis you mean? There is a pretty big difference between the Clives Davis and Owen.

You are soooo right. Major brain fart on my part. Thanks for the catch. :)

[eSDee]

Yay season over and I didn't even see one episode! :cheers:

[Devhux]

Vonzell: I simply don't care for her -- she's not as bad as Fantasia, but definately the weakest member of the 3 finalists. I will admit however, that I'm a bit biased, simply because I don't like her overall style (not much of a Whitney Houston / Mariah Carey / etc. fan).

Carrie: I don't even like the song "Crying" yet I still had chills down my spine. She nailed that one! Her rendition of "Making Love (Out of Nothing at All) was OK, but it had a bit too much Bonnie Tyler sound in it (think "Total Eclipse of the Heart"). Finally, her last performance was just........meh. Bad, bad song choice from Randy.

Bo: As stated above, Simon had it right when he declared this the Bo Show. The main highlight was his decision to sing a cappella for the 2nd number, and he just amazed me. Risky move on his part, but well worth it. I loved Simon's remark though ("I think you've just put 34 musicians out of business).

[RIVERWIDOW]

:sing: Final 2 Bo and Carrie. After Bo sang acappella (is that spelled right?) last night I don't see how Carrie will beat him. I think he has the purest' true voice in the competition. 1 week left. We will see then how the cards fall.
Good luck Bo :woohoo:

[nickel]

if wanna hear it again, here it is: a cappella Bo (http://www.sphexi.com/files/bo1.mpg) :)

[MJordanash]

:sing: Final 2 Bo and Carrie. After Bo sang acappella (is that spelled right?) last night I don't see how Carrie will beat him. I think he has the purest' true voice in the competition. 1 week left. We will see then how the cards fall.
Good luck Bo :woohoo:
I agree that Bo is going to win. Although, Carrie fits more of the profile appearance wise as to who American Idol is looking for.