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bachviet
04-29-2005, 07:51 AM
Duo arrested after claiming buried cash

Men said rare bills were found in back yard

Timothy Crebase, front, on Wednesday holds a sample of some of the vintage bills he and friend Barry Billcliff, right, told the media they found at the house of Kevin Kozak, left. On Friday, police arrested Crebase and Billcliff.

The Associated Press
Updated: 9:19 a.m. ET April 29, 2005

METHUEN, Mass. - Two men who claimed in numerous national television interviews that they found buried treasure in the back yard of a home were arrested early Friday after being questioned by police, who said the money was stolen.

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Investigators believe Barry Billcliff, 27, of Manchester, N.H., and Timothy Crebase, 22, of Methuen, Mass., found the old bank notes and bills while doing roofing work.

Both men were charged with receiving stolen property, conspiracy and accessory after the fact, Lt. Kevin Martin said. They were to be arraigned Friday morning.

Crebase told investigators the men found the money in the gutter of a barn they were hired to repair, police said.

Anonymous tip
“We got an anonymous tip two days ago,” Capt. Kris McCarthy told the Eagle-Tribune newspaper of Lawrence. “These guys are roofers. They found the money on the job site. They story after that was all made up.”

The men said they found 1,800 bank notes and bills dating between 1899 and 1928 while digging in the yard of the house of a friend, Kevin Kozak.

The materials had a face value of about $7,000. Domenic Mangano, owner of the Village Coin Shop in Plaistow, N.H., examined the find and estimated its value between $50,000 and $75,000.

The men’s stories, though, attracted suspicion because of discrepancies. The depth of the buried crate, for example, ranged from 9 inches to 2 feet.

The men also gave conflicting reasons for digging in the back yard. They told one reporter they were preparing to plant a tree. In other reports, they said they were trying to remove a small tree or dig up the roots of a shrub that was damaging the home’s foundation.

The men made several appearances on national television this week, but police noticed details of the story changed with each appearance.

Fame led to downfall?
Police Chief Joseph Solomon told ABC’s “Good Morning America” that authorities might never have suspected anything had the men not sought publicity.

“Sometimes wanting to be famous is really the downfall of people,” Solomon said.

Billcliff insisted the discrepancies could be explained.

“It’s like watching a car accident,” he told the Eagle-Tribune newspaper. “Sometimes someone will say something and someone else will say something slightly different, but mostly it’s the same.”

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These two are just dumb. :disa:

TofuNinja
04-29-2005, 08:04 AM
sucks to be them....

speedracer120
04-29-2005, 08:40 AM
Retards.

BrewMaster
04-29-2005, 08:42 AM
looking at the picture, this is not really surprising.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/050429/050429_treasure_vmed_530a.vmedium.jpg

cadetevon
04-29-2005, 09:19 AM
What total bone heads. :disa:

RIVERWIDOW
04-29-2005, 09:19 AM
[QUOTE=BrewMaster]looking at the picture, this is not really surprising.


The one holding the money looks like a real rocket scientist. People are so
stuP :cheers: id when it come to" ill gotten gains" (Hawkeye Pierce M*A*S*H*)

Gothic Girl
04-29-2005, 09:28 AM
How funny. First the Wendy's finger lady was lying, now this. Just goes to show you DON'T LIE! Morons.

gugnheim
04-29-2005, 09:31 AM
Ahhh..as I have said many times, if criminals were actually smart, my job would be so much harder....

Gug

molecularfire
04-29-2005, 09:53 AM
Yeah, it's not so much an issue of don't lie, it's don't lie badly.

cheapie
04-29-2005, 10:16 AM
ok. help me out here. who's money was it and even if they found it in the yard of a house they were working on why would they be allowed to keep it?

bachviet
04-29-2005, 10:27 AM
ok. help me out here. who's money was it and even if they found it in the yard of a house they were working on why would they be allowed to keep it?
I think the $$$ still belongs to the home owner. It's like you walk into someone's home and walk out with the TV without permission. :P

Merlin
04-29-2005, 10:28 AM
I'm having a hard time figuring out what they did wrong. Is someone claiming that they stole the money from them?

It does seem odd that they found it on someone else's property and were allowed to keep it - which must be the case since they were not charged with theft? I'm confused.


And as for the don't lie crowd...If I found a stash of money I'm sure I'd have fun telling all sorts of stories about it. In the end it is nobody's business but my own. And tellin' tall tales is not a crime.

cheapie
04-29-2005, 10:30 AM
:stupid: the article doesn't state whether or not the stole it from the house or what. and why it mattered that they lied.

speedracer120
04-29-2005, 10:40 AM
Isn't it the law that basically if no one claims the money with proof within 6 months time or so, that the money becomes theirs anyways?

cheapie
04-29-2005, 10:45 AM
not if they admit to digging it out of someone's yard!

speedracer120
04-29-2005, 10:54 AM
Isn't that a question left for lawyers to argue? Considering they had possession, but it was on the land of another person.

Bah, I don't need to argue about this, because what they did was stupid either way. But it does make for an interesting little conundrum.

cheapie
04-29-2005, 10:59 AM
not really. the ground is as much the owners property as the house. you can't steal a truck just because it's not in the house or garage, and you can't steal stuff that's in the ground.

Merlin
04-29-2005, 11:09 AM
Right, but they are not being charged with theft. They are being charged with receiving stolen property (which they probably did), conspiracy (whatever the hell this trumped up catchall charge is supposed to mean) and accessory after the fact (don't really know what this means)

molecularfire
04-29-2005, 11:52 AM
From what I've heard in the news on TV they basically found it while they were cleaning someone's gutters and then lied and said that they found it in their backyard when they were digging up their yard for some reason (that was one of the parts of their story that they couldn't keep straight).

ShawnLee
04-30-2005, 08:02 PM
I like what the cop said, "If they just went to New York and sold it quietly, no one would've known."

BigJon
04-30-2005, 08:08 PM
From what I've heard...first they found it buried in the backyard. Then in the gutters in an old can....but police think it was in the old barn.