3rd Grader sticks 19 students with needle!

[Showtime]

WTH! :disa: :disa: :disa:

PHILADELPHIA, Pennsylvania (AP) -- A third-grader stuck 19 schoolmates with her mother's diabetes blood-testing needle this week, and one pricked student tested positive for HIV on a preliminary test, officials said.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/04/29/needle.stick.ap/index.html

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[BrewMaster]

dang. you would think that after 1 or 2 got stuck that there owuld be enough screaming and crying that the school would be able to stop it.

[Gothic Girl]

Well, at least there's light at the end of the tunnel if the chances of getting infected with HIV by a needle stick are 1 in 300.

[Houdini]

If it truly is a "diabetes testing needle" the chance of cross infection with HIV is much lower, as the needles are solid and do not remove much blood and tissue. If it were an open-bore (hollow) needle, such as one used for injecting insulin, the chance would be much higher, but still not as high as the chance of getting hepatitis.

[bachviet]

What is the world is wrong with kids nowaday? :2far: The mother should have kept the needles away from the kid.

[InfiniteNothing]

Don't you need one kid to be HIV positive to infect any there after? I wonder how probable it is that any of those kids were HIV + to begin with.

[ialsohaveadream]

Don't you need one kid to be HIV positive to infect any there after? I wonder how probable it is that any of those kids were HIV + to begin with.
That's what I was thinking. Even if the diabetic mother was HIV positive, what are the odds that a kid took a used needle with enough of his mom's blood on it to infect other kids? I'm guessing the HIV test was a false positive.

[Houdini]

That's what I was thinking. Even if the diabetic mother was HIV positive, what are the odds that a kid took a used needle with enough of his mom's blood on it to infect other kids? I'm guessing the HIV test was a false positive.

That's true. It probably was a false positive. But plenty of kids have HIV. Again, Hep B is much more contagious than HIV.

[InfiniteNothing]

Just wondering but how do lots of kids have HIV?

[GracieBayb]

of f*ck... that sucks man, if i was the infected kid's parents, i would be devastated... that's so sad! :(

[ialsohaveadream]

Just wondering but how do lots of kids have HIV?
I know an 8 year old with HIV. I think she got it from breast-feeding from her HIV-infected mother (her mom was unaware she had it).

[InfiniteNothing]

I know an 8 year old with HIV. I think she got it from breast-feeding from her HIV-infected mother (her mom was unaware she had it).
Oh man. That sucks.

[Houdini]

of f*ck... that sucks man, if i was the infected kid's parents, i would be devastated... that's so sad! :(

If the incident happened this week, there is absolutely no way that someone would test positive from a new infection this early with the routine "preliminary" tests. The tests were probably ordered as a baseline to determine if anyone becomes positive in the next several months. If he's already testing positive, he had it before this attack. I'm more concerned for the other kids that were stuck after the positive kid. The screening test tests for the antibodies to the virus, which don't appear for months.

In theory, another type of extremely sensitive viral test (PCR for HIV RNA) could be used, but even it would not likely be positive this early.

[nickel]

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[Houdini]

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[Jane83]

yea i heard about this on frosty heidi and frank today...
weird kids

[cheapchinese]

i see someone here is also a KLSX fan :)

[molecularfire]

Just wondering but how do lots of kids have HIV?
Most HIV+ kids nowadays probalby got it from mom who had the kid while she was HIV+. Don't quote me on the exact number but I think even with C-section and AZT the odds of a kid of a HIV+ mom getting being HIV+ is still around 8 percent or so.

And then of course there are sexual abuse, kids getting poked by their parent's used needles (although more likely with drug abuse than with diabetes), blood transfusions (not very likely anymore), etc...

[TofuNinja]

man just the fact that I hate needles... and ACK!! this story has all kinds of Nastiness in it.... shiver....

[welfareloser]

i was just wondering how the f*** a kid sticks NINETEEN kids before someone tells a teacher and the needle gets taken away... voiced this to prm and his instant response was "that's because you didn't go to public school." apparently, if a kid is crazy enough, you just try not to make eye contact and hope they leave you alone soon...

and AIDS is such a hot-button issue that this will never happen, but all kids ought to be tested for it before going to school, just like they all have to have proof of immunization. *sigh* a friend of mine went to a small, rich-kid high school in the bible belt, whith 6 pregnancies in a class of 100 (which was more than in my gheto high school with 4x the kids), and 2 *confirmed* cases of HIV... and that was with most of em not getting tested, becasue all the parents were in denial... my friend tried to be an activist and have an aids awareness assembly, and whoa mama did that get shut down quick... she almost wasn't allowed to graduate for using the word "condom." she was "escorted" off the stage :eek:

and unfortunately, a lot of kids who escape hiv at birth acqurie it later from an irresponsible parent... a pic that haunts me, from some magazine, is a crackhead mom dying of aids - lesions, bleeding gums - brushing her daughters teeth with her (the mom's) toothbrush...

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